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On June 01 2011 15:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 01 2011 15:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
@BC
Not usually.
You don't really have to be a dick, guy. I don't know what you're angry about SPECIFICALLY, but I know it doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm not angry duder. Don't take my posting to be angry unless you see mass caps and me calling you a retarded backwoods faggot or the like. I find being aggressive as I am a much better way to force people to step up than being nice about it. It also forces players into arguing. That in turn gives information that is used to analyze people. I know I come off as a dick, but if you sit back and look at what I'm doing the reason is pretty clear. It gives town information to work from, as well as helping you learn areas you need improvement in your game. We all have areas to improve, no shame in it. No, but there's a difference between being aggressive in your posting and just being insulting and rude. But whatever. Teach me how awful I am, if you think you can. And if you're alive that long.
You have outright claimed once, and now soft claimed a completely different role. You have an issue with me being insulting yet then proceed to do the exact same thing. You have been very contradictory so far all game.
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With this I shall be heading to bed, be back in like 6-7 hours. Hopefully more people will be talking by then, I also expect the precious all button will be gone from the thread soon =*(
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On June 01 2011 22:52 prplhz wrote:
Okay I agree that there's no point in spreading votes like this. sandroba has had his share of pressure put on him and if people don't think that he slipped then I guess I'll drop my case against him for now.
##Unvote sandroba
You were dead set against this guy to hang, then come near last minute to say "ill drop my case for now" meaning you still think hes red. Your just trying to hide your voting habits now on bandwagons and are waiting to jump onto the next one.
You have done nothing constructive to help town at all today, which is to our detriment. You get my vote.
##vote prplhz
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On June 01 2011 22:11 chaos13 wrote:
4. BloodyC0bbler's suspect list. From a player who I've heard to be as experienced as you, that was a terrible, terrible post. Most of the players on there are just inexperienced. Bad analysis =/= scum. Think if you were on a mafia team and had a new player or two who was ready to go post their excellent analysis on an unsuspecting townie. Would you let them do it and draw attention to themselves? I know I wouldn't.
Noobtells are not scumtells.
Actually, I would. People would go "oh hes just a noob and bad" letting me hide an entire red team in plain sight. It also gives your team more thread control as your team is active. I know I am not everyone as well so I do get where you are going with that line of thought. However, you must also remember this, in alot of mafia games not everyone on the team communicates. Some players just do their own thing at the benefit or expense of their team. No helping a player like that
As for it the list I posted. Its a group of people primarily revolving around thread derailers. I then gave a brief outline of why. Its day 1, going through the whole "lets quote every post they have to analyze" is pointless. You could snag a red that way but its far less likely. Someones actions are more likely to catch someone at this stage.
They posted badly, and more importantly, detrimentally to town. A horrible townie who plays in opposition of his team can be as destructive as a mafia member. Read almost any game in it with billmurray as town and you will understand where I am coming from. I understand you disagree with me, but the move is far from scummy.
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On June 02 2011 02:42 Karshe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 01:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Actually, I would. People would go "oh hes just a noob and bad" letting me hide an entire red team in plain sight. It also gives your team more thread control as your team is active. I know I am not everyone as well so I do get where you are going with that line of thought. However, you must also remember this, in alot of mafia games not everyone on the team communicates. Some players just do their own thing at the benefit or expense of their team. No helping a player like that
As for it the list I posted. Its a group of people primarily revolving around thread derailers. I then gave a brief outline of why. Its day 1, going through the whole "lets quote every post they have to analyze" is pointless. You could snag a red that way but its far less likely. Someones actions are more likely to catch someone at this stage.
They posted badly, and more importantly, detrimentally to town. A horrible townie who plays in opposition of his team can be as destructive as a mafia member. Read almost any game in it with billmurray as town and you will understand where I am coming from. I understand you disagree with me, but the move is far from scummy.
