Listen up bitches.
The bro's guide to night 1, tl;dr version.
Table of contents:
1. Varpulis is scum
2. Why Bumatlarge should kill Varpulis
3. Chaos13 is scum
4. Why node needs to be checked.
5. Why tnkted needs to be checked.
6. Mataza: the road to insanity
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1. Varpulis is scum
Allright, let's do this. Varpulis didn't have the best start of the game, me being awesome led to me creating a comprehensive analysis of him.
Here's a link to it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9490283
But of course the bitch tried to fix his shit, so let's have a look at what he got going now. Also, note that he has almost as many posts before my analysis and after it, even though much more time passed.
He has a lot of posts (can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Varpulis&gb=date ) but almost none of it got any content. I aint gonna be taking spam for contribution. That just aint how things work around here bro.
Here are some examples of his posting.
On May 31 2011 09:11 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:06 tnkted wrote:On May 31 2011 08:56 bumatlarge wrote:On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! Lol, ok, fair enough. I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this: If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims. However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely. For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim. tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be. We're not allowed to claim what role we picked & who we picked it for until day 2, the host said. We can check RedFF's role easily though, by asking Amber. Unless they're both mafia, it'll be accurate. Amber, is RedFF pming you?
Not contributing.
On May 31 2011 09:48 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? Who is this Vamp person and why is everybody voting for him? On-topic, I think that we should wait a day or two before lynching our communal pet. He most likely has a night ability, so we might as well keep him around. We shouldn't be discussing just me and tnkted. There are other players too! Cthsazsa, what do you think of the current situation, apart from RedFF & amber?
More questions, not contributing.
On May 31 2011 13:19 Varpulis wrote:I'm going to sleep soon, but before then, a handy list of players who aren't contributing, for later reference. - kurumi
- kenpachi
- Tackster
- Sinani206
- Torte De Lini
- Barundar
- stefftastiq
There are a bunch of people who haven't contributed much, but these guys haven't contributed at all, really. All of them need to tell us what they're thinking and why. Posting once in a while saying "i'm here" doesn't make you any more helpful. Any additions/changes to the list? I probably missed something.
Oh, thanks a bunch bro, you made a list of inactives. What an astounding contribution to the thread.
On June 01 2011 06:49 Varpulis wrote:
Claims are bad. We already discussed this, didn't we? Both sandroba's idea and mine got shot down fast because claiming plans either benefit the mafia or are too easily manipulated.
I'm back, and feeling slightly more assertive. Nobody fistbump Palmar. We still have no clue what it does, and he seems to have plenty already. Will make an actually substantial post as soon as I'm fully caught up.
Oh wait, you gonna fix your posting now bro? Why didn't you start already, instead of pointing out useless shit, not contributing and claiming you're "feeling more assertive".
Anyway, here's his claim to fame:
On June 01 2011 09:00 Varpulis wrote:scratch tnkted. Most of the "scumtells" i found were just him doing weird shit like telling people not to fistpound Palmar then doing it himself, or voting for Coag. In my searches for scummy tnkted posts, however, I found somebody worth looking at.
Rean I'm going to summarize what he's been doing in 4 words, for those of you who don't seem to like reading. blending in and lurking. He's been making posts, sure, but has yet to make any contributions of note, or any effort to do so. His constructive, useful posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 05:33 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. Oh yes, genius idea, let's tell mafia who they should shoot so they can get away with fake-claiming ANYTHING THEY CAN IMAGINE. shooting down a terrible plan, fine. + Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 06:57 Rean wrote:
Sigh. This is silly. The dog appears to be some kind of guard dog, so i'm guessing he acts like a watcher/tracker or something like that. Useful later on, a waste of time for now.
As for the LAL plan: no. You lynch people when there is a good reason to do so, not simply because you lied. There could be many reasons that town would be lying, and blindly lynching them for it is not a good idea.
