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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 06 2011 15:15 GMT
#441
ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHH Don't edit Your posts! You can even quadruple post here. I just posted the thing iGrok wanted,that's a lot of non-voting people,but keep in mind that some of them actually posted a bit.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
June 06 2011 15:17 GMT
#442
Also, I think it would be prudent to force gtrsrs and Pyo to post their analysis of each other - it seems that Pyo quickly backed up gtrsrs's initial arguments (which are rather flimsy in my opinion). In that case, I think its reasonable to say that he gets an innocent feel on gtrsrs. Force him to give his reasons why rather than reasserting gtrsrs's arguments.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 06 2011 15:17 GMT
#443
Oh I just remembered that Meapak said that there's no smurfing at all,my bad. Just drop that,I misunderstood Jackal. While gtrsrs case is interesting,Treadmill posted a lot of fluff posts and I will need to go through them too.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 06 2011 15:17 GMT
#444
Kursiv are the guys that voted but then unvoted and have not voted again.

Non voters:
1. Munk-E
2. blackone
4. amazingxkcd
11. Jimbooo
13. Lafali

16. Heist
20. TheAwesomeAll
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
28. Senj
29. DeMorcerf
30. Vain
32. Jackal58
33. Clicker
37. iGrok
38. tdAdonis
39. aprudds
40. GGQ
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 15:18 GMT
#445
On June 07 2011 00:15 Kurumi wrote:
ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHH Don't edit Your posts! You can even quadruple post here. I just posted the thing iGrok wanted,that's a lot of non-voting people,but keep in mind that some of them actually posted a bit.

O shit sorry forgot, I was just putting in something rather than making a new post cause thats what I'm used to doing across the rest of TL.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#446
On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:
Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going.

Amazingxkcd

I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis.

Let's look at his posts.



It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it


This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”.

When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:

interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.



Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town.

In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:


Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.

For town: aidnai, GMarshal

For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13 

LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide


So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting.







Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.

@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.


You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town.

@iGrok and @Jackal58;

I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58.

About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion.



Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day.
He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not.
He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.
Life can only kill you once.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#447
Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 06 2011 15:20 GMT
#448
On June 07 2011 00:17 Xedat wrote:
Kursiv are the guys that voted but then unvoted and have not voted again.

Non voters:
1. Munk-E
2. blackone
4. amazingxkcd
11. Jimbooo
13. Lafali

16. Heist
20. TheAwesomeAll
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
28. Senj
29. DeMorcerf
30. Vain
32. Jackal58
33. Clicker
37. iGrok
38. tdAdonis
39. aprudds
40. GGQ


Are you trying to say that this list are people who attempted to vote yet, cause the wording of your statement is quite ambiguous. I will vote when i have determined who is the most likely candidate, but i have never voted yet from what i have understood your post as.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#449
On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:
Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going.

Amazingxkcd

I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis.

Let's look at his posts.



It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it


This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”.

When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:

interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.



Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town.

In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:


Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.

For town: aidnai, GMarshal

For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13 

LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide


So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting.







On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.

@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.


You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town.

@iGrok and @Jackal58;

I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58.

About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion.



Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day.
He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not.
He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.


Thank you for your clarification.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#450
I have one favour to ask of you:
Some people are cluttering the thread, an example would be the exchange between jackal and kurumi, I wrote some unnecessary one liners too.
Lets reduce our posting to helpful deiscussion.
kurumi: Come back with an analysis of gtrsr or tell us more in depth why lafali is scummy in your opinion.

jackal58:Make an analysis of kurumi or let him write a real post before attacking him again.

I think we need to stop cluttering the thread.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
June 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#451
On June 07 2011 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night.

I think it ends based on EST which means that we still have another 12(13?) hours to go.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#452
On June 07 2011 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night.

I believe we have another 12 hours.
When does Day 1 end?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 06 2011 15:23 GMT
#453
On June 07 2011 00:21 Xedat wrote:
I have one favour to ask of you:
Some people are cluttering the thread, an example would be the exchange between jackal and kurumi, I wrote some unnecessary one liners too.
Lets reduce our posting to helpful deiscussion.
kurumi: Come back with an analysis of gtrsr or tell us more in depth why lafali is scummy in your opinion.

jackal58:Make an analysis of kurumi or let him write a real post before attacking him again.

I think we need to stop cluttering the thread.

How many years would you like me to wait for his answer?
Life can only kill you once.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 15:24 GMT
#454
On June 07 2011 00:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night.

I believe we have another 12 hours.
When does Day 1 end?


Ye, the day ends at 13:00 Korean time and its now 00:23? I think?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 06 2011 15:25 GMT
#455
On June 07 2011 00:12 Benjef wrote:
Why would a smurf have two 1500+ post accounts? He just asked you a question based on your reply to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:12 Kurumi wrote:
On June 07 2011 00:09 iGrok wrote:
Hey Xedat, can you add non-voters to your list please?

