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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 13:37 GMT
#675
On May 31 2011 22:28 Mataza wrote:
Well Jackal, because an opinion is a fickle thing.
Every little thing you read influences it. It may change several times a day.
A vote, on the other hand, is a big commitment to me. It is my sign of dedication towards my opinion. It won´t move that easily, and therefore placing my vote should have a greater impact.

You're scared that someone will call You as wishy-washy person? So safe,so scummish.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 13:44 GMT
#679
On May 31 2011 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 22:40 GMarshal wrote:
Hey, has anyone noticed that tnkted's vote on coag is actually counted in the vote thread?

Does no one else find that strange?


I told you there are smurfs afoot! I can smell them from a galaxy away

No,I do smell things from a galaxy away.
Well,I'd go for that "I just registered,played on other forums" etc guy.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 13:50 GMT
#691
*runs away*
GOD DAMNIT GOD,WHY ODIN IS PLAYING AGAIN
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:19 GMT
#709
fine,then I will vote for the scummiest person in my opinion
sup bum
##vote bumatlarge
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:31 GMT
#711
On June 01 2011 00:28 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
fine,then I will vote for the scummiest person in my opinion
sup bum
##vote bumatlarge


Care to explain what about him makes him scummy?

Kitaman27 votes Varpulis for "pressure" (mind that kitaman is one of the scummiest people around)
afterwards Bum votes Varpulis too and justifies his vote that he is indeed posting weirdly(etc some crap just to fill in the post) and he is "NoCing him" instead of "FoSing"
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:40 GMT
#713
Why would tnkted be a good lynch where he looks like he wants to get shot/lynched? What's the point? It's fine for me to drop Amber now,why not drop tnkted?
Also I would like to remind You guys that RedFF already claimed twice. I guess You won't go after me with my lynch,because I am not an authority nor I have huge arguments against bum,but it is like that day1.
I will be able to confirm bum being mafia this night probably.
My lynch candidate list is as follows:
Bum
redFF
Kitaman.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:49 GMT
#716
I were Akbar in PYPI. Just because I was him there does not certainly mean I am there too,or does it...
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:55 GMT
#718
What should I say?
"GUYS I AM NOT AKBAR,DON'T WORRY,I AM AKBAR WHO DOESN'T KILL HIMSELF"
I don't get You Bum.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 15:56 GMT
#719
You all know that You can make everyone say You want them.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 16:06 GMT
#721
On June 01 2011 01:03 Mataza wrote:
Kurumi, Bum, could you please get a hold of yourself?

You are just arguing for the sake of disagreement...

Sure,then do something I can discuss about.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 18:21 GMT
#739
There's an old place,which brings unhappiness to everyone in Gotham.
Inside,cold and smelly winds can be felt.
The Good Ol' Bus Driva Hideout

[image loading]

Someone must be sent there and interrogate him to get information we need. I suggest bringing some kind of weapon with Yourself,because He,can be very dangerous,care though. Even if he will look as he is unarmed,he can have a driving wheel in his pocket and redirect the bullet Matrix style.
The Bro must be his secret project. Get every bit of info from him.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 20:19 GMT
#749
On June 01 2011 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh and @Kurumi, give me one reason why I should listen to you right now.

Listen to what?
Also funny how Viscera tries to vote someone "safe" (lurker!) to "prod him" around 1:30h before the deadline,probably many miracles were bond to happen,luckily sinani woke up not giving a free card to Viscera.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 20:24 GMT
#753
Oh,then it is my blunder lol,sorry.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 20:53 GMT
#756
It was directed at Mataza,who told me and Bum to stop arguing without giving anything new into the thread.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:03 GMT
#757
On June 01 2011 05:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 05:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 01 2011 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
FoS Sinani

Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens.

##Vote sinani206


Wow this is a pretty scummy post. You're picking up no scum reads because all the analysis is based on meta? Read through the thread again, that is simply not true. Rather than read through the thread and trying to draw your own conclusions though, you're simply going to vote a complete inactive and wait for "something big" to happen. Veeery bad town play my friend.