The list is unneccesary. People should be capable of deciding for themself who is worth protecting or inspecting, you don't need someone holding your hand telling you what to do.
Oh, and props for whoever thought up the dog role, that's just hilarious. This is less fine. Makes assumptions, and tells us that organization is bad. The only good part in this post is the LAL opinion. + Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 22:55 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 22:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 31 2011 22:39 Rean wrote:
Voting Torte de Lini aswell. He's yet to contribute despite being asked to several times, let's put some more pressure on him. How about you start contributing as well instead of presurring someone on their first game. Lead by example I say! It's irrelevant how long they have been playing, they have to be contributing. I have been doing so this game, don't see him doing anything that's not "sup guys dont mind me im a newbie ^^". As for thoughts on other players: tnkted is indeed acting weird but it seems to be something with his role providing him protection from being lynched that triggers this behavior. Some others players (barundar/torte/kenpachi/others i cant remember atm) are lurking/being useless in general. Not good. This was his response to being called out for lurking. Claiming contributions, defending tnkted with assumptions, then listing other lurkers and saying that they're bad. Bad post, not helpful. Based off of this alone, I'd be willing to start pressuring Rean, but there's more. he decides to vote for Coag (who is not playing) because he thinks that tnkted has even more conjectured powers, and that it'd be interesting to see what happens. Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 22:48 Rean wrote:
...o_O Damn, that vote on coagulation is weird. My best guess is the vote on coagulation is just nonsense, and that his role lets him do that to hide his true vote. I'll try voting coag aswell to see what happens. Don't do this, please. Oh yeah, and this most recent string of posts discussing Kurumi's posting style. + Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote:
Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter? On June 01 2011 06:13 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote:
Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter? ebwop: i just checked the thread again, there's not a single you, your or you're that doesn't have the capital Y. That is VERY weird. I'd guess his role forces him to talk like that for some reason, but i'm not sure what that'd be :/ On June 01 2011 06:28 Rean wrote:
Okay, looking back at XXXIX it seems like he just has a bad understanding of when to use capital letters. Weird, but not scummy. Let's dismiss it for now. Waste of our time and just spamming the thread. Don't do this either. I like how he checks through the thread to see Kurumi's posting style, not to find scum. In conclusion: Rean needs to be more helpful and Pro-town. He has no excuse not to, unlike Torte(who also needs to step up his game). I'm sticking a vote on him until he does.
This analysis is weak. It's certainly valid, but really. You call that being assertive? I almost read that "In conclusion" part out loud in an old woman's voice. How about you grow some balls and fucking accuse whoever you're after. Don't be so damn passive.
I mean, I could write almost the same shit about 10 people in the thread.
He even does one of them for me:
On June 01 2011 10:18 Varpulis wrote:For good measure... Tackster I don't like people who pretend to be helpful. Tackster is doing just that. He has 3 posts. In this situation, a post-by-post analysis should suffice. Post 1: Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 06:19 Tackster wrote:Hey guys I'm up to date!! This looks likes it's going to be so unpredictable it takes weeks to come crashing down  Remember Insane 2? Think we can hit 50 pages by night 1? Anyway my 2 cents - i think revealing who we created roles for is useless. Mafia would know everyone that they created a role for and could share it in their quicktopics - we on the other hand would have no useful info to share in thread. And what's with all the Pound Fisting?? Am I the only one that finds that suspicious? Palmar wrote a command and 2 people replied - that has to be looked into... States the obvious and says what everybody else has been saying, and reminds us that he's playing. Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 06:27 Tackster wrote:Amber your role wouldnt happen to be scooby doo would it? Cos technically scooby could talk  ...