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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 23:47:30
May 03 2011 23:46 GMT
#33
/in if I can play this and the normal 30 man at the same time.

Honestly I would /out of the other one to play this one :-p
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 04 2011 01:19 GMT
#37
Horrible timing to start another game... =/
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 07 2011 07:53 GMT
#55
/in

Got mafia killed night 1
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 09 2011 02:22 GMT
#83
I'll be driving home to pack up a U-Haul that day, but I'll be fine after Friday.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 11 2011 06:10 GMT
#154
This is going to be insane, so to speak.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 14 2011 01:28 GMT
#240
Well I'm going with two mid range numbers.

Dare you to guess them.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 14 2011 03:12 GMT
#253
On May 14 2011 12:07 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 10:36 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:25 Ace wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:17 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:12 Ace wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:06 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:05 Ace wrote:
here we go again. Assigning roles before people pick. Disaster incoming.


Where exactly does this cause "disaster" to me it looks like it causes accountability for anti-town roles and only for anti-town roles.

Can you explain why its a bad idea? I'd really love to hear your input on this.


accountability? lol did you read the last 3 PYP games?


Yes, yes I did, I fail to see your point, if we know who has the PoD and we go into a double night then we vigi shoot him right off the bat, or lynch him if that isn't an option... Same with the other roles, assuming the plan is actually followed where is the flaw?

And if its not followed what do you propose? Everyone picks whatever they want? I feel like thats going to end with the mafia holding enough powerful roles to roll over us by denying lynches/converting people.


1.) Can't know if your "assigned" roles went to the right person.
2.) Won't know if the role went to town or mafia

For the chance of tying a few people to roles and not alignment you'll be giving Scum information on where the roles went. Lets not forget that unlike any other PYP game the amount of killing roles in this game are pretty high.


1.) *if* we agree to follow the plan then we will, because if they are town they will pick them, in the interest of benefiting the town, and if they are scum they don't want to be caught at a lie. And we'll be able to tell if the power was picked earlier since the person picking it will get vanilla. However I agree that this might be a weakness of the plan, is there any way to remedy it?

2.) It wont matter, if they are town they will never use the role, if they are mafia we will know if it is used, and will be able to kill them for it, thats the reason for assigning the activated anti-town roles to these players, rather than passive anti-town roles, its *really* easy to tell if they've been used.

On these people being killed by the mafia, then those anti-town roles are out of the game, rather than power roles, I dont see the issue with them being focused down.

I can't say I'm comfortable with letting townies pick whatever they want, I feel like thats going to lead to the mafia snagging powerful roles and the town overlapping too much in the role selection.

Still this plan cannot work if the people in those positions don't agree to it, so we should be in agreement before the draft order comes out.


I fell asleep reading this


Cool story bro.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 14 2011 05:22 GMT
#273
That was the most random accusation I've ever seen.

Care to elaborate?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 00:58 GMT
#330
What time does the draft order get released? I couldn't find his post.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 02:58 GMT
#333
Thanks
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 04:53 GMT
#360
I went with [5] [11]
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 06:05 GMT
#365
Wonder how many people won't get one.

Hard to guess what people will take before me
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#374
On May 15 2011 16:57 Barundar wrote:
[13] [1]

I'm in the line of fire again... god dammit.



I like how 13 was near the top. Interesting.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 16:39 GMT
#389
On May 16 2011 00:25 Radfield wrote:
NRA Member Townies should not take this role. You are far far more likely to kill a medic or dt then you are to kill a mafia member. In addition, because you cannot be checked by an investigative role, you can never become confirmed, which makes the NRA member a huge liability to town.


But I live where the NRA is huge! Always wanted to be just like my neighborers >_>
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 18:30 GMT
#402
On May 16 2011 03:29 Fishball wrote:
Don't matter.
I want to know how many, no matter the number.


Not worth an invention.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 02:27 GMT
#443
On May 16 2011 11:09 bumatlarge wrote:
If everyone followed what I said, we will have a good edge regardless of what mafia picks.



You could be mafia!

