How? You have to provide reasoning. Read through my damn posts from day 1 and tell me I'm scum ffs, I'm one of the most obvious townies in this game. GM is either Mafia or an idiot, but he has to die because he is on the list, and is scummier than Steff and Amber. Do you have reason to believe there is a miller? Please give me reasoning for killing me apart from GM busing Dropbear.

This is the same reasoning as I used as mafia in the first game I played. I knew I hadn't slipped and thus asked for people to go back and make post by post analysis, as a way of reducing suspicion on me.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 21:25 GMT

#3378

Should have ended.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:03 GMT

#3389

GM

I don't want you to use your abilities tonight

I'm shooting redFF

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:09 GMT

#3391

On June 16 2011 07:07 redFF wrote:
lol w/e palmar for best vigi of all time -_-

Well I'm technically vig shooting per popular request.

GM and Rean both want you dead.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:11 GMT

#3393

On June 16 2011 07:10 GMarshal wrote:

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I'm inducting someone if you don't mind, I want to be able to chat with people.

I do mind.

Please do not induct anyone into your cult.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:17 GMT

#3396

On June 16 2011 07:14 GMarshal wrote:

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I will be inducting Cthsazsa. I want to press him in PM's.

Why don't you want me inducing people?

Several reasons.

a) you can kill people in the cult. I'm not convinced you're town, so I don't want you to have any additional powers.

b) some mafia games have cults with independent win conditions (like turn half the town). I know a cult isn't a 3rd party thing, but if you're scum it could come down to the people in your cult being manipulated in some way. Maybe you can force their votes or something.

c) you said we should rely on analysis, so let's keep all the information in the thread and out of PMs.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:26 GMT

#3401

On June 16 2011 07:01 Rean wrote:
Palmar, for the love of god, please vig redff. Even if by now you still don't think he's scum, shoot him just to shut him the fuck up. Shooting GMarshal would be ridiculously stupid at this point.

I'm interested.

While I haven't stated I'd shoot GMarshal there are several good reasons for killing him.

Let's have a look at his "accomplishments"

Calling out bum, whose role got leaked. Well so did I, and I am bad.

Voting for Wiggles... well duh.

Killing Kurumi, again... duh, he was an outed SK.

Killing Jackal, once again, obvious choice, I am bad at this game, and I was independently calling for exactly the same thing, I think before GM called for it.

DropBear: yes, this was good. I will agree to that. But was it a bus or was it a good call?

GMarshal keeps rehashing these achievements in his defense, but most of it seems like obvious reasoning.

Now let's move on to reason number 2 to shoot GM

He has a freaking KP that we can't control.

And finally

bumatlarge
Eternalmisfit
Kurumi
Jackal58
Karshe
GMarshal
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Rean
hiro protagonist

GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]

two lists. both lists have two mafia on them.

By exclusion the remaining mafia is GMarshal or Amber.

Except, of course, there might be a miller type role.

so Rean, if you know something I don't. Please explain why GMarshal is a bad kill? I think I'm shooting redFF, but I really want to know why you say killing GMarshal is stupid.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:29 GMT

#3405

On June 16 2011 07:27 GMarshal wrote:
You need to read the last two posts of the thread man

They were written while I was writing my own.

My post is irrelevant now.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:35 GMT

#3406

Also, Cthazha has two pretty town looking actions on his record.

a) he claimed creating wiggles's role. if this is true he's almost definitely not mafia.

b) he planted a bomb on hiro, information that then got leaked through stefftastiq. Remember, this is when everyone agreed that hiro was likely scum.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:38 GMT

#3410

if redFF was scum, why did he out your role, when you were a likely candidate for lynch/kill

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 22:40 GMT

#3413

And why shouldn't I just shoot you Karshe?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 23:02 GMT

#3418

On June 16 2011 07:40 Karshe wrote:

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I don't remember this at all, are you sure? Cthsazsa is a zombie, he doesn't have any bombs (that was me, but I'm out of ammo).

Well stefftastiq did something like

"the crazy cat lady has chosen hiro"

It's not a bomb, but well, he chose hiro to go down with him should he die that night.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 23:03 GMT

#3419

On June 16 2011 07:51 stefftastiq wrote:

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no, I've said nothing about bombs! afaik - atleast I have no PM's about it

The Joker has planted a gas cannister on Mig with a 1 day timer. The Joker has attempted to kill Rean. (no bomb)

and then I got

The Crazy Cat Lady has chosen GMarshal.

oh right, my memory sucks then

I could've sworn it was the other thing.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 15 2011 23:06 GMT

#3420

I want rean and amber's input on the current plan, which is:

Shoot Cthazsha, he death vigs redFF, and we lynch Karshe if both turn up town.

GMarshal does not introduce anyone to the circle

That leaves us with

Amber
Rean
GMarshal
Stefftastiq
Palmar

if there is still a scum in this thing, then GMarshal sacrifices Stefftastiq and I shoot GMarshal

then Rean and I lynch Amber if that isn't enough.

In fact, I want everyone in town to agree to this.