*great post* /sarcasm Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 06:24 Tackster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok I need to address an accusation by Meapak and contribute more. Hello Guys!! I last posted before going to bed and 12 hours later I woke up to a pounding headache so I havent even tried checking the thread until now. After this post I will probably head back to bed as I must be coming down with something. Anyways I've been writing notes as I read so this may not all be linear but it should cover anything I found stange: The amber and redFF debate: I find it surprising that redFF would assume Amber could speak normally in PMs. The roles were decided pre alignment and I assume Amber cant PM normally nor speak to mafia in quicktopics normally if he is red. (This is an ASSUMPTION!) As this provides us with no leads and knowing roles does not hint at alignment I suggest it becomes redFFs mission to decipher Ambers talk in PMs without clogging up the thread. This way we can open an avenue of conversation with the dog that is clear and not waste peoples time with it in thread. If either is lying the other can out them, if both are lying we'll find out soon enough. Make sense? Next I had a horrid thought - what if Palmar had the role to fist pound everyone in game to win? SCARY!!! I'm annoyed many haven't voted in thread. I hope this picks up as I hate having to check the voting thread and I assume anyone not double voting (as suggested in the OP) is being sneaky! Voting in thread means being explicit too - not just saying 'i think *** may be mafia' and going off to vote. Next i came across tnkted coagulation vote. I can see how if he had to pick a random name tnkted would pick Coag but I dont think there's enough info here for strong guesses (not that it ever stops me ) I thought that maybe tomorrow we should out any roles we feel would be too strong if Mafia had them OR out any people we created a mafia sided role for without outing the role. This is just an idea and does not reflect on the role created. However townies would be interested in outing strong mafia-usable roles so i thought this may be a good plan. DISCUSS! Next: What is Amber is the mole? I remember when I red about the mole/s I thought to myself that it would be best if mafia tried to contact me ASAP so I can setup some grounds for the switch (eg. not outing my role or outing pro-town info). If Amber is the mole mafia may have told redFF to contact amber to let him know and redFF felt he had to out.. Food for thought! Then I read Zeapaks post - I hope this post if full of enough information for you. I honestly noted everything I thought relevant and through a strong migraine as well  Viscera Eyes you pounded waaaaaay to early.. I really DONT like this whole Palmar thing. IF Palmar is pro town why would he out that he has a role that scales with pounds? That sounds like someone mafia would kill just in case. If he is Mafia though he has a good reason to reveal - to get pounds from town as well as maf (otherwise mafia is self revealed as all the pounders). Also I'm thinking if Palmar says 4 is the critical point but more are better I ASSUME that theres a mathematical rule to his ability. EG. He gets to use it #pounds/2 -> so 4 pounds = 2 uses which is more realistic than 6 for 3 and more useful than 3 for 1. Just a thought. I feel Kita is under too much pressure and being BWed on d1. We dont have any real info yet only conjecture. How can Kita be under that much discussion when there's more people to check? Finally the conversation has changed to sanroba but only recently! Mataza I'm finding your comments and play style very weird. Especially: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 20:51. Posts 406
Palmar, bro, you said you need at least 4 fistpounds to get working. So cut the small talk, tell ya bros what number of fistpounds are critical, will ya?
Ya know, the last thing I wanna risk is having a bro´s ego inflated by fistpounds, making him explode or something.
No really, if ya share love ya gotta also share knowledge. Not only had Palmar already explained that more were better but mataza chooses this point to complain. Sounds like a possible mafia who doesnt want to pound. Even though he sounds friendly with Palmar. Next post is cryptic cos I don't know the meta: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 21:21. Posts 406
Dude, you are behaving a lot like last game.
First of all, there is not much of kitatrain right now.
Secondly, the "I won´t change unless you bring a solid defense" is what you did as mafia, too. Problem is, you CANNOT have a solid defense in a mafia game. Doubt is the normal state towards everyone. You might as well ask for the holy grail before the crusade even begun.
And I don´t exactly buy that more fistpounds are beneficial without any strict numbers behind it. Carrying over to the next day I could understand. Increments tied to certain numbers I could understand.
But every single fistpound being beneficial is just weird. It has to be either percentual increments or full numbers of people then.
And full numbers of people is what I greatly fear.
