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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 15:48 GMT
#1633
I have a posting restriction.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#1868
Oh shit, sorry. I was watching MLG.
Yes, I have a posting restriction. I can only post 7 times a cycle and I believe I've posted what... 5-6 times already? So I only have one more post to defend myself. My bad >_______< I'll go back and read but wow, you guys barrel through a lot of people.

Right off the bat I see Wiggles pointing me as scum. Not much credibility there and I'm not sure why he's even targeting me which leads me to theorize two ideas: 1. Deviating ideas and views/directions from himself. A deflection to avoid getting lynched or shot himself (since he's mafia, why not just shoot him and lynch someone we're unsure or we're leaning towards?)

2. Just mad because I voted for him and followed the crowd (I mean, he self-incriminated himself no? I'm not as knowledgeable in reading people like everyone here, but it seemed rather conclusive).

I feel like I'm in a Ten Little Indians book of Agatha Christie.

I got one more post after this, so I'll go back and read and if you guys have anything to say directly, let me know!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 03:50 GMT
#1873
I read them and you make some wild claims, how could you possibly think or presume to know that I visited GM? For one thing My one ability is a passive one, I can't do anything about it nor can I select the people.

This justifies why I haven't been posting much (besides my amateurish level) because even if I did or could contribute beyond directing people's suspicious as you have so eloquently done, I can't do anything more like shoot, inspect or "block" people. I think that idea is ludicrous.

Secondly, I have 0 suspicions of GM. Why would I willingly and intentionally investigate someone I entirely have no suspicions on. I found it odd and ironic how someone asks me if I find GM scummy many pages back when it seemed out of the blue and completely irrelevant. As if my opinion really weighed anything and the sole reason someone would ask me this is because of their own investigative powers or interests towards me.

All in all, nothing really to claim here. I can only post a few times, I can't do anything about my power no matter my alignment (thus my only real strength is my vote, to which I'll easily abide with the crowd who know what the hell they're doing (especially since their role is capable of actually pinpointing suspicions (or debunking them))..

Here's an interesting treasure. Wiggles calls me scum and then you say;
Yeah Gm sacrifice Kurumi tnight please. Once again nobody listen to Wiggles. If he flips town(lol) then we can go back and take a look at his stuff but otherwise just randomly accusing people is getting him nowhere.


Erm... so...

My suggestion? Investigate me with that dog if that is what he can do and don't waste your time on me. Yes, I realize that I'm being contradictory here, telling wiggles is purely deflecting onto me because I'm an easy and simple target, but to be honest, nobody has come out and said they wrote my role, I told you I wrote the role for Sandroba and my activity and levels of understanding are almost zilch.

Right so here's we got:

  • One confirmed mafia telling me I'm scum, how convenient
  • The person telling everyone not to listen to mafia, tells me I'm scum and then can somehow figure or presume I have a selective role-blocking role[ with limited posting


Need I add the fact that he's harassing consistently over other topics and forums all over TL.net even after I said I couldn't post anymore? He just wants me incriminating myself more and more to pass through another day. I'm not saying Redff is mafia, but I am saying that you guys need to screw your heads in right.

All in all, RedFF is trying to fill in the blanks. Good for him, but you're doing terrible at the whole approach to be honest.

So what we can gather from his "posting restriction" is that he is allowed to say that he has one. So if he cannot post much during the day, why didn't he tell us this beforehand???


Wasn't allowed to role-claim, remember? I thought it was clear and I couldn't post anymore to say that the ideas of me busy with work and school were false (they were partially true, but not to that extent, I also hardly posted all that day on TL which was further notated in this topic).

Here's RedFF's bottom-line in reality: Torte de Lini is useless, let's label him and presume a role to appear useful and worthwhile despite the fact that I'm heading in a dead-end and being relatively pointless with my pursuits instead of focusing more on the players who, you know, have done something more significant to the game.

On June 05 2011 03:23 Jackal58 wrote:
How did you determine TdL role blocked Gman?


No reply from RedFF, interesting. He completely avoids how he could assume I have a role-blocking power and avoids how he could figure this out.

As I told Kurumi at the start of this game: talk to me when you get your shit together, but then again I can't post anymore until the next cycle. I already placed my vote for Wiggles, but let me know if we're heading in another direction.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 06:02 GMT
#1887
Decon. said I can only post 7 times per cycle
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 02:53 GMT
#2076
How am I scum again? All I read from RedFF is that he likes to hide his sources and wants to everyone vouch his validity.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#2152
On June 07 2011 01:38 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 01:34 bumatlarge wrote:
OH OF COURSE KURUMI. XD Something seems off so it must be bum who is doing extra things. Perhaps you should rethink your facts you + Show Spoiler +
gorgeous beast

Just letting You know,as confirmed SK I don't need to contribute anymore,but You need some town cred,Mafia Godfather? Before trying to convince people You're on the "good" side do something to back it up.


Why would you say this? Not contributing just makes me not care whether you're lynched, killed or something happens to you. Why don't we just off you now and rid ourselves from your endangerments?


