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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 04 2011 03:51 GMT
#45
/in
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 10 2011 00:27 GMT
#109
On May 10 2011 08:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
This game looks like it's gonna get pretty crazy. I hope I don't get stomped


What do you have to worry about im the one whos going to get stomped T_T.

Although, I have plans...
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 10 2011 01:32 GMT
#111
On May 10 2011 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 09:27 OriginalName wrote:
On May 10 2011 08:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
This game looks like it's gonna get pretty crazy. I hope I don't get stomped


What do you have to worry about im the one whos going to get stomped T_T.

Although, I have plans...


Lol, is that a compliment?

And don't worry, you'll do fine, haha


Yes its a compliment >_>
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 14 2011 03:54 GMT
#259
On May 14 2011 12:43 chaoser wrote:
you feel like relaxing every game ace


HES POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS! OBV SCUM!

...ok not really :/
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 14 2011 16:54 GMT
#293
On May 15 2011 01:06 tnkted wrote:
I don't think this assigning roles plan is a good idea at all. Why? Because everyone at the top of the list is going to be instantly targeted by mafia. Mafia wants to kill the inventor ASAP, they want to kill the politician, they want to kill the dirty cop. Virtually every single role that town would like to grab, whoever is the first townie in line is going to get killed.

This of course means that anyone who survives the first few nights but is in the top 5 is going to be on my shitlist, unless they've survived a hit already or something. Simple reason is this: Scum is going to get in top 5, and scum is going to shoot into top 5, because one of those 5 is going to have inventor, which is by far the most OP role in this game. Especially if you're creative. immune to actions, anyone? cakebomb? free caffemetamine (extra turn at night)? Autoframe? doublekill? the list goes on. Inventor is deadly in the hands of scum and even deadlier in the hands of town.


There has been some talk about a traitor; I hadn't realized this, but bums right. Somebody is certain to be an asshole. If I had to guess, I'd say its probably going to be somebody lower down on the list, who knew he/she wasn't going to be able to get medic, and chose traitor instead.

so when draft order is revealed: medics, if you get your roles, PROTECT THE TOP 5 OR SO.


Along with this im sure somebody is going to just choose the role they want regardless of the draft order if they know the role is not going to be in high demand anyways.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 15 2011 04:23 GMT
#348
I picked [4][6]

now lets get this on like did e kong
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 15 2011 21:15 GMT
#418
On May 16 2011 06:13 Caller wrote:
either everybody's role should be public or nobody's role should be public. Giving out only half the information is just asking for trouble.

other than that i'm going to pick the biggest troll role that i can, because that's how i roll.


If I end up Vanilla I will end you Caller.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 16 2011 05:29 GMT
#457
Ok now that 48 hours of wifom is over I have a question.
Is going through pregame really worth the amount of effort over results or should we play this like a normal game?

Im going to answer this by saying: sort of.

The biggest reason behind this are plans proposed by Radfield and Batman both are basically the same thing. Pro-town plans to attempt to control roles. When has this ever worked in PYP? Never, invariably someone always effs it up. So why bother with wifom, the only real analysis done on actual people was done by Caller, so really I think our best move is to play the game like a really blue heavy normal game.

Im liable to think somebody who suggested a no-pick list is scum just because it looks towny on the outside, control is a scum style so why let them get away with it.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 17 2011 00:56 GMT
#591
On May 17 2011 09:15 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:48 Radfield wrote:
Scamp? Are you there? Anything to add to the general discussion? I'd like you to know that i'm operating under the general impression that you drafted Inventor. Therefore, if something ambiguous or anti-town is invented tonight, I'll probably push for your lynch. However, if you didn't take Inventor, it's possible you may want to state that outright.


Nothing much to add to the general discussion at this point. There's only two things I'm curious about right now. First is with all the talk about checking vote lists, did someone confirm a list check role?

Second is if OriginalName is going to ever speak again.

I'm not going to state at this point whether or not I took Inventor. Someone might steal my patents if I am. Still, if someone does invent something I doubt it'll be as obvious as a 'town-seeking missile' or whatnot.


Yes im going to speak again, just give me an hour to finish some work
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 17 2011 05:03 GMT
#635
On May 17 2011 12:29 Kavdragon wrote:
Of course now that you've made me say this my pressure will be less effective...


How so, its not like a scum player will just completely ignore you, they'd actually slip up more because their posts would be more scrutinized leaving more chances for slips to be uncovered. If you really believe a tactic is inefficent then dont use it.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 17 2011 05:07 GMT
#636
on my phone please excuse the double post.