Last game, you broke this bros heart. This time it ain´t gonna be fixed with a fistpound and smile. Imma never trust you again. First of all I think there is a Kita Train. Secondly I think this sounds very much like a mafia justifying not pounding. Now I myself justified not pounding but only in a general 'we dont know what it does sense'. Mataza seems to trust the mechanic but not the use of it (Why more pounds? Use less for a Benefit...) Having said that this is just something I found strange NOT an all out FOS Also on the iPhone Fist Pound keeps getting corrected to Fish Pond - LOL Next Chaos13 said Im reluctant to contribute - In fact I am in a different time zone, i sleep ALOT and I am slow at reading mafia threads!! Bum pressuring a role claim on tnkted - now that I didnt like. I dont like BWs d1 and I know bum has been mentioned before but he is definitely on my 'tricksy' list. I don't see how a roleclaim d1 on someone you have no info on is beneficial to town... Lastly Kurumi posted this strange riddle job. I have to say it's been really tough to break into but I suggest someone analyze his capitalisation - it sure is strange. Ok i'm off again - chat you guys tomorrow. KISSES xx Monster post of him rambling on about theories and vague possibilities. This really says nothing at all, and just seems to be a big post for the sake of being a big post. Tackster is capable of being very active and helpful, and his lack of contributions makes me suspicious. Hence, a vote!
Yeah, it's kinda ok, but it's just too vague.
Here's Varpulis saying some more obvious shit:
On June 01 2011 12:51 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions. No. This is just a waste of time. Guess who is guilty of thread derailment? Question 2 looks like a medic looking for advice or scum wanting to know who to hit. Question 3 has been discussed to death, and questions 4-7 are moderately scummy at best. I guess you should be taking note of me now?
He also tells Mataza why his shit is all stupid a few times, which is fine, considering Mataza's shit is generally quite silly.
And finally he switches to VisEyes for very shitty reasoning:
On June 02 2011 05:43 Varpulis wrote:I'm on the fence about VisceraEyes. Either he's scum and doing a poor job of it or town and doing a terrible job of it. I'm not going to go post by post because I don't have time to make a well organized post (20 min till lynch, want to give people time to respond), but in bullet point form: - He states the obvious
- claims not to see scumtells because of meta discussion
- his scummy as all hell survey
- the vet claim after, which is just about the stupidest thing you could do as vet
- wants to lynch BC (scumtell,scumtell,scumtell,scumtell)
- claims noob to avoid confrontation
- defends his scummy survey by saying it was supposed to be scummy
There may be more, but I'm in a hurry. Thoughts? At this point, he seems more scummy to me than Tackster, if Tackster agrees to step it up if we don't lynch him.
Don't let this guy get away guys. He's still the most scummy person we got in this town.
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2. Why Bumatlarge should shoot Varpulis
How cool is it to outsource the problems bros! Fuck yeah let's do it. We aint got no proof that Bumatlarge isn't some damn mafia scum, so I wanna roll with him shooting Varpulis. Varpulis is at best a really bad and useless townie (although jackal58 is kinda right about no townie being useless), but I doubt him, he's a bitch, a non-baller and a scum.
So let's get Bumatlarge to work against his will:
On June 02 2011 06:52 bumatlarge wrote:
Get 8 people to say Kill: chaose13, then I will.
This means he DOESN'T want to kill chaos, he knows I won't get the support fast enough, clever bro. He also seems to have no problem killing Mataza.
Show your support to this idea using this:
Bumatlarge: Kill Varpulis
And don't worry about Bum, other assassins will take care of that bro. But we must get him to pound Varpulis's face into the ground to prove he's not scum himself.
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3. Why Chaos13 is scum
Here's the thing, I started thinking chaos13 was a cool bro, worthy of keeping around because he made sound calls like this:
On May 31 2011 05:31 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. 1. This will not help us clear up confusion 2. Even role claims will not prove alignment. Roles were picked before alignments were known. This game will have to be won on analysis alone. 3. Do not mass roleclaim. 4. Do not fucking mass roleclaim.