Is Amber or Rean here? I never found out their roles if they role-claimed ;x
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 17:10 GMT
#2154
On June 07 2011 02:07 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 07 2011 01:38 Kurumi wrote:
On June 07 2011 01:34 bumatlarge wrote:
OH OF COURSE KURUMI. XD Something seems off so it must be bum who is doing extra things. Perhaps you should rethink your facts you + Show Spoiler +
gorgeous beast

Just letting You know,as confirmed SK I don't need to contribute anymore,but You need some town cred,Mafia Godfather? Before trying to convince people You're on the "good" side do something to back it up.


Why would you say this? Not contributing just makes me not care whether you're lynched, killed or something happens to you. Why don't we just off you now and rid ourselves from your endangerments?


Is Amber or Rean here? I never found out their roles if they role-claimed ;x

Another useless lurker who is scum. You did not contribute too and You're mass mafia roleblocker,get out.


Good job deflecting instead of bringing any form of credibility to your name.

You don't even know how my blocking works, I can't do anything about it you dolt.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 17:20 GMT
#2159
I don't find out who I role-block and I don't find out anything about them.
To clarify, if someone gets role-blocked, I don't find out why, who or how. I don't get any message or indication that someone got role-blocked.

To put it into an analogy, Smelly guy makes me people sick but no one tells me he's smelly or he's making people sick.

That's essentially the bottom-line. So when I find out that I "visited someone", I'm as equally perplexed as everyone else.

Hope that clarifies a few things. I already casted my vote.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 17:22 GMT
#2160
How am I confirmed scum? Because people are getting role-blocked by a passive ability I can't control?

Or because you guys are mindless followers to the hothead pimple named RedFF who conveniently can "tell" who's who by an unnamed source who we are lead to believe and accept without objection or question.

It's like the fucking Renaissance all over again lolololol
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 06 2011 17:32 GMT
#2164
On June 07 2011 02:24 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
How am I confirmed scum? Because people are getting role-blocked by a passive ability I can't control?

Or because you guys are mindless followers to the hothead pimple named RedFF who conveniently can "tell" who's who by an unnamed source who we are lead to believe and accept without objection or question.

It's like the fucking Renaissance all over again lolololol

Do You have that freaking post restriction or not? You were USELESS,contributed nothing and did not ask to get removed by town,when knowing Your role is amazingly anti-town. You're scum.


I've already wasted 4 on your scrawny ass. I do, but sadly you can't count and you obviously can't put two and two together.

My role is fucking neutral, if you can't decide who to block and you don't know who you block, it becomes irrelevant to which alignment the power is.

You let me know when you get your shit together. Investigate me and find out what or who I am.

Oh wait, you can't do anything right. You just throw harpoons at people to avoid your own dismemberment. Your contribution? Throwing your hands in the air, telling people you don't have to contribute any more and then calling others scum purely because your own involvement is irrelevant and pointless.

I was mad at RedFF for making accusations towards me, but at least he can rummage up some faulty "source" who we are blind to trust.

You? You're just a trigger-happy son of a gun, quick to point a finger. You called your hand when you role-claimed some convenient role, so now you feel you are free and willing to do whatever and say whatever to deviate the town from winning. You don't care who gets voted so long as you stay alive and nobody starts glaring down your worth.

Check your pockets, its emptiness is the equivalent of your contributions and your worth. As for me: scum, lurking and a role that is anti-town despite the fact that I can't do anything about it nor warn people? Reshuffle and check your cards again, this isn't Day 1, non-contributors are still plenty here (check the players list), doesn't mean they should be shifted on an anti-town alignment purely because they are playing like you, just with less words.

This is my 5th or 6th post. So I'm going to stop now, see how it unfolds further on the game and ignore you Kurumi. When people were told to vote for you so you can shut the hell up, I should have obliged like I originally did.

lulz.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 08 2011 21:20 GMT
#2741
On June 09 2011 06:09 redFF wrote:
And yes lol TDL is scum that should be obvious now great job there Barundar too bad you have done jack shit all game :D


This is ironic and sad.

To Barundar: Oh wow, this is incredible. RedFF take note and perhaps Kurumi too since so far all he's done is spout shit and run around headless.

Your opening argument is flawed, it's a broad generalization based on the idea that I am like every common new person, anxious to play and in need to post. However, this thirst is quenched by my unrestricted number of posts outside this game or this sub-forum for that matter. If you don't think I'm a fast-learner, take a gander at Palmar. The poor guy is new, rolled a dice and struck out hard. As for me? I played defensive, followed the herd and relied with private messaging to answer questions rather than waste my posts in-game. True, I haven't really said or done much, besides give doubt to those who are acting on impulse like RedFF and Kurumi, but I feel that at least my vote is reliable to what we townspeople want (townies? townspeople?)

The original analysis of my first post is cute because it doesn't provide a quote but hopes everyone is too dumb or hopeful to lynch me to even bother going back. If you note the context, I was speaking in an ironic tone specifically after someone said that joking you are mafia is very scummy. It's a double-taboo of comical genius to not only joke about your possible two alignments, but also to do it when you are new, on your first post in your new game. I found it hilarious, but if you want to use that as a credible piece of trying pin something on me, you're doing a good job selecting trivial acts rather than looking for Waldo of mafia.

