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I think that no matter what we get more information from this than a settled lynch with no discussion. Bum is an excellent lynch, because he isn't town and we need to kill him. I'd say Palmar and TDL are decent candidates for scum.
Palmar's only defense seems to be that he shot the mole. Bum's defense is the same, that he pushed hard for the mole in the beginning. We don't know if there is more moles around, but we know if there is, they would have turned mafia today. Chances are a mole who hasn't gotten killed off by this point has a lot more town cred.
TDL has been avoiding the thread, and he fails to put up a proper defense. Meapak confirmed his role, but even with his posting restriction, he has been one of the least contributing persons so far. Of the three, he is by far the scummiest in my opinion.
redFF unless EM is another mole, I don't see him being scum. He has been posting consistently without fear, and not just small posts without contributions. Hiro Protagonist is suspicious to me too, but he is just one of out several lurkers, very hard to get a read on.
Of bum, Palmar and TDL, TDL seems the most suspicious to me. Sadly he has gone through the game pretty much without any pressure, bar people screaming to vigi him. To that end I will put my vote on him, but I'm going to change if a bunch of suspicious fellows joins me.
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@Palmar read the day post again, Mataza has a bomb on him. Should give us some good information. Torte seems a lot scummier than you Palmar, but your defense is wifom. I'd love to see you post cases instead. What do you think of the lurkers Hiro Protagonist and Karshe, possibly others I have missed?
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Mind updating the player list decon? Who did he replace? Has he claimed DT yet?
Welcome Pandadude :p
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On June 07 2011 03:55 Kurumi wrote:
1KP my
1KP mafia
1KP Palmar
1KP Pandain
1KP Karshe
1KP Gmarshal
Does this sound good enough?
Karshe claimed vigi? What about the bomb on Mataza, isn't that counted as a KP?
Pandain ALWAYS fake claim, regardless of alignment. Don't buy into it, it's pointless, and doesn't say anything of him.
Also don't bring up lynching for information, it's just a bad thing all around. We lynch the guy most likely to be mafia, or we lynch an SK. Either case the lynch is not wasted, and we get more information through the voting procedure and following flip than through connections to other people.
In short vote for who you think is scummiest, so we can hold you accountable for it. Saying you will vote someone and then backing off when questioned about it is NOT a valid excuse.
My vote is staying on tortelini, despite he looks more pro town through his argument with kurumi, he still has failed to give proper reads and thoughts on the game. I'm expecting him to do a proper post with his last post, and then I will consider moving my vote off him, but he is not getting away this easy.
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Where does it say that Pandain replaced Kenpachi? last I saw on the subject decon said he was "negotiating".
Palmar are you sure of those names or are you guessing?
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EBWODP "Palmar" should read "Kurumi"
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On June 06 2011 20:56 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 19:42 Barundar wrote:
Mind updating the player list decon? Who did he replace? Has he claimed DT yet?
Welcome Pandadude :p Will update in a bit. Trying to negotiate with people.
Also, there was a typo in the day post. It should have read that the bomb on Mataza will explode in 48 hours. Apologies for the mistake.
This post a few minutes later though J
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On June 07 2011 04:26 Kurumi wrote:It is highly likely that it went like that. The Pandain and Karshe case is uncertain,though makes sense.
Urgh forgive me if I don't exactly by into what you are guessing...
6KP is still a lot, if Palmar is scum we need to kill him today to reduce it.
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Yeah might have to reconsider. Problem is Palmar isn't exactly scummy in his posing, its just his actions...
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Problem is Palmar, I'm not sure I trust you to prove it, shoot more townies and play noob card, if you are mafia you put yourself into the perfect wifom position with the mole kill in the start. Ah well will see tomorrow when Torte has posted again.
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Mig you want to shoot TLD but you don't think he is mafia and would rather lynch bum? Explain please?
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lol this is why LAL is a proven policy. We have no way of knowing if there is assassins in the game or if he is pulling numbers out his ass. Now we are banking on a faction we don't know exist to kill him. What are we going to do when he survives the night and hand us another lie?
Stop the BS.
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Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to...
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On June 07 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 21:40 Barundar wrote:
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to... I can't shoot both guns at once. Dec said it'd be overpowered.
Dec can you confirm this?
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Meh I don't trust Palmar one bit, but we can deal with him tomorrow I guess. At least we get one claimed anti town tonight. I'll keep my vote on torte, with the hope that he dies tonight. Bye bye bum.
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On June 08 2011 00:30 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 00:21 Barundar wrote:
Meh I don't trust Palmar one bit, but we can deal with him tomorrow I guess. At least we get one claimed anti town tonight. I'll keep my vote on torte, with the hope that he dies tonight. Bye bye bum. What good is keeping your vote on TDL going to do?
What good is being number 13 or 14 on the bum lynch going to do? Bum is pretty dead with or without me by the looks of things, I'll stay where I'm most certain of scum.
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On June 08 2011 01:27 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 10:07 chaos13 wrote:
I don't want you to kill sinani.
Live Sinani206 Could have been a hint that Chaos13 created Sinani's role, but I have doubts. He didn't push hard enough, as this was the only post I saw. Of course there was Mig, redFF, and Mataza (I think) who were against killing Sinani. I don't buy his 100% revival claim. His role claim was also stupid. He should have been trying to bait mafia shots, instead it looks like he's trying to bait vigi shots on him.
I'm almost completely sure I read whoever made his role confirmed it, otherwise I would have put sinani on my inactivity lists. If I'm wrong, my bad. You are right it could be a scum move to ask for hits, but considering how willing people have been to shoot everywhere, I'd consider it a huge gamble. In any case I should go back and check sinanis roleclaim, urgh. Why is this game so hard to read...
Torte has been arguing with Kurumi sure, but that seems to be all he has done. He has consistently played the noob card, and talked to his accusers instead of trying to find scum, and now he has disappeared again. I don't see why you defend him.
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Barundar, if you keep your vote on someone you don´t want to lynch, we have to assume you gain Role powers by voting. Very suspicious.
Don´t forget he did this after tonight.
What? Could someone translate this please? TDL is by far the best lynch today. While either bum or kurumi might be scum, I'm way more certain TDL is scum. I place my vote where I think scum is, not where someone else tells me to. And my role has nothing to do with where I vote lol.
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Kurumi should read palmar. Why do I keep mixing up those 2 names 
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Mataza why don't you tell me why you think TDL is town? Somehow I doubt that all three targets today are mafia, and if I had to pick one of them I was sure of it had to be Torte De Lini. It makes no freaking sense to go into the Palmar vs Bum discussion when we have an obvious mafia to lynch.
For what it's worth Palmar, I think you have played a pretty damn good game regardless of alignment. People trust in you and what you say, despite lie upon lie telling them not to. That's signs of a strong player, truth is mafia it's not about having a good scumdar, it's about being able to influence people, and get your targets lynched, something I will never get good at.
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