But let's look at some more stuff by him. I like people who call bullshit, but people who abuse lurkers and newbies to call bullshit on everything to gain town credit are useless. Just read through his damn post history... it's a disaster.
First thing I noticed:
On May 31 2011 07:54 chaos13 wrote:Where's your evidence?
Why do you care... the bro's got like 2 votes on him. Instead of complaining how about contributing your own analysis. All your posts up until this point aint got nothing in them except directions on how to play, not actually playing.
On May 31 2011 08:17 chaos13 wrote:
I haven't seen nearly enough to convince me to vote Varpulis. I also don't see how everyone is so sure of BC's pro-towniness. It doesn't look like he is going much beyond what anyone else is doing. That's not to say I think he is scum, I just do not feel comfortable being too lax and convincing myself he is town right from the get-go.
On May 31 2011 08:30 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:26 Eternalmisfit wrote:Care to explain why you think that the zodiac lists are bad? I also find it interesting that you complain about spam while the entirety of your posting in this thread is fluff. I agree with him on this. If it was just one player who made a list and we all agreed with it, it would be helpful. However, in this case, mafia can just make a list of a few random names and say they contributed. There is no way to tell the difference between townie making a list and mafia making a list. Palmer, I think your thoughts on Varpulis are pretty good, but it could still just be a townie who is playing differently due to a different role or some other factor. If his defense against you is weak and/or more evidence against him comes up I may vote for him, but I want to consider other players as well.
More defenses.
If you think he's town, you ignore me, and provide a better alternative. Don't just tell me I'm wrong and vaguely, and very damn carefully claim you're kinda suspicious-y. Stop being useless, man up and give me something to work with if you don't want me to lynch Varpulis
On May 31 2011 08:31 chaos13 wrote:
And he has a decent defense, so far at least.
Varpulis, what do you think of GMarshal?
Good post bro.
On May 31 2011 09:26 chaos13 wrote:
redFF, I have no idea why you would have claimed that. From what you posted, you do not lynch that player, you just get to PM the player you put your vote on. You could have just done it and moved on.
This leads me to think you might be scum.
redFF scum, Amber scum
-redFF's claim is truthful, and Amber is faking a post restriction to cause confusion. redFF uses his power on Amber so he can say that Amber has confirmed a post restriction via PM, conveniently where nobody else can see it.
-redFF's claim is a lie. This one doesn't make sense unless he has a suicide role at night. It's too easy to be pointed out on Day 2
redFF scum, Amber town
-redFF's claim is truthful, and he is doing this to build town cred and figure out what to do about a potentially very powerful blue
redFF town, Amber scum
-redFF's claim is truthful, and he is trying to figure out what is going on with Amber. It doesn't make sense to claim in the thread, however.
-redFF's claim is a lie. Again, no reason to lie.
redFF town, Amber town
-redFF's claim is truthful and he is doing what is good for town and figuring things out. Still no reason to claim publicly
So, to sum up my thoughts:
1. It doesn't make sense for both Amber and red to lie, because their rolepickers will counter-claim tomorrow.
2. It doesn't make sense for red to claim publicy if he is a townie. He just gave scum his role.
3. This thought just struck me - we can't completely trust a counter-claim either. Scum have the potential to lie about that if it would be beneficial to them.
yay, you get logic. hi5 bro.
Everyone knew this, stop posting fluff.
Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 06:35 chaos13 wrote:
I'm just going to completely ignore Amber, because a dogspeak role is absolutely useless and we've wasted a lot of time talking about it. He could easily be a mafia who saw that someone decided he had a post restriction, and started distracting us with it. Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:30 chaos13 wrote:
Amber, will you be forced to post like this the whole game, or at some point will you be able to speak normally?
nice contradiction bro. This is still less scummy than most things you've done in the thread.
On May 31 2011 10:43 chaos13 wrote:
tnkted, what reason do you have for your vote on Coagulation?