Some of your posts have rubbed me the wrong way but this one I really don't understand. The first half--sure, that makes sense. It's completely feasible that a mafia could hide behind the noob shield and hope to coast to victory. The last paragraph, however, is what I'm not understanding. You can't have it both ways--either new townie players do their best to contribute and get accused of derailing or they fear posting and get accused of lurking. Of course the answer is "get/play better," and I would assume that is what they're trying to do. I can only speak for myself, of course. But I can say that you haven't exactly encouraged thoughtful play here. Attack the posts, not the player. It almost feels like you're trying to discourage newer/weaker members from posting. Why? One of my previous posts was raising my concerns in regards to Desk, which was waived off as a weak argument and largely ignored. Which is fine, I suppose, but I don't see why that would be labeled as derailing. I would rather look at players whose names haven't been brought up yet rather than bandwagon and vote for someone who already has 5+ votes. Which would you prefer as a follow townie? A noob townie looking for scum or a noob townie who doesn't post and/or is a sheep? Would you rather lynch a noob townie who you believe to be "derailing" or an inactive player? I'm not understanding your agenda. Another player who hasn't received much scrutiny yet is you, BloodyC0bbler. An example of this is GM voting for him as a throw away, "There's no way BC will be lynched tonight." One of your posts from earlier today began with: Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
How about we discuss people who are obviously derailing the town? How about we take a look at people who are obviously active yet not posting. People who come out when called, offer no actual substance and move on. There are numerous players in this game who are not being helpful. This is not to say they are all 100% mafia, but mafia benefit more than town from chaos. To me this is a scum trying to draw attention away from their active scum buddies. "Look at all those inactive scum that are hiding!" is what you're saying to me here, which I find highly suspicious. You have been very active, of course, but I question how much you've actually been helping find scum. Your big claim to fame I would say was your list here: + Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 16:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Varpulis + Show Spoiler +
-pushes anti town plans
- wants to lynch all liars
-attempts to undermine town plans
-spends way to much time on ambers role
-brings up GM’s first question post which was not town oriented. Uses to confirm GM as town
-answers GM’s last questionnaire which was not town oriented
Hiro protagonist + Show Spoiler +
-blindly agrees with almost everything vets say/far too sheepish
-spends too much time on keeping conversation around ambers role
-after town has moved on from ambers role attempts to drag conversation back to it
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Tackster -Multiple cases again him in thread already, see those. prplhz + Show Spoiler +
-wants LaL when it was agreed it doesn’t work in this setup
-sheeps kita, sandroba and possibly others who are being pressured strongly at any one time
-aggressive posting while offering no substance
-defends tackstar, who barely has any heat on
-answers gm’s questionnaire which was not pro town
-says if tackstar is innocent sand is scum (no way of knowing this)
-refuses to justify his read on sandroba(sheeping) while defending tackstar far too much for day 1
Rean + Show Spoiler +
-relatively inactive
-attempts to bring ambers role back up as town is moving on
-sums up information already said.
bartundar -inactive as hell for a vet and offers nothing substantive but rehashing things we have stopped talking about But I question how much this actually helped. It's a large list, sure, but the majority of it is inactive players or people who had already had multiple cases brought up against them. Unfortunately my activity will be low again today, workload is high and time is short. I will do my best to be more active than yesterday and post again before the vote today. My vote for now, however, ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler
So let me get this straight. Your going with my biggest claim to fame is a post of lynch targets who are known to be derailing the town? Yet I have been one of the core people trying to stop people posting anti town ideas, pushing forward pro town ones. The list you quoted is a general list of thread derailers who have been detrimental to town. I made mention on the type of people I intended on listing and no one complained.
As for your "lack of understanding." If a new player follows the guides we have available on the site, or reads past games, or in some cases plays on another site, they would all be aware of the style of posting you don't want to be associated with, be it mafia or town. Talking about important issues, or ones that force player activity are key. Pushing forward bad ideas, re introducing areas of discussion that the town has moved past from or deemed scummy, or redirected the town towards a completely unrelated topic where the one in current discussion is important are signs of someone you dont want hanging around.
I have no issue with people analyzing me, but if you are going to do it intelligently. What you and visceraeyes are doing is trying to create a wagon in the last few hours of a day towards one of the few players attempting to keep a semblance of order in the town. Top it off with neither of you have seriously analyzed any of my posts, just cherry picked one or two instead of my contributions as a whole. Desperate to remove me much?
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On June 02 2011 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Meh, I switched again, cause I'm just that baller.
VisEyes wasn't getting enough on him anyway.
Who wants to check out a bro and see if tnkted really won't hang? That'd be funny as hell.
##Vote tnkted
you do realize viseyes was like 1 vote behind? soft defend?
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With tacksters roleclaim (which is easily provable) and his agreement to step it up I am fine with him living another day. Factor in as well it appears to be a bandwagon that was tunneled I am fine with swapping over.
Visceraeyes is the scummiest looking out of tackster, sand, and him so He gets my vote now.
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On June 02 2011 05:49 redFF wrote:
How is wanting to Lynch BC in itself is a scumtell? Yes he is good, but if you think someone is scum then you try to get them lynched lol. ALso happy birthday BC! :D
Thanks although I still have 7 hours to go !
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On June 02 2011 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town Veteran Zombie Targetting BC
Your move Mafia.
Rofl, have fun offing green blood holmes
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On June 02 2011 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town Veteran Zombie Targetting BC
Your move Mafia.
Also, if you are serious about your role, I will proceed to mock and ridicule you after game k thx!
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On June 02 2011 05:57 bumatlarge wrote:zombies in this forum tend to be able to kill someone who lynched them. I really hope this is a desperate scum move by visc to get votes off him, but I think he would have said that sooner as sucm...
I'm banking on this line of thought so i swapped my vote lol
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just throwing this out there, since I've been told I'm allowed to post it.
*you should lynch sinani*
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note thats all im allowed to say =(
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Palmar was resurrected? ROFL
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On June 19 2011 20:00 deconduo wrote:
Any suggestions for PTP2?
No list checks, incorporate pick their penalty, and shoot whoever gave me my role. Most wtf batman role I have ever seen. ALthough I didn't live to use my role into a night phase, the single best aspect of it was the rival condition bum had to meet if I died making me essentially unkillable via mafia.
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On June 20 2011 06:53 Eternalmisfit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 19 2011 20:00 deconduo wrote:
Any suggestions for PTP2? No list checks, incorporate pick their penalty, and shoot whoever gave me my role. Most wtf batman role I have ever seen. ALthough I didn't live to use my role into a night phase, the single best aspect of it was the rival condition bum had to meet if I died making me essentially unkillable via mafia. -_- Show nested quote +
Batman
You are Batman. You are the hero (insert city name here) deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So the town hunts you because you can take it. You are a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Role-claming as Batman at any point of the game will get you lynched. However, since you are well disguised as Bruce Wayne, role checks on you come back as Playboy Millionaire.
Every night you go ahead and protect the first person being targeted by a KP. However, you are truly incorruptible and do not let scum die out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness and thus protect that person regardless of their alignment.
The Joker does not want to kill as you are too much fun. Thus, you are immune to kills from the regular mafia KP.
Notes:
1. Batman’s protection ability does not work on himself if he is the first person targeted by the kill ability.
2. The ‘bulletproof’ ability only works on regular mafia KP. It does not work on role-KP of other mafia members (since all mob members do not agree with Joker). Also, town KP (vigi-hits) can kill Batman.
This was the original role I made (I did not know there was Joker in the game.. it was just added for fluff in text). Decon removed the mafia KP immune part and added the Joker link (retirement etc) later on w/o informing me. I made a role which could be used both as town and scum as the KP protect could have been used wisely by scum as well to save from vigi-hits. On that note, it would be nice to know who made the roles for whom.
Honestly the biggest beef I had was the name of batman. Had I not had that listed I would have been an not good not bad role. Saying I was batman though meant I should have had something else to my power. Making me able to choose who to save out of whoever was hit at night would have done it or giving me a kp ability or the like. The name batman implies badass beyond belief 
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