EPTAlso redFF whoops sorry forgot about your role
Do roleblocks on Kurumi block his night shot, his KP check or both?
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DropBear
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Also redFF whoops sorry forgot about your role Do roleblocks on Kurumi block his night shot, his KP check or both? | ||
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On June 04 2011 04:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I didn't start that stupid argument on day 1, that was just redFF being bad again. Mista Wiggalina Mista Bob Wiggalina Mista Bob Wiggalina won't you quit? You really make me sick with your fraudulent behaviour You're gonna make me flip and then an army couldn't save ya Why don't you behave you little rugrat Take a little tip from the tabloid, because I know I'm not paranoid When I say I saw ya tryin to mock me Now you and your crew are on a mission tryin ta hawk me But it isn't happenin you fraudulent foes You used to front big time now I suppose That everything's cool since the style of apparel you adopted You used to make fun of but now you wanna rock it So you gotta kick it with the homies But DropBear is already hip to your cronies Me and deskcaress thought about this and never have we seen a Townie who could look like Mista Mista Mista Wiggalina Mista Wiggalin Mista Bob Wiggalina Mista Wiggalina Mista Bob Wiggalina Oooo, oooo Mista Wiggalina, ya thought you could manipulate You thought that you could fool me, ooo , oooo Mista Wiggalina Teacher used to put me in a slump And then he schooled me Your friend bum can be fraudulent, just you wait and see First he was your moneygrip then he stole your honeydip Mista Wiggalina is a serpent don't you agree? A little two-timer, resembles bumatlargaaa With suit and a dirty red hoodie Seems like he wouldn't be a snake or would he? Disguises come in all shapes and sizes Notice the facade of the snakes They all catch the vapes Even though last year they was GGQ Took a lot of time Before DropBear could see through The mask, all I had to do was ask The hamper worth and Kwame And my man responded they would bomb a Fraudulent foe with the strength of Kurumi The way you on ma dick must have really hurt your knees You need to take heed and stop being such a groupie Ever since I did a little show in Guadaloopieee I never saw a groupie like you But what the funny is You wanted to be down with townie crew But DropBear is not down with any clowns or jesters So I would suggest that you try and impress uncle Bum Wiggalina Because you don't impress me Wiggalina The style of dress is not key Wiggalina It's all in the mind and the heart so you should start By remembering you gotta pay your dues Wiggalina Mista Wiggalina Mista Bob Wiggalina Mista Wiggalina Mista Bob Wiggalina YOU IS DEAD WIGGALINA | ||
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DropBear
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Once again, do not medic protect or rolecheck me. | ||
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Meapak has died because of me. I asked people not to medic protect or dt check me. I should have said night actions of any kind -_- him using a night action on me activated my passive ability and killed him. Anyone claiming to have shot him is lying. I will be back at uni tomorrow where I have full internet access again and will get caught up and post my thoughts. | ||
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DropBear
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. Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then.Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum. | ||
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 Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum. | ||
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Vote staying where it is. Goodnight all. | ||
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First of all, the rampant finger-pointing needs to stop. Everyone is yelling at everyone. Calm down so we can find the patterns from this. The Palmar lynch was a huge mistake but it has given us plenty of information. Stop going schizo at each other and form some rational arguments. Bumatlarge is getting lynched tomorrow. Once again, it would be unwise to use a night action on me. | ||
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DropBear
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Bum is dying tonight via the bomb so any votes for him are a complete waste. I'm seeing a lot of lists here but no actual analysis. "Probably town" needs something more to back it up. Voting Torte for now due to Rean's rolecheck. | ||