On May 17 2011 12:54 Kavdragon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Draft Order:
1. Flamewheel [3][3]
2. Scamp [7][11]
3. Caller [10][4]
4. Barundar [13][1]
5. Radfield
6. GMarshal [17][1]
7. Deconduo
8. Foolishness[1][1]
9. bumatlarge [1][18]
10. Kavdragon [2][1]
11. Chaoser [2][2]
12. Fishball [5][3]
13. KillerSOS[5][11]
14. Eiii [6][7]
15. Infinitestory [6][10]
16. Dreamflower [4][1]
17. Mr.Wiggles [4][2]
18. Original Name[4][6]
19. tnkted [4][12]
20. Chezinu [4][x]
21. Ace [9][11]
22. Kurumi [9][13]
23. Incognito[9][1]
24. Node [9][1]
25. kitaman27 [9][1]


Is anyone else still wondering why all the 4's are behind the 5's and 6's?


Nostop changing the subject at our current view.

+ Show Spoiler +
The answer lies in how many 4s there are, no need to be dodging
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 18 2011 01:47 GMT
#774
On May 18 2011 10:18 Ace wrote:
Also these "likely town" lists are also hilarious. Fake effort all around. Managing "vote lists" by Incognito's whim. Scamp and chaoser accused of lurking, when there are blatant fishy posts in front of our eyes.

Incognito, Radfield. Flip a coin.


I like Radfield he wanted a ton of control at the start and wanted to lynh based on kp roles. KP roles intown hands can easily help make up for the inevitable myslynches.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 19 2011 03:59 GMT
#925
On May 19 2011 12:41 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 12:29 Incognito wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:21 Foolishness wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:17 Incognito wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote:
At the end of the day yesterday, I just thought Incognito had a bad case of Pyrrhuloxitis and wasn't really mafia, since to me some of his arguments against Kav were lol. So I didn't change my vote off of him until the end, but I lost track of time because I was watching proleague. Shit happens. Now I'm not sure what to think anymore. At the very least, Incog's attitude does not help the town in the current situation so I will still be voting him unless new information surfaces.

And frankly, I doubt anything new will come up. If the vote checker checks some list (as planned) would you have them claim the results even if they aren't damning? We all know mafia spread out votes as much as possible, so they will probably get a 1/5 people are mafia in one of the lists. Well big freaking deal since we got a 1/5 chance of randomly killing a mafia with a lynch anyways. I fail to see how vote checking is going to get us anywhere tomorrow. This game has lots of good players, mafia aren't going to be stupid and lose because of a vote check.

If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now. These vote checks which are going to return 1/5 are mafia aren't going to help anything until day 4 when we get a bunch more vote checks to properly nab the mafia. Game will probably be close to over by then.


So what you're trying to say, is that you will be voting me, even though mafia were uninvolved in the lynch and probably spread out their votes, which wouldn't happen unless I'm town. Congratz. I, on the other hand, think we will find out some good information tonight.

I also like how you haven't given any analysis. Congratz again. When will people stop being afraid of looking stupid and actually do something?

And you've got loads of analysis Mr "let's wait for blues to win us the game"?

Yes I do, but if nobody cares about this game, I won't bother. See, I can play this game too!

This is why I want you dead. If I came across like I didn't care about the game then my bad, but you're the one who hurt the town yesterday with your bandwagon on Kav. You're the one that needs to prove that you are useful to the town alive rather than dead (and before you say I'm useless this is about you, not me). Repeatedly telling everyone "don't worry guys...vote checks and blues gonna win this for us" is not proving yourself useful; I don't care what nice role you may have picked up in the draft.


so lynch him, problem solved.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 19 2011 04:04 GMT
#927
On May 19 2011 13:00 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 12:59 OriginalName wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:41 Foolishness wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:29 Incognito wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:21 Foolishness wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:17 Incognito wrote:
On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote:
At the end of the day yesterday, I just thought Incognito had a bad case of Pyrrhuloxitis and wasn't really mafia, since to me some of his arguments against Kav were lol. So I didn't change my vote off of him until the end, but I lost track of time because I was watching proleague. Shit happens. Now I'm not sure what to think anymore. At the very least, Incog's attitude does not help the town in the current situation so I will still be voting him unless new information surfaces.

And frankly, I doubt anything new will come up. If the vote checker checks some list (as planned) would you have them claim the results even if they aren't damning? We all know mafia spread out votes as much as possible, so they will probably get a 1/5 people are mafia in one of the lists. Well big freaking deal since we got a 1/5 chance of randomly killing a mafia with a lynch anyways. I fail to see how vote checking is going to get us anywhere tomorrow. This game has lots of good players, mafia aren't going to be stupid and lose because of a vote check.

If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now. These vote checks which are going to return 1/5 are mafia aren't going to help anything until day 4 when we get a bunch more vote checks to properly nab the mafia. Game will probably be close to over by then.


So what you're trying to say, is that you will be voting me, even though mafia were uninvolved in the lynch and probably spread out their votes, which wouldn't happen unless I'm town. Congratz. I, on the other hand, think we will find out some good information tonight.

I also like how you haven't given any analysis. Congratz again. When will people stop being afraid of looking stupid and actually do something?