Questions, useless one liners and pointing out the obvious is almost the entire thing chaos13 has done this game.
Here's the best analysis in the game by jackal:
On May 31 2011 12:12 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 11:59 chaos13 wrote:
I think that would be a good idea. It will give us some focus.
The five I would suggest for this:
tnkted - has not been acting entirely pro-town. I definitely want some more input here.
Sandroba - I'm still not comfortable with his plan in the beginning.
Mataza - Reacted to very light (joking) suspicion at the beginning and was quickly defended (weakly, although lightly) by GMarshal and Palmar
Karshe - has posted and clearly read the thread, but has not contributed. Lurker.
redFF - reasons already stated
What does everyone think of this? I think you're scum.
On May 31 2011 22:19 chaos13 wrote:GMarshal, please grace us with your thoughts on varpulis and kitaman27. Do you think they are both scum, just one of them, or none? Why? Between the two, who appears to be more scummy, and why? While you're at it, why don't you tell me why you have consistently harassed people to start contributing without doing so yourself? Also why you mentioned a few times why zodiac lists and the type were useless without reasoning behind the names when you haven't actually given your own thoughts on anyone at all so far. This is your biggest piece of analysis so far: Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:58 GMarshal wrote:
##Vote: Torte de Lini for someone who is supposed to be super active the only thing he has done is play the noob card. Step up your game man.
Who do you think looks scummiest right now and why? Your posting stance is noncommittal. Your vote commits a lot. What's going on here? The first few questions I asked on varpulis and kita will be a perfect opportunity to start contributing some more btw. Don't forget to answer them.
Nice job calling out GM, at least he's not spamming the thread like you are. thing is, you haven't contributed for shit either. You're fluff-posting, that's damn sure, but nothing you say is of any real value to this game in particular.
On June 01 2011 10:17 chaos13 wrote:
I think Tackster is definitely a good candidate for a lynch. He lurks, posts some brief thoughts that don't really give away much information, and then provides another excuse for leaving again.
I'm also still unsure of redFF and tnkted, but they are not the scummiest players.
Someone I really have my eye on is GMarshal. I don't feel that his contributions have been as good as they could be, and his response to my earlier accusation of him was rather weak. Overall I'm just getting a bad feel from him. This isn't enough to lynch him, but I'll be watching.
As for what is going on right now - Sandroba and Jackal and everyone else in on this argument needs to stop. Neither of you are actually analyzing, you're just going back and forth with "you suck", "No you suck", "shut up scum", "you shut up". It's not providing anything helpful.
kitaman27 and Node, what do you think of GMarshal?
Stop asking questions and being useless.
Seriously, I aint gonna go through more of his shit and quote it here. Do it yourselves. This guy hasn't contributed shit to the game, he's posting oneliners, fluff, advice on how to play, going after lurkers and stating obvious shit.
This guy is a scum trying to be pro town. Can we please just agree on it?
I don't mind, shoot him or check him, but this bro aint no good guy.
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4. Why Node needs to be checked.
I'll be brief. Node is a clever bro, but he's making some weird calls this game. I don't feel it's quite right, so I'd like him cleared so I can work with him. If any cop can clear Node he should claim in the thread, and call him cleared, cause that bro is very useful as town, but he's also not acting as good as I'd expect.
So yeah, please clear him, he'll sure love to be cleared himself.
Unless....
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5 Why tnkted needs to be checked.
Cause he claimed an invulnerable role. Let's just check him and make sure.
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6. Mataza: the road to insanity
Righto, this bro sometimes posts stupid shit. I was mafia in SNMMII and his silly ideas and bad posting helped me convince the town that he needed to be lynched. I'm not about to make the same mistake.
Mataza is in his own words "a gambler", and he likes taking risks. Those risks are generally pretty damn insane. I prefer ignore Mataza over killing him. He's certainly hardly worth a DT check or a kill tonight.
Let's get this show started guys.
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