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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#1296
On June 02 2011 10:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 10:04 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:42 bumatlarge wrote:
My role leads me to believe I don't have a standard vest, as it specifically states I miraculously survive hits. Fairly certain protection piercing kp or lynch will kil me. .


lol good one. You just finish saying your role is different than your sk alignment and now you think your role doesn't make you bulletproof. Are you sure you're not scum?


Serial Killer
You win if you are the last one standing. You have a bulletproof vest that can survive two night hits. You also have a gun that has two bullets.


Can you not read? Where do I say it doesn't make me bulletproof? I said things that go through bulletproof will probably kill me I.E. sucide bomber or roles specifically designed to go through them.


Only scum take advantage of the illiterate.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#1498
Sorry that I wasn't able to post before the night post. I had to work through lunch today

That being said, we have a lot to go on now since we have wiggles checked as scum and varp flipping mole.

Here is the agenda for today:
1) Wiggles gets lynched. If you are a day vig, shoot now. A dt checked scum lynch gives us little information.

2) Bum, you role claim your joker role in full now.

3) sinani, you role claim in full

4) We look over the day one events surrounding varp

5) Rean and GM stops their insane lurking

6) We use today to discuss our night shots. Kurumi, you should also be forced to role claim if you're going to claim SK
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 22:17 GMT
#1500
Also, no one bother responding to Wiggles. Don't let him spam up the thread and distract us.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#1504
On June 03 2011 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
You are the Tarp Mage. You can smell traps a full galaxy away! You will be notified of how much total KP is possible each night. If any night KP is used on you, you can choose to negate it for that night. You will be notified of the source (Mafia KP, Vig, bomb, etc). If that KP source can be used the next night, it automatically targets you.

Your alignment is Serial Killer
Fine with You,Kita?


Thank you, if this doesn't match what whoever assigned Kurumi's role please claim now.

Also, what was the result for your kp check last night?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 22:34 GMT
#1518
red, based on your pm interrogations, do you have a good feeling about Amber being pro-town?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2011 23:17 GMT
#1527
On June 03 2011 08:12 Mataza wrote:
What? Why vote wiggles?


....Wiggles has been checked as scum and has a shot left. Why would you even make his name green? Is this too good to be true?

Also Bum, roleclaim.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 03 2011 00:05 GMT
#1553
Anyone else find it bizarre that BC was allowed to post? Clearly someone has an ability to allow the dead to speak.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#1554
On June 03 2011 09:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone else find it bizarre that BC was allowed to post? Clearly someone has an ability to allow the dead to speak.


It's also possible a mafia holds the role and forced him to say something.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 03 2011 00:46 GMT
#1570
Don't mason Amber, that's a waste. If you want someone to talk to, pm me or some other pro-town person.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#1712
On June 04 2011 03:37 GMarshal wrote:
kitaman27- mostly lurking, however he gives enough opinions that I'm leaning more town than scum on him.


Before I was setting every alarm off in your book. I've hardly done anything since then. What changed your mind? In addition, why are you inviting Palmer to your circle? Wouldn't it make more sense to invite people you think are scum so you can sacrifice them? Finally, you call yourself a cult leader, does that mean you have an alternate win condition?

On June 04 2011 17:48 Palmar wrote:
I can shoot sinani206 for the town tonight, so don't worry about that bros.


No. No. No.

Town do not waste vig hits on town. If he is telling the truth, think of how strong sinani's power is. He won't be lynched by town and mafia will not night hit him. Hitting him at this point would be pro-mafia. In the event scum do hit him, I think deskscaress has a better role than BC. Bum isn't exactly going to stay around for much longer, we don't want to give up a vig shot and a town in exchange for another town that will disappear midgame.

Whoever created the ability to allow the dead to speak, please claim the role description please. Three people have claimed role block last night. I think it is likely that bum is scum.

Kurami, you are shooting bum.

Bum, you are shooting kurami.

If you are both Serial Killers as you claim, you have no problem taking a hit. Please confirm that you agree to follow this.

Palmer you should be shooting scum. Who are your current top suspects. I'll post during the night cycle with some suggestions.

Jackal, your scum accusations are pathetic. You're better than that. The fact that you are apologizing when calling someone scum feels very, very wrong. FOS.

Rean, request a sub if you aren't going to post.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 15:18 GMT
#1720
On June 05 2011 00:14 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 23:47 kitaman27 wrote:Jackal, your scum accusations are pathetic. You're better than that. The fact that you are apologizing when calling someone scum feels very, very wrong. FOS.

What is pathetic about them? The fact that you're on my list? And no I'm not apologizing for calling you scum. It's just a figure of speech.

You are lurking hardcore. You show up only when your name does.


Your four accusations are as follows:

1) Hasn't said anything to convince me otherwise
2) That's how you roll as scum
3) Bad vibes
4) Bad vibes

You provide no reasoning for any of them.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 15:26 GMT
#1723
On June 05 2011 00:21 redFF wrote:
Yo kita your last post was on page 79 and as soon as someone calls you scum you show up to defend yourself. That's suspicious for sure


Meh I posted when I woke up. How about posting about your opinion on the content, rather than the timing.

On June 05 2011 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Ok I'll not shoot sinani. how about I shoot kitaman, chaos13 or redFF?

is that cool bro?


Heh, is that serious?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 16:08 GMT
#1733
On June 05 2011 01:06 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 00:26 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 05 2011 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Ok I'll not shoot sinani. how about I shoot kitaman, chaos13 or redFF?

is that cool bro?

If you have two shots shoot Kurumi. Bum can supply the third.

As good as this sounds, lets not discuss this in public.. theres a role that deflects KP and we dont know who has it.


Wasn't it wiggles, the scum, who claimed that?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 17:53 GMT
#1751
Jackal, why is your plan based on killing kurumi, rather than bum? Of the two, wouldn't you much rather see bum dead, or do you have an ulterior motive?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 17:58 GMT
#1755
On June 05 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal, why is your plan based on killing kurumi, rather than bum? Of the two, wouldn't you much rather see bum dead, or do you have an ulterior motive?


Also, who is in your circle that came up with this plan?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 18:37 GMT
#1776
On June 05 2011 01:06 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 00:26 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 05 2011 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Ok I'll not shoot sinani. how about I shoot kitaman, chaos13 or redFF?

is that cool bro?

If you have two shots shoot Kurumi. Bum can supply the third.

As good as this sounds, lets not discuss this in public..


Lets make things more private.

I'll check you, if you check me.

I doubt you can resist my night actions, if you know what I mean.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 20:24 GMT
#1797
Tough luck Wiggles. Sorries.

Whoever created deskscaress's role should claim as it is likely that mafia was not aware of his ability when they shot him.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 22:19 GMT
#1838
Here are my current reads. I'll post again about the best way to assign the night shots a bit later.

Palmar

Shot varp day one. I would be shocked if mafia didn't use his kp on him tonight. A good target for medics and watchers. I'm slightly concerned he might shoot a town if his list from earlier was serious though.

#Fistpound Palmer

sinani206

Assuming his role claim is true, I don't see him being mafia. He has an incredibly powerful role, but I wish he hadn't claimed.

Karshe

Needs to post more.

Amber[light]

Town, I guess? It would be incredibly easy to play scum with this role. I would assume he would be dt checked by someone.

redFF

Aggressively posting. Shows motivation to help town.

stefftastiq

Just a gut read, I guess. Nothing to back this up.

DropBear

Starts strong on day one, but has dropped off since. He defended sandroba day one, which I like since it was a dumb bandwagon.

chaos13

He has a larger investment in this game than I'm used to. I haven't seen his style as scum, which makes me less confidant of my read, but I'm leaning town.

Cthsazsa

Mostly town motivated posts.

tnkted

He is either scum or playing a real bad town game. He has made little effort to contribute because he claims to be immortal. At this point, I think he has lost the luxury to keep his power private and eventually should be forced to claim.

On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward.


GMarshal

Shows little indication that he wants town to win this game. Playing incredibly safe. Inducts Palmer to his kill circle, rather than someone he suspects as scum.

Rean

Hardcore lurker. Previous games as town he becomes rather defensive when accusations are made against him, while this game he ignores them. His aggressiveness has taken a serious hit this game.

Jackal58

Jackal has a distinctive aggressive town style. I haven't seen it this game. He has been either neutered or is scum.

Torte de Lini

Pretty useless so far. Strongly playing the newb card.

Mataza

I'm having a really hard time deciding between inexperienced player or obvious scum. Most of his posts I disagree with, but I'm not confidant a scum would ever post like this.

bumatlarge

Red or SK. Either way, I'd like to see him dead.

Kurumi

It is pretty likely he is the SK. He claims to intend to want to help town. I would be much more willing to trust him over bum. Wouldn't mind if he cut down his post frequency a bit though.

Null Reads:
Kenpachi
Mig
Meapak_Ziphh
Barundar
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 05 2011 00:25 GMT
#1857
On June 05 2011 09:21 chaos13 wrote:
I've been trying to analyze this post for the last hour or so, and I have come up with basically nothing. Based on extraneous evidence of Torte, I think that read is a bus. I think Kurumi is a serial killer, because Wiggles seems genuinely confused over him. I think bumatlarge is scum, but again, that is based on other evidence, as well as that I think redFF is town. Chances are 1-2 of his "town" or "no read" players are scum.

As for the rest, I have no clue. It's time for a more experienced player to take this over. I have no idea what sort of thing mafia will tend to do in this situation, or what Mr. Wiggles is likely to do.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 04:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Here's the first part of my reads:

# Torte de Lini: Scum
+ Show Spoiler +
He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night.
On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:
hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?

my idea:
don't kill sinani tonight
lynch bum tomorrow
resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani
boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away

either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum


quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive

also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread.

DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION


This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum.


# Kurumi: Serial Killer
+ Show Spoiler +
He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment.


# Amber[LighT]: Town
+ Show Spoiler +
He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure.


# Jackal58 : Town
+ Show Spoiler +
His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green.


# DropBear: Town
+ Show Spoiler +
He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling.


# Barundar: No Read
+ Show Spoiler +
He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active.


# sinani206: Town
+ Show Spoiler +
I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green.


# Mataza: Town
+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now.


# redFF: Scum
+ Show Spoiler +
From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help.


# bumatlarge: Scum
+ Show Spoiler +
He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts.




Look at the timing of the post. He wrote when he knew he was going to 100% die. Don't try to read anything off it. You would be better off looking at his day one posts or the events surrounding the day one lynch.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#1866
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How about this bum, rather than using your circle as a scape goat when your shot doesn't hit a red tonight, lets make a deal. You claim your shot before the day post. If you kill a scum, I'll pretend you don't exist for two full day cycles. However, if you miss, you're tomorrow's lynch target. Surely that would make things more interesting, no?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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