How is that scummy at all? I don't understand, to me it's just ignorance which is individual-based and not mafia or town oriented at all.

Sounds both bad mafia and bad town in my opinion. This is no different than the original inquiries to people who were just posting fluff and/or pointless shit (this could be considered one).

Bad town play, perhaps, but by default that makes one mafia?

How many mafia players are in this game anyways?

If anything I'd vote Kurumi, what with what was posted previously. It's not directed at anyone in particular and it seems to be just side-stepping after throwing up his hands in the air from his previous post:

"Sure,then do something I can discuss about."

That's all I really have to say to be honest, the rest I don't really feel warrants much input or views. I mean, you guys are extracting a lot of ideas over very little.

Guess that's even less contributory from me D:

I'm trying dammit D:<


Oh also,I'd like You to decide,are You a newbie or a vet? Because You say "bad,short foses" are not scummy. So You say sinani is bad mafia,then bad town,then You say that makes him mafia. After that,You say You're going to vote me. Your post is ridiculously empty.
*Hurr sinani is mafia but he is not*
*hurr,Kurumi is asking for discussion,but I did not get the context,so well,I won't say anything because I don't feel like it,oh also I know that I did not contribute much,but I am trying no to contribute much,get it?*
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:05 GMT
#761
not to contribute much
triple post~
So I will make You contribute,it is easy and quite funny,Torte.
Who is Your main scum suspect(given that it isn't sinani nor me,because You never stated it clearly)?
Who is appears the most town to You right now?
Are You having fun?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:14 GMT
#766
Congratulations Test Subjects! You just managed to write three worthless posts. I want YOU to start contributing,redFF might take a quick nap though,don't waste too much time though.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:19 GMT
#770
On May 21 2011 20:05 Kurumi wrote:
Incognito,thanks for writing up a nice chainsaw defence.
You're in the corner and You want to save Your life. You could be and egoistic townie "Hero" or just a scum who has been caught on a blunder. There's valid point that You miraculously evaded two lynches (I think both by 1 vote,maybe 2) still You're doing the same thing: searching for more suspects. I think You agreed at one point that brining more suspects than it is IS BAD. I didn't think so early Day 1 (We had A LOT of time) but now we are on Night 2 and the things WENT CRAZY.
Yes,finger pointing IS SUSPICIOUS and You try to make it "legitimate" by saying how it worked in past games,but no,YOU CAN'T RUN AROUND WITH FINGERS! It is obvious that someone will agree with You at one point,thus lynching some random person.
You try to classify Your actions as nulltells/pro-town while they're scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 14 2011 13:30 Incognito wrote:
List of invisible posters:

GMarshal
Kitaman27
tnkted


Bum's post is on spot. Fortunately, I already mapped out some stuff.

PYP Insane Game Plan


The optimal picking strategy revolves around this cute little role:
Show nested quote +
Thief
You have the ability to steal the role of a specific player one time per game at night, meaning they lose their role and become vanilla, while you gain it. If you steal from a vanilla player, nothing happens to them and you gain nothing. You cannot steal the role of a traitor or mole. Neither you nor they may not use their role the cycle you steal from them. The following cycle after you steal you can use their role freely with the same limits taken from them. For example if the vote rigger already used his double lynch before you stole it, you will not be able to use it.


This role obsoletes the PYP1 and PYP3 role picking strategies. The mere existence of the thief on the role list means that it would be seriously harmful for mafia to know where the good roles are. Of course, it’s a no brainer that the good roles are in the beginning part of the list. So my only advice is that if you’re in the beginning of the list, seriously consider picking a role such as NRA member or Meth Man to deter the mafia from hitting/stealing roles from the top of the list.

Due to the fact that the mafia can coordinate numbers with each other while the town can’t, it is very likely that mafia will get a spot within the top 3. As shown by the past PYP games, mafia has gotten the first or second spot in all 3 games. Which means town will likely have to be on the defensive, as it is hard to guarantee that we can effectively deny mafia the thief role.

The amount of potential KP in this game is huge. This means that there is a huge potential for the game to end quickly. The basic town strategy should be to avoid KP roles, while going heavy on investigative and defensive roles to try to prolong the game.