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ON HIRO PROTAGONIST Hiro is on both votecheck lists provided by Rean. He has much lower activity than many of the players remaining. DAY 1 Jumped on the Viscera Train late, helping it get over the line at the last minute. The only reasoning given is this: On June 02 2011 05:49 hiro protagonist wrote: unless vis steps up, I might switch to him at this point DAY 2 Once Mr Wiggles is brought up as red: Which is????????? On June 03 2011 06:57 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, Wiggles does have a gun. I was not sure about Cthsazsa being town. still not. but Im not gonna trap him like I thought I could. It now seems very implausible that Wiggles is town. but It must be a lynch and not a bullet. ##Fistpound Palmer No shit it's unlikely he's town, he was flipped in the day post. Only now it is obvious he is toast are you willing to admit this. You don't have a choice except to bus anymore. Which was???????? On June 03 2011 07:20 hiro protagonist wrote: OK, we have are lynch targets for today: Wiggles, Bum. which should we off first? on one hand, we know wiggles role. and he still has one more bullet to use. not good. I am not confident Bum has his powers. Wiggles might be the best lynch for tonight. But then the God Damned Batman yells out from his grave and says for us to lynch sinani? I am confused as too why this was allowed, and what intentions are behind BC statement. This is classic nothing post. Brings up lynch candidates but doesn't want to commit either way, then tries to divert discussion into BC's post. On June 03 2011 14:53 hiro protagonist wrote: Why do I get the feeling that theres a lot of talking going on outside this thread. -_______- guess I will just have to wait till people come back here. some thoughts: Wiggles has got to be the vote. As jackal pointed out, there is very little chance that Mafia could have planed that. They did not know his role, I did. (unless he revealed his role in some mansion pm, but that does not sound like wiggles, or there is some daytime dt). It also makes sense for him to use his bullets, as if he is hit, he has no more of them. good to get the most use as soon as possible. The only thing that bothers me is Desk as a hit. why kill him, as he was not terribly useful imo. should the very unlikely happen and Wiggles flips green, Cthsazsa becomes my top suspect, as he gave sinani his role. ##vote Mr. Wiggles There is not a lot of discussion about the God Damned Batman's after death statement. I would like to hear what people have to say about this. Why did he say Lynch? does he know that it would not bring him back? does he think hes scum? Writing this, I realize no one can answer it. But it bugs me. Im fucking confused Tries to divert onto Cthsazsa and divert onto the BC discussion again. He only switches over once it is apparent that there is no chance in hell of Wiggles getting out alive. DAY 3 On June 08 2011 04:06 hiro protagonist wrote: Im back. First, I want to say Im sorry. I pulled a bit of a kiti and soft raged quit after night 2. I was frustrated at the amount of town on town killings in 2 days. I was also frustrated that most of the real discussions seemed to be going on in mansion circles, which I was left out of... I did not know who to trust, and I had no leads. I felt useless Now I come back to see a lot of really good discussion and leads. this has to be the turning point for us. I read up through the thread and have decided to vote Palmar. I am pinning my hopes on this because If Palmar flips scum then I can finally trust Jackal and GM. something I have been hesitant to do. ##vote Palmar Ok so he goes after Palmar, someone who he didn't have on his radar, over bumatlarge who he was talking about Day 2, for the sake of being able to trust people he doesn't trust? On June 08 2011 04:20 hiro protagonist wrote: Not the whole game -___- I was mostly active up till night 2. But I do deserve some lashing for my disappearance. I am sorry. Also, Palmars defense of me really makes me think he is mafia at this point. I don't see how anyone could say I'm mostly town... So you vote Palmar, because he defends you? This is just weak reasoning for jumping on the train. DAY 4 On June 09 2011 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote: This needs to be talked about more. We can not leave it to chance that bum will die. I think we should lynch him NOW. He should have been the last lynch. towns got plenty of KP that can be put on people likely to die from it. we got Palmar. Letws Lynch Bum Bum is almost guaranteed to die to the bomb. What kind of role would be bulletproof day and night? That would be stupidly overpowered and there's no way deconduo would have allowed it. You are trying to stop the scum team losing 2 people in one day. On June 09 2011 16:02 hiro protagonist wrote: waste a KP? hardly. I don't believe a word bum says. your argument does not prove anything, The fact of the mater is, we don't