And you've got loads of analysis Mr "let's wait for blues to win us the game"?

Yes I do, but if nobody cares about this game, I won't bother. See, I can play this game too!

This is why I want you dead. If I came across like I didn't care about the game then my bad, but you're the one who hurt the town yesterday with your bandwagon on Kav. You're the one that needs to prove that you are useful to the town alive rather than dead (and before you say I'm useless this is about you, not me). Repeatedly telling everyone "don't worry guys...vote checks and blues gonna win this for us" is not proving yourself useful; I don't care what nice role you may have picked up in the draft.


so lynch him, problem solved.

did you bother to look at any of the votes yesterday


Not my fault your letting obvious scumswitches get away unpunished.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 20 2011 04:48 GMT
#1090
On May 20 2011 13:33 Ace wrote:
I think IS is the only one that understands what I've been trying to say. This is just TOO convenient.


Another easy conveinience is Incogs nuke on Chezinu. He gets a suspect in a group of suspects then shoots him to mske him look pro-town despite some very convincing evidence against himself. In all honesty we are likely being distracted at the moment and should be lynching him regardless,

However we could also no-lynch and just have wiggles kill incog.

Im not quite sure who it was that said bussing is an ineffective stratagy, but i couldnt agree less however bussing is generally much better when your trying to avoid being detected in the first place. Bussing Chezinu to save Incog really isn't worth it however if it had been the other way around who knows.

Tldr: Lyncg Incog with kingmaker lynch, hes trying to save his own ass.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 21 2011 02:05 GMT
#1245
On May 21 2011 11:03 Caller wrote:
What the hell is going on

we have a list of people that we can both purge of mafia and clear

There is at least 1 mafia, maybe two, on that list. If its 1 mafia, its either GMarshal, or Mafia + a frame. If its 2 mafia, GMarshal is almost certainly not mafia, because it'd be friggin stupid for mafia to create a situation where its 2/6 instead of 1/5. There is absolutely no reason for us not to get on this list. If none of Node, Incog, and Chez is mafia (well, in addition to me, ofc) either I'm the worst player in the history of the world or GMarshal is scum. Flamewheel gets pretty much cleared that way. If only one of them is scum, then obviously flamewheel is not clear. But if two fo them are scum, and this is by far my most likely feeling, given that mafia would not do something that bold this early, then we have a cleared list of Flamewheel and GMarshal. I'm perfectly willing to die to clear off two DT roles like that, or to snag a scum DT. I'm not sure why Node, Incog, and Chez (the latter of whom is recently smelling like shit) are all running around like headless chickens trying to pass the blame onto people not on a list with guaranteed mafia as well as potential clears. Unless, of course, they're scummy. Which I think they are.

Why are people voting for KillerSoS? He's definitely scummy as shit as has been already pointed out, but he claimed Tracker. At the very least, we should let him run his mouth and see what he has to say, because we can milk him for information regardless of whether he's scummy or town. Besides, killing him doesn't tell us a single goddamn thing. If we kill scum, we should do so in a position where we can scoop up other scum in the bargain, not a lone wolf and then have to start from square one all over again.

My commitment is still pretty shitty. Someone (I think Radfield) requested a chaoser analysis so I'm working on that right now, but real life jumped on me and I'm still struggling to deal with it.

Voted Incog because we should be getting that list cleared up. We're in a position to clear people completely, and get rid of some mafia, so why aren't we using it? It'll be hard to get off all the votes on Incog right now as much as I would like to be lynched and Incog shot (to ensure my honesty), so King should use his shooting on me or Node. I don't know what role Node is, but I'm fairly expendable, and once we have a clear list we have guaranteed night actions. In fact, assuming my gut reads of flamewheel is right, and assuming GMarshal isn't lying, we have at least 1 cleared investigative role that can be saturated with protection (I refuse to believe there are no medic roles).


VI Softclaim?

I wouldn't be surprised based on Callers earlier behaviour in the pregame.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 21 2011 02:27 GMT
#1250
On May 21 2011 11:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
##Lynch: OriginalName


I love you wiggles.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 21 2011 03:12 GMT
#1265
On May 21 2011 12:07 Radfield wrote:
I have so much loathing in my heart for anyone who would pick a village idiot role Why even sign up?

+ Show Spoiler +
No offense ON, different strokes for different folks I guess


My original plan was to actually gun for one of your no--pick roles and play it by ear, but i got busy and didnt want to sub out so picked VI to still allow me to play to win. ^_^

+ Show Spoiler +
No offense taken i played like a coward.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 21 2011 03:14 GMT
#1269
On May 21 2011 12:13 infinitestory wrote:
ON counting this as a win would be like counting this as a win >


>_> Note the spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +
GO TOWN!
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 21 2011 04:27 GMT
#1309
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HOLY SHIT VER THAT PIC IS AWESOME
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