The world will never know.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 05:03 GMT
#448
On May 16 2011 13:45 infinitestory wrote:
I've received my PM.

Just a random thought: Should people claim if they asked for a role and didn't get it? (Have people done this in past PYPs?)


It would be near impossible to know if they were telling the truth.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 07:15 GMT
#468
On May 16 2011 16:12 Ace wrote:
Both of them have [9][x] so the only thing to notice is that they both picked the same number or unique numbers. Since I'm right above both of them with [9][11] it would be in his best interest to ask Chezinu what numbers he picked. That way he'd know if that him and Kurumi picked the same number (if Chezinu picked [9][11] also) or just won't know if it's unique (if Chezinu picked [9][x] or [4][x]).

Either way it wouldn't matter because nothing about number picks could tell you about alignment yet. I don't think FW noticed anything and instead was just asking what the second number pick is like all of us have been.


I also believe that clashes in numbers won't be that useful this early in the game. I'm sure that the mafia are smart enough to grab some top slots, while at the same time randomizing the other half of their members.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#509
On May 16 2011 17:50 Scamp wrote:
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On May 16 2011 17:12 Node wrote:
On May 16 2011 16:17 Scamp wrote:
Also are you suggesting we should be looking at at least one person who picked a low first number?


This looked like a more general question. Yes, I realize there's a "you" there, but a) it's relevant to how we collectively proceed and b) I don't see what you have to gain by having a specific person answer it.


I think it's fairly obvious that I have suspicions of KillerSOS so I wanted him to explain himself, is all.



I think it's fairly obvious that you are just spitting out nonsense.

Would you like to explain yourself?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 21:36 GMT
#545
On May 17 2011 06:28 Chezinu wrote:
Yeah, he should start wiggling into a dance under the spotlight.. I think that is the only way he can wiggle himself out of this one...



And people call my posts useless.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#550
He likes to lash out in fear obviously.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 23:55 GMT
#575
On May 17 2011 08:49 infinitestory wrote:
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On May 17 2011 08:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.



Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.


Is this where we're supposed to say "don't lynch him, he's the village idiot!"?

sounds more like unabated apathy to me

Deconduo, did you ask for an extreme anti-town role like you said you would?



It could also be journalist. Although I doubt it this early in the game.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 17 2011 07:19 GMT
#639
Why do people spell my name wrong in every Mafia game?

It's not Killer_SOS or KillerSoS

It's KillerSOS.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 17 2011 07:23 GMT
#641
Incog I like your sig. You've really never been lynched???
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 17 2011 07:35 GMT
#645
On May 17 2011 16:32 Barundar wrote:
Great. Now it's 10 different people.

You know if town sits and throws around random votes, mafia is going to do it as well, right?

FoS: Caller


I'm confused... did you just say you're mafia?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 17 2011 07:35 GMT
#646
Oh.. sorry Caller didn't see your post.

/facepalm
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 05:10 GMT
#823
Wow, that was a quick swap to Kav. Makes me a bit nervous.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 05:13 GMT
#829
Well that was unexpected.

..Not
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 05:18 GMT
#832
On May 18 2011 14:17 Ace wrote:
Good god. They've killed KavCaprio!



Everyone knew he was innocent in the movie!

Wait.

Scratch that.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 05:32 GMT
#846
On May 18 2011 14:27 Incognito wrote:
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On May 18 2011 14:26 Ace wrote:
On May 18 2011 14:23 Incognito wrote:
Any of the single voter lists should be investigated. M2DT should investigate the Kavdragon lynch. I'll investigate the Barundar list once Mr. Inventory gives me a list check kit.


If there is anyone that shouldn't be getting an investigation kit, it's you. You are on the Kavdragon lynch list.

And you are on the Incognito list. Who do you suggest we actually give this kit to?



What's wrong with being on the Incognito list? I don't see how Kav flipping town proves you're a townie.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 18:44 GMT
#875
On May 18 2011 22:16 Caller wrote:
Alright, I'm up. Okay, I was wrong. My bad Kavdragon. Still, we get some interesting information out of this.