Tier I Roles
Mafia 2 Detective + Vote Rigger
Inventor
Chuiu Jack
Modern Detective
Role Cop
Bullet Bill
PYP3 Veteran
Doctor
Bulletproof

Mafia 2 Detective combined with the Vote Rigger is a combo that allows us to break up the town into chunks and analyze with greater ease. The formula is simple. The Vote Rigger rigs the Day 1 Vote into 4 roughly equal blocks with 7, 6, 6, and 5 voters each. All the lurkers/suspicious people are piled onto one list, and the Modern Detective uses his vote check to check one vote block each day, starting with the lurkers. Town then proceeds to analyze the split lists, allowing for more focused analyses. The rest of the investigative roles are used to sort through the lists, while the defensive roles prolong the game and squeeze the mafia.

The Mafia will want these roles
Kingmaker + Politician
Thief
Caller Godfather
Roleblocker
Janitor
JailKeeper
Puppeteer
Hero
PYP3 Veteran
NRA Member
CPR Doctor

The best mafia combo pick is Kingmaker + Politician. This effectively gives mafia an unlimited anonymous unblockable dayvig power, capable of sniping off all the top town players. Caller Godfather is also an obvious mafia role. As anyone who’s read Caller’s Mafia V knows, Godfather recruiting high level townies with good roles is a town’s worst nightmare. Denying this role is iffy, as a mafia thief has plenty of time to try to find the role and steal it before it can actually be of use. Jailkeeper, roleblocker, and NRA member are powerful roles for the mafia that prevent investigations, and potentially save mafia from NKs. Hero and PYP 3 veteran cause town pain when mafia slip out of lynches and snipe off a townie. Lastly, puppeteer is surprisingly useful for a good mafia arguer, as it allows them to anonymously mislead town and cause tons of chaos in the thread. However, the most critical roles that we need to deny are the Thief, Politician, Jailkeeper, and Roleblocker. Due to the threat of a mafia thief, we can’t discuss precise strategy here, but townies should strongly consider picking one of these 4 roles.

By the way KillerSOS is mafia.

Also Node is mafia.

There's Your "I HAD NO PLAN LOL WAT U SMOKIN' BRO"
Your trickery needs to go to hell,Your actions did nothing but denied us from doing ANYTHING Day 2 besides thinking why Incognito would nuke someone out of blue,while we have King's lynch at disposal and plenty of time (and a pretty legit votecheck list) You knew and still know that Your time is running short,thus You try to spew chaos as much as You can,You contradict Yourself,never change attitude and LIE.
Lynch All Liars,remember?
Yes I am angry,because You think You're a Holy Hero who everyone should follow,while we caught some blood on Your cape. This is sweet how You try to derail us from the list Gmarshal posted.


Here You go,this is the latest Pick Your Power Insane!
Feel free to analyze and waste town's time on "You" and commas. This reminds me how I laughed with Ace when they were trying to understand a logic behind the numbers then.
I'd like You to stop picking on my style,okay?
Instead answer this:
Who's Your best lynch candidate? (Why?)
Who looks like townie to You? (Why?)
Who looks like scum to You? (Why?)
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:23 GMT
#772
On June 01 2011 06:20 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 06:12 deskscaress wrote:
On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote:
Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter?


dude i was this close to PMing him asking him to stop typing it that way XD


Whoa, what? How can you PM kurumi deskscaress?

Meh,he probably meant the normal question,kind of OOG probably,if not,oops for him.
Sandroba,I'd like to remind You that redFF claimed twice(although his first claim was probably a joke,still worth noticing) he claimed "Dog Whisperer",it was a lie.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 31 2011 21:43 GMT
#782
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.

We say who we created role for. We still don't know KP,but we have shitload of false claims,right.
How? I say I made role for X,someone counterclaims then what? I am supposed to tell the role? Clever way to get more roles than You know if You're mafia.
Claiming in mass roleclaim while the game is full of insane roles,pick Your poison guys!

The information we would get from that does not benefit the Town as much as it would benefit the Mafia,that's why it is bad.
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