know if that bomb is gonna kill him. Others are worried too. I just was talking about other options. And yes, this is far from over. the last thing we need to do, is waste KP on a townie. I would rather save bullets for known scum. We have a DT. check me. I will vote with town. after the night, then we see who is scummy  If Torte survives tonight, there's more roleblocks the following night. Same as the previous point. Trying desperately to save Torte. CONCLUSION Hiro has actively tried to derail the Wiggles and Torte lynches. He has been on last second trains on Viscera and Palmar with little or poor reasoning. He tried repeatedly to derail town concerning the BC post which was irrelevant at the time. He is on the votecheck lists. Hiro Protagonist is Mafia. | ||
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On June 09 2011 18:17 Palmar wrote: And I'm shooting that mafia tonight Good | ||
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What happens to Mig though? On June 09 2011 06:55 stefftastiq wrote: I KNOW The joker planted a gas cannister ong MIG with 1 day timer The joker attemted to kill Rean BUM IS SCUM 4 SHO | ||
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Palmar I still can't fistpound you safely. Everyone else, get on! The plan of lynch Jackal and shoot Barundar is a good one. Palmar is getting less and less fistpounds as people die so taking out the serial killer now instead of in two instalments is a good idea. Rolling with this yo! Cthsazsa this confuses me. If Karshe was scum, why would he bomb bumatlarge? He managed to guarantee the death of two Mafia on one day. He could easily have bombed someone else or "waited until he had more information". The actions don't add up. | ||
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Why redFF is the remaining Mafia redFF has the role of interrogator. He has been steadily building up knowledge of all the roles that were either unrevealed or difficult to determine at the time. I think he's been using it to coordinate the Mafia hits. VOTING His voting, while necessary for his role, allows him to escape taking sides on anything important. He can throw wild accusations freely without any accountability should he be wrong. He could easily have picked any of the lynch targets to mason and get some info to share with the town. From my understanding of his claim, there was nothing to stop him from switching his vote onto someone meaningful either. Day 1 Votes and masons Amber. Gets information on his role that noone else can get. Day 2 Votes and masons chaos13. Avoids voting for Wiggles. Day 3 Votes and masons Rean. This was the most critical lynch of the game and he stayed right out of it. Not only this, Mafia attempts to shoot Rean that night, before his DT claim was made public. Day 4 Votes and masons Eternalmisfit. Mafia shoot EM that night. Day 5 Votes and masons Cthsazsa. BEHAVIOUR During the game, redFF's contributions have basically been abusing players. There has been no analysis, no reasoning, just yelling at people. It's just been spam and all caps posting which has made the thread much, much harder to read, which is definitely pro-Mafia. red spent 2 days tunnelling Mataza, distracting from any other discussion. He went after Torte only after he was pretty much dead following the roleblocking enlightenment. He is only acting on accusing people once DT checks or role abilities are used and he has no choice anymore. He has been extremely unhelpful otherwise. redFF is Mafia. | ||
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GMarshal was roleblocked by Torte on Night 1. If he was Mafia, there is no way they would have allowed this to happen. I don't believe Jackal58 for a second on his assassin claim. He suddenly busts out a super Mafia list now that he's been revealed by Rean. He has every reason to lie about it. Cthsazsa and Amber I have no idea. Lynch Jackal58 today, Palmar shoot Barundar tonight, then we lynch redFF tomorrow. | ||
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On June 12 2011 16:47 Cthsazsa wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2011 16:38 DropBear wrote: Why redFF is the remaining Mafia redFF has the role of interrogator. He has been steadily building up knowledge of all the roles that were either unrevealed or difficult to determine at the time. I think he's been using it to coordinate the Mafia hits. VOTING His voting, while necessary for his role, allows him to escape taking sides on anything important. He can throw wild accusations freely without any accountability should he be wrong. He could easily have picked any of the lynch targets to mason and get some info to share with the town. From my understanding of his claim, there was nothing to stop him from switching his vote onto someone meaningful either. Day 1 Votes and masons