I will, however, admit, that I was foolish wasting strenuous posts on Kurumi. A plague on any actual progressive work we're trying to achieve (or rather everyone else achieves while I ride on the coattails in hopes that mafia gets obliterated). To be rather frank, I still feel nothing really to be said because what is blatantly clear is that Bum is mafia, Kurumi's useless and RedFF will point fingers at anyone in hopes of giving definition to his stance in this game and in his useless role (Note how he's the one pointing the fingers but has no investigative role, why doesn't the person who's investigating here be the one talking? A noble move on RedFF's part to take the dive if shit fucks up, however that just makes him even more suspicious if his unknown "source" is truly an actual source and not fabrications of his unfit mind)

All his other notations are ironic. Barundar tries to use some pseudo form of analytical work. Note how he condemns me for playing the "noob" card but equally relies on it to make his own impressions, cognitive assumptions to make himself seem equally useful, but vastly deviating from the main course of the next lynch, which should be Bumatlarge: someone painted entirely in mafia colors, but still manages to remain above water for some odd and unapparent reason. Why he is still alive is beyond my own amateurish understanding considering confirming that he is mafia (by lynching him), allows us to be lead on a trail a bit more positive, especially since we've suffered several casualities because everyone wants to the leader of the herd.

is the most condemning. Notice the repetition in the questions, and notice the missing words in the second sentence.


What damning pieces of evidence, truly amazing indeed.

What I will agree upon is that I'm purely posting to defend myself. An amateurish move or a blatant attempt to get through the next night while everyone bickers with one another. My actual only goal to be quite honest is to discredit those who are drunk with stupidity and lack of sight and to allow those who make sense to actually stand out, specifically DropBear who's almost always been on cue with great analysis with concise proof of accusations, something Barundar pales in comparison.

I think to only thing you should draw from Barundar is that he is contradictory. He tells me I am at fault for playing the noob card, then uses it as his own justification to label me as scum, then says I am acting uncharacteristically as a "townie". The dots don't seem to connect for him that as a new person, you tend to act unorthodox since you are not familiar with how one should act and are purely acting on a more individual aspect than an alignment of one or the other. You can't say I'm not acting like a townie or that I am acting a mafia person after already saying that I am acting rather terrible, non-contributory and thus like a new player.

This is almost the same as RedFF's claim that since I am posting useless fluff and non-contributions, I thus be mafia purely trying to get around or afloat. People asked for a bit more and he came up with nothing. Nonetheless, I congratulate you for writing a more extensive version of RedFF final thesis.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 08 2011 21:25 GMT
#2747
On June 09 2011 06:22 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:17 Rean wrote:
Lalala. Time to play my hand I suppose.

I'm the psychic. I can switch between alignment checks and votechecks. There's limitations to this to prevent it from being overpowered, but i'm not outing those. The important things are:

- There was one mafia on the VisceraEyes lynch day1.
- Torte de Lini is mafia.
- There were 2 mafia on the Palmar lynch.
- Last night, I was shot and saved.

I can confirm he is telling the truth 100%


Of course you can, you've been advocating its credibility all game with a weak attempt to hide it.
I don't understand how Rean can know I'm mafia.

Also, why Palmar? He's useless since you guys got what... 2 potential leads?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 08 2011 21:32 GMT
#2752
The only issue I have with Rean's role is that everything claimed is ambigious:
1. There was one mafia on the VisceraEyes lynch day1.
2. Torte de Lini is mafia.
3. There were 2 mafia on the Palmar lynch.
4. Last night, I was shot and saved.


Point #1. We have one person on visceraeyes (which isn't me).
Point #3: 2 on Palmar, could be matza, could be Mig, don't know.
and then #4: obvious, didn't need to state it.

But what's peculiar is point #2. A statement already echoed by RedFF (RedFF was speaking on Rean's behalf, so this isn't anything new). It's neither ambiguous or unclear. In fact, it is simple, clear and to the point, but no surrounding evidence to back the claim besides what Rean wants us to believe.

Why not just stick with what we know: bumatlarge and shoot me instead or investigate me as you were suppose to do originally.

That's my two cents, but you guys are doing fine on your own (as you can obviously tell)!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2011 07:37 GMT
#2852
Palmar can't shoot. He's a scrub newbie who plays drunk.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2011 18:52 GMT
#2879
On June 09 2011 17:43 Palmar wrote:
yeah ok, I was worried it might be something like "quote him and get roleblocked, but he can only make 7 posts per cycle".

Anyway, I guess the lynch will explain it to us.

At the moment I'm shooting Hiro tonight.


Not even close, try again?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#2884
Since I'm going to die, I don't feel the need to contribute.
Additionally you guys are incapable of reading Meapak's explanation.

Even if I wanted to help, you don't deserve it, which makes me happy that when killing me, it tells you very little about anything.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 18:14:41
June 10 2011 18:14 GMT
#2946
On June 11 2011 02:01 bumatlarge wrote:


kinda sad that mafia might actually lose to this town :/

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