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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
June 10 2011 07:15 GMT
#1101
I think it was commonly agreed that the mafia shot GGQ twice.

Also, good game iGrok and no offense but thank god you're out or day 3 would have just been igrok this, igrok that.
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 10 2011 07:42 GMT
#1102
Yup if by now no one has come forward they shot him twice.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#1103
On June 10 2011 13:49 Senj wrote:
Wow. I couldn't have been more wrong about anyone this game.


wrong about whom?
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
June 10 2011 08:23 GMT
#1104
On June 10 2011 16:44 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 13:49 Senj wrote:
Wow. I couldn't have been more wrong about anyone this game.


wrong about whom?

I presume he's talking about this

On June 10 2011 12:33 Senj wrote:
Time's running out and my prime suspect looks like he's about to get himself mod-killed. I'd rather not waste my vote on Jimbooo.

My vote is going towards amazingxkcd. His day 1 activity, especially the first post and then several after attacking others for making fluff first posts are my basis here.



Btw, I thought that this would be interesting, iGroks Do-Not-Lynch List.
On June 07 2011 03:08 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:56 Alderan wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.

First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.



I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before?


Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:
Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going.

Amazingxkcd

I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis.

Let's look at his posts.



It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it


This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”.

When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:

interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.



Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town.

In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:


Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.

For town: aidnai, GMarshal

For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13

LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide


So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting.







On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.

@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.


You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town.

@iGrok and @Jackal58;

I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58.

About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion.



Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day.
He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not.
He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.

Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense.

Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/



But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader?

Yeah. Here's my "Don't Lynch" list (in no particular order):

Me ^^
Jackal58
Vain
GGQ
Kurumi
Treadmill
35spike1
CrJninja
Xedat
aprudds

Actually, looking back, I'm going to put my vote on Drazerk, for twice voting without saying shit. (He might've posted once or twice, but absolutely no substance, only bandwagonning).

And his reasoning was
On June 07 2011 03:26 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 03:11 Kurumi wrote:
On June 07 2011 03:08 iGrok wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:56 Alderan wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.

First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.



I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before?


Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:
Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going.

Amazingxkcd

I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis.

Let's look at his posts.



It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it


This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”.

When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:

interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.



Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town.

In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:


Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.

For town: aidnai, GMarshal

For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13

LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide


So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting.







On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.

@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.


You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town.

@iGrok and @Jackal58;

I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58.

About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion.



Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day.
He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not.
He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.

Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense.

Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/



But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader?

Yeah. Here's my "Don't Lynch" list (in no particular order):

Me ^^
Jackal58
Vain
GGQ
Kurumi
Treadmill
35spike1
CrJninja
Xedat
aprudds

Actually, looking back, I'm going to put my vote on Drazerk, for twice voting without saying shit. (He might've posted once or twice, but absolutely no substance, only bandwagonning).

That's pretty big list. Care to explain why those people shouldn't be lynched?


Me: I'm Town.
Jackal, Vain, GGQ: I want to know who among you is also town.
Kurumi: I don't know what to think about him, but I want to know more. As the game progresses he's gotten better imo, so I'm waiting to see how he turns out.
Treadmill, 35spike1, CrJNinja, Xedat, aprudds: Hes not afraid to say what he thinks, and did some decent analysis.

These people should be watched closely, I myself am still keeping an eye on Treadmill.
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 10 2011 08:41 GMT
#1105
Given that the vote for iGrok was so close, if we give the mafia the benefit of the doubt that they aren't stupid and wouldn't kill off their GF if they didn't have to, I think it's safe to say that all the people who voted for iGrok are town-aligned.

Pyo, Gtrsrs, Sprungjeezy, Kurumi, Supersoft, CjrNinja, omgCRAZY, Xedat, Kairo, monsterDrakar, TranceStorm, Drazerk, freeloader625


I'm working on going post by post for the remaining players:

Munk-E, Senj, Cherubael, Blackone, Treadmill, grush57, Impervious, Alderan, 35spike1, TheAwesomeAll, Aprudds, Vain, Aril, teamsolid, Heist, Jackal58


for now, i'll just post about out Cherubael, who appears very scummy:
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1 - freeloader
Day 2 - amazingxkcd

agrees with accusation of freeloader

again agreeing with accusation of freeloader

further aggression against freeloader; aggression toward Aril when he defends freeloader

aggression against 35spike

says case against xkcd is stronger than case against iGrok; aggression against supersoft; apologizes for inactivity


Basically he is throwing out a lot of aggression/accusation in all of his posts but doesn't really commit to any of it. He also declares case against xkcd to be stronger than against iGrok without really saying why. Although there aren't really any obvious contradictions in his posting/voting, he is acting quite suspicious.
Kairo
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden184 Posts
June 10 2011 09:01 GMT
#1106
People that voted xkcd
+ Show Spoiler +

amazingxkcd 12
Treadmill
grush57
Impervious
cherubael
Alderan
35spike1
TheAwesomeAll
blackone
aprudds
iGrok
Munk-E
Senj

iGroks list:
+ Show Spoiler +

Yeah. Here's my "Don't Lynch" list (in no particular order):

Me ^^
Jackal58
Vain
GGQ
Kurumi
Treadmill
35spike1
CrJninja
Xedat
aprudds


People on both lists:
iGrok
Treadmill
35spike1
aprudds

Just throwing it out there...
Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. Off she rode with a trumpety trump; trump trump trump.<- Sig since before the Don.
Kairo
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden184 Posts
June 10 2011 09:06 GMT
#1107
EBWOP

Since people somtimes just skim the thread, what i mean is that
vote for xkcd (instead of mafia GF) + iGroks "dont lynch list" = Very very suspicious people.

Treadmill
35spike1
aprudds

What do all you guys think about this?

Is iGrok trixing with us?
Was he counting on staying undercover until late game?
Was he trying to get town-cred?
Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. Off she rode with a trumpety trump; trump trump trump.<- Sig since before the Don.
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#1108
Okay, it might just be my opinion but your posts are directly influencing mafia htis. What if mafi awanted to kill 35spike1 or apprudds (I don't think they will hit Treadmill as he is under suspicion).
Please save your critical posts that could influence mafia.

Also, we should go over amazingxkcd's post and also check who were the people that awnted him lynched the most.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#1109
Lulz.
Life can only kill you once.
freeloader625
Profile Joined May 2010
United States180 Posts
June 10 2011 09:38 GMT
#1110
I agree. Unless you think you are a prime target for a hit, please refrain from posting during night. This is night time.
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 10 2011 09:56 GMT
#1111
What do you mean by that jackal58?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 09:57 GMT
#1112
i will burst out all my thoughts a second before the night finishes.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 10 2011 09:59 GMT
#1113
On June 08 2011 15:11 heist wrote:
Let's assume iGrok is gf.

So you're saying that on the very first night, the mafia kills off deMorcef (definitely a pro-town vibe poster) primarily because he has consistently sided with iGrok? Keeping the people who believe in iGrok alive seems much more sensible than killing one off just to provide some "cred". I'm really doubting iGrok is gf if we have to assume the mafia killed off a consistent town supporter of the gf.


Just came across this post by heist. I don't know if he made it just to contradict me (from his posting, it's clear he doesn't like me very much), but I find this interesting, because iGrok getting flipped GF means that this is exactly what the mafia did.

Not saying that heist is scum, but he definitely was very quick to defend iGrok.

He was also among the first (but not the first) to really draw attention to xkcd.

here is his full post history:

+ Show Spoiler +

day 1 - amazingxkcd
day 2 - Jimbooo

thinks freeloader's last two posts were suspicious

confusion about rolecounts

confusion cleared up

justifies making an inactives list

diverts attention away from iGrok toward grush57; analyzes grush's posting history to be mostly one-liners

advises people who voted for freeloader to reconsider; pushes going after lurkers; says grush, supersoft, lafali, amazingxkcd, and gtrsrs are suspicious. Says there are two strategies for how town should vote day 1 - doesn't make much sense

posts vote counts and wants to know why people voted for monstrerDrakar and Drazerk

criticizes supersoft's arbitrary vote. wants to get supersoft's read on the other person who voted monsterDrakar (Xedat)

"mafia will do whatever it takes to seem like a townie"

bad formatting making a quoted post look like his own; admonishing xkcd for being defensive and casting suspicioun on everyone and bandwagoning drazerk; says xkcd and rookie have similar chances of being scum

clarifies formating from previous post

really doesn't want people voting freeloader; really going after xkcd

noticed lafali unvoting freeloader after bandwagon started to change; noticed jimbooo did the same thing; accuses jimbooo, suggests killing xkcd as well.

declares that he's gunning for jimbooo

his expreience

defense that iGrok can't be GF because mafia wouldn't kill off a townie supporter of the GF (ignores the fact that iGrok had heat on him, so it was perfectly reasonable to try to establish cred)

says person who was hit should acknowledge that they were hit and survived.

long defense of iGrok. Seems like he's going really far out of his way to defend him.

it's clear heist really doesn't like me.

says kurumi is probably town given that xkcd flipped blue


I'd like to say that he is scum, but it might simply be that he doesn't like me very much - it's hard for me to know that my judgement isn't clouded by personal bias.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 10 2011 10:01 GMT
#1114
On June 10 2011 18:13 Xedat wrote:
Okay, it might just be my opinion but your posts are directly influencing mafia htis. What if mafi awanted to kill 35spike1 or apprudds (I don't think they will hit Treadmill as he is under suspicion).
Please save your critical posts that could influence mafia.

Also, we should go over amazingxkcd's post and also check who were the people that awnted him lynched the most.


oops, didn't see this. oh well, I guess I'll wait till the end of the night to post the rest of my analyses.

I will add, however, that we should also look at those who quick to defend or divert attention away from iGrok.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#1115
You morons. You lynched the guy WHO DEFENDED himself and left the guy who said "fuck You" and went afk. Your IQ is smaller than cabbage with EHEC. Congrats on lynching blues,There's Vigi time now. Shoot grush57,Treadmill and Jackal/iGrok depending on Your read. Treadmill's flip will give A LOT of info while grush is "lol I am scum that's why I don't ever say anything".
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 10 2011 10:34 GMT
#1116
On June 10 2011 13:19 Treadmill wrote:
Well hell. And I thought it was a pretty open and shut case. Dammit. I know this'll put suspicion on me from some people, my credibility is certainly shot. I really don't have anything to say except that I honestly thought he was red.

One thing is Kurumi comes out of this smelling like a rose. At least, xkcd definitely checked up on him last night and he definitely showed town. Could be gf, maybe, but I somewhat doubt it.

Gonna have to do some thinking tonight. Hrrrm.

You and Your scum buddy iGrok made the same move on rookie44 lynch,the difference is:
I am Town.
You are freaking scum.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 10 2011 10:37 GMT
#1117
Oh,we got iGrok lynch anyways,cool. Then probably Treadmill was being framed,but I will still have an eye on him.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 10 2011 10:43 GMT
#1118
Sorry for all of this,at school I was only searching for lynch post and did not see the "correct' one. I think it would be unbalanced to give Jackal and iGrok on one team, so lets assume Jackal is town for now. I'd like You to keep looking on gtrsrs too. Treadmill was the guy who defended/was with iGrok,while gtrsrs was hardcore on iGrok's case. Gtrsrs could've setting a late bus for town cred, while Treadmill could be just a noobie townie supporting him being framed. Since Treadmill's flip won't be as good as it would without iGrok flip I strongly suggest to shoot of grush57 and Jimbooo(?) Drazerk was one of those crazy "I JUMP BANDWAGON LOL" people, right? He might deserve a shot too. Still, if You're a vigi and there's someone suspicious to You and You feel like You might be doing a right thing,do it. Just don't do things like VisceraEyes in PTP. He killed Goddam Batman.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 10 2011 11:01 GMT
#1119
On June 10 2011 19:43 Kurumi wrote:
Sorry for all of this,at school I was only searching for lynch post and did not see the "correct' one. I think it would be unbalanced to give Jackal and iGrok on one team, so lets assume Jackal is town for now. I'd like You to keep looking on gtrsrs too. Treadmill was the guy who defended/was with iGrok,while gtrsrs was hardcore on iGrok's case. Gtrsrs could've setting a late bus for town cred, while Treadmill could be just a noobie townie supporting him being framed. Since Treadmill's flip won't be as good as it would without iGrok flip I strongly suggest to shoot of grush57 and Jimbooo(?) Drazerk was one of those crazy "I JUMP BANDWAGON LOL" people, right? He might deserve a shot too. Still, if You're a vigi and there's someone suspicious to You and You feel like You might be doing a right thing,do it. Just don't do things like VisceraEyes in PTP. He killed Goddam Batman.



i really hope you're never a vigi in any mafia i play. You really are insane (and incoherent). Given that town is "winning" right now (3 mafia including the GF are dead, while up to 8 townies will be dead at the end of the night), we can afford to wait on using our vigis (assuming there even are vigis) - especially considering it's better to kill no one than to kill a townie.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 10 2011 11:14 GMT
#1120
Well, it seems i died...

GL HF all, and don't forget, XKCD FIGHTING!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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