Amber. Gets information on his role that noone else can get. Day 2 Votes and masons chaos13. Avoids voting for Wiggles. Day 3 Votes and masons Rean. This was the most critical lynch of the game and he stayed right out of it. Not only this, Mafia attempts to shoot Rean that night, before his DT claim was made public. Day 4 Votes and masons Eternalmisfit. Mafia shoot EM that night. Day 5 Votes and masons Cthsazsa. BEHAVIOUR During the game, redFF's contributions have basically been abusing players. There has been no analysis, no reasoning, just yelling at people. It's just been spam and all caps posting which has made the thread much, much harder to read, which is definitely pro-Mafia. red spent 2 days tunnelling Mataza, distracting from any other discussion. He went after Torte only after he was pretty much dead following the roleblocking enlightenment. He is only acting on accusing people once DT checks or role abilities are used and he has no choice anymore. He has been extremely unhelpful otherwise. redFF is Mafia. You're ignoring the fact that your name is on the list of scum that Jackal provided. Are you going to address that or hope no one notices it and let it slide? His entire accusation of me is "bum told me so." Why should I bother responding to it? He's been caught and he's trying to shit the place up before he goes. I'm not worried about being on his list at all. | ||
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On June 12 2011 16:50 Cthsazsa wrote: Despite everything you listed DropBear, hardly any of that incriminates redFF as scum. Why not? Avoiding taking sides on anything important? Common Mafia trait. Getting free access to information not available to anyone else and failing to use it for town benefit? Pro-Mafia. Rean gets shot before anyone has any idea what his role is? And redFF masons him right beforehand? Huge Mafia play. Shitting up the thread to make it difficult to scum hunt? Pro-Mafia. Tunnel the same guys for 2 days straight when he's far from the town focus? That's what I did when I was a Mafioso in XXXVIII. | ||
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On June 12 2011 17:07 Cthsazsa wrote: Jackal has every reason to lie about it? Wtf are those reasons? Jackal's been revealed, his game is over, there's no chance in him winning anymore. Why the hell would he make that up, just to screw town over? Hell, Jackal has been playing better then some of the townies here. As for Karshe, he had no choice but to put a bomb on bum. That's the only reason to even consider he's green. That is his only alibi. Go back and read my two posts if you don't believe me when I say he's scum. As for GMarshal, he definitely isn't living up to the town-leader expectation that everyone seems to have of him. The fact that he was roleblocked even more causes me to believe that he's not scum but 3rd party. Ruling out the chance of having 3 assassins with the only pitiful argument that "We would have found one by now herp derp" is the shittiest excuse ever. For all we know and with the way this crazyass game plays, Amber could be the 3rd assassin and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if he was. I'm actually starting to consider that Jackal's list might legitimate. Lynch Barundar, shoot Karshe, Jackal claims he will shoot GM, and lynch Jackal tomorrow. We can figure shit out from there. Of course he has every reason to lie about being assassin. If he is SK, he has night lives and Palmar wouldn't be able to kill him. More information would come from the night and there's a larger chance he could divert the lynch onto someone else and survive til the end. As for Karshe, there are plenty of things he could have done. He could have claimed that he can only plant a bomb every two days. He could have claimed that he only had one bomb. He could have claimed that there wasn't enough information. He could have claimed roleblocked. You really really want this guy dead don't you. I'm sticking by him. Karshe is town. Convince me why we should lynch Barundar instead and I will vote with you. Jackal is anti town. There is a HUGE chance if we leave him unlynched he can kill a townie tonight. Barundar can be easily killed tonight. There is at least one more Mafia so the anti town KP remains at 1. Lynch jackal, anti-town KP is 1. Lynch Barundar, anti-town KP is 2. If there's something I'm missing, tell me. | ||
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He has been playing poorly in spearheading the Palmar mislynch. He has however been very active in generating discussion and posting reasoning for what he does. He hasn't been content to sit back and rely on the roles to do all the work like most of us have. He's been trying to help and I am strongly optimistic that Marsh is town. | ||
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