Munk-E
Blackone
amazingxkcd
TheKK
TranceStorm
Sprungjeezy
freeloader625
TheAwesomeAll
rookie44
Date_Reaper
CjrNinja
Senj
DeMorcerf
Vain
Jackal58
Clicker
iGrok
tdAdonis
aprudds
GGQ


Some of those people may just plain be inactive due to have being at the MLG event?



You edited. The cardinal sin.

I'm willing to back up that the bolded part above is the only change since he first posted though.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 06 2011 15:27 GMT
#456
We have another 12.5 Hours
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
June 06 2011 15:28 GMT
#457
I have been getting a scum vibe from Kurumi and I really think we need to get some "good" discussion going.

Defends freeloader - easy townie rep without missing out on possible lycnh (there was no way this would go through regardless)
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2011 18:03 Kurumi wrote:
Freeloader tries to justify SC2 Mafia as real Mafia experience,I'd go with noobtown,yeah.
Now lets sniff for potential bandwagoners...


Treadmill says to keep watching freeloader and says something stupid and gets a vote from Kurumi in hopes of a counterbandwagon
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2011 18:07 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:47 Treadmill wrote:
It is a good spot, aprudds. We should keep an eye on freeloader625.

Jimbooo, we do have to lynch somebody. Being "hasty" isn't really a concern. And somebody with next to no evidence against them is a better lynch than everyone else with no evidence against them at all. Still, 48 hours yet.

What? Bad lynches are good lynches? Are You a stupid Rat or You're a Noobtown? Lynch is the most IMPORTANT tool town gets.
##vote Treadmill


*Kurumi votes Treadmill 18:07] then 10 mins later changes to Lafali 18:17 posts this between the 2*
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2011 18:11 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:12 Lafali wrote:
Good catch by aprudds. A townie wouldn't need to know that information. However, he could be new. There are 40 people in this game though, so its not like its mylo.

My God,so many Rats running between my legs! No,we can't lynch the guy because of one thing.
We should be suspicious WHY the bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence. It is not mylo,but we must use lynch to it's best.

Notice the "bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence". Irony in the reason for changing his vote (even more so for the reasoning for his first vote).

Here he
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2011 18:23 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:21 iGrok wrote:
On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote:
With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.

What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes.


His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours.

Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him.

The more that you yell,
The more attention you get.
Keep up the noise, Joe


[/sarcasm]

Even if you are town, and its too early to throw accusations out, you're playing TERRIBLY anti-town. Again, Chill.

Because I draw discussion from terrible freeloader bandwagon? I don't throw accusations out,they've slipped already. Treadmill and Lafali both advocate mislynches and not thinking before lynching. They hopped on bandwagon and they will.


He is angry that Treadmill and Lafali vote for lynching so easily, but he himself has voted several times.

I go on to post that he has been reading too far into things, he says it is what a good townie does. And says the Scum want tonwies to jump on band wagons. But I feel that it is incredibly distracting and scummy to throw around votes and accusations without any solid discussion. Unless others agree with me I'm not even going to bother to vote just yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:28 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Kurumi, you come off as a towny that is reading too far into too little. It's important to remember that this game is full of beginners and important to remember people will try to take advantage of that, but people will still make mistakes such as hopping on a bandwagon without really thinking into it.

Time for bed for me though. Cya tomorrow.

No. Scum wants Town to mislynch. Scum wants Town not to think about other suspects. Scum wants to make Town jump on one bandwagon and deny EVERY discussion about anything else. They are doing that,not only but they're advocating that as a good thing.
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
June 06 2011 15:28 GMT
#458
@jackal:
I also think that kurumi is extremely unhelpful.
But right now your allegations are just cluttering the thread. We know that you think kurumi is scummy and that he should respond with a real post. I also think that. Still, give him some time.
I cannot make you wait, but your impatience is not helping.

Make a case against him or wait for him to provide some useful stuff.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 15:28 GMT
#459
On June 07 2011 00:25 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:12 Benjef wrote:
Why would a smurf have two 1500+ post accounts? He just asked you a question based on your reply to me.

On June 07 2011 00:12 Kurumi wrote:
On June 07 2011 00:09 iGrok wrote:
Hey Xedat, can you add non-voters to your list please?

Munk-E
Blackone
amazingxkcd
TheKK
TranceStorm
Sprungjeezy
freeloader625
TheAwesomeAll
rookie44
Date_Reaper
CjrNinja
Senj
DeMorcerf
Vain
Jackal58
Clicker
iGrok
tdAdonis
aprudds
GGQ


Some of those people may just plain be inactive due to have being at the MLG event?



You edited. The cardinal sin.

I'm willing to back up that the bolded part above is the only change since he first posted though.


I know ><. I forgot, this is my first game, I'm just used to editing posts to add things in rather than making a new post across the whole of TL. The part you bolded was in my first post then I edited in the quote and my question below it.
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Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
June 06 2011 15:29 GMT
#460
I apologize for the sloppy editing - long spoilers make the post all ugly, but most of the post is comprehensible.
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