In large mafia games, I've found that mafia tend not to be involved in last minute bandwagons if it doesn't win them the game outright or something along those lines. Instead, they're content to plant their vote in some corner to avoid getting list checked or whatnot, and watch as town scrambles to and fro. They find it to be too risky to stick their necks out by doing some vote switcheroo at the last minute, and combined with some other thoughts-namely, GMarshal's willingness to take a vig hit tonight, flamewheel's already strong town vibes-leads me to think that looking at the last minute bandwagon on Kev, I'm pretty sure its a red herring. Role checks should still probably go out for everyone on that list that's also on the top 6 roles (flamewheel, me, etc.) but i think trying to look deeply into the day 1 bandwagon itself is a waste of time and roles.

On the other hand, the people who DO tend to be mafia in those situations are the ones that cry "omg the bandwagon someone stop it." and then proceed to do nothing about it.

like this person
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 13:18 infinitestory wrote:
ok wtf is this

Incognito leads in lynch votes with less than 3 hours left in Day 1.

Ace unvotes Incognito, switching to Radfield.

Suddenly, 3 more votes on Kavdragon.

I feel like this is suspicious, but it also reeks of WIFOM.


or this person
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On May 18 2011 14:05 chaoser wrote:
woah woah wtf @ switch from incognito to Kavdragon.


or this person
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On May 18 2011 14:10 KillerSOS wrote:
Wow, that was a quick swap to Kav. Makes me a bit nervous.


Now obviously this isn't a scumtell by itself. So let's look at some other pieces of information. Like, the aftermath. People who are mafia tend to comment on how good their foresight was-when in fact, the only reason they had the foresight is because they know damn well who is mafia and who isn't. Someone like...

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On May 18 2011 14:13 KillerSOS wrote:
Well that was unexpected.

..Not


I was wrong about Kev, but it appears that his sacrifice was not in vain.

##FOS KillerSOS


Yeah man, knowing the lynch on Kev was wrong automatically makes me suspicious.

Or it could just make me intelligent, who knows?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 19 2011 04:13 GMT
#932
Blue Inventor down

Wonder what his invention does?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 19 2011 05:36 GMT
#979
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 19 2011 05:46 GMT
#985
On May 19 2011 14:41 chaoser wrote:
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On May 19 2011 14:36 KillerSOS wrote:
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us.


Well I can get WHY he's telling us. It's so that there's no surprises and we can control his lynch. If he claims too late then we might get suspicious. But now politician and possibly journalist can control him. He could even be red, kill someone we didn't pick, pretend he got controlled by a politician that might not even exist and then we're stuck in WIFOM and a wild goose chase. For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes.


That makes sense, thanks.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 19 2011 14:07 GMT
#1022
Is it not a safe bet to ride the "Lynch the Incog" train? He was already a high profile target Day 1 and really hasn't done anything to improve his image.

If we take what GM says at face value we are getting great odds at a mafia lynch. The only issue is that even if the lynch flips blue that doesn't prove anyone else red at this point. There are no real connections between any of those players.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#1196
Sorry guys, I've not had internet for the past two days. I just finished moving into my new house. Actually posting this from my phone as I still don't have internet and can't really read anything.... Working on putting my desk together.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 00:33 GMT
#1198
Managed to get through the last 2 pages on my horrible phone internet... If you want to lynch me it's a waste, but feel free.

I'm PYP Tracker
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 00:41 GMT
#1202
On May 21 2011 09:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 09:33 KillerSOS wrote:
Managed to get through the last 2 pages on my horrible phone internet... If you want to lynch me it's a waste, but feel free.

I'm PYP Tracker

Results of your action last night?


Ace visited Radfield.

Ace said so himself though.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 00:44 GMT
#1204
On May 21 2011 09:43 Radfield wrote:
This KillerSOS train already felt crappy anyways.

Lets either focus on Incog/Node or preferably focus on chaoser/Originalname.

No one has built an official case thus far against chaoser, but he's had a lot of defense, so I'm going to start.


It was a decent call, I've just been unable to post.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 01:06 GMT
#1214
Unfortunate that I followed Ace.

All I get told is who the player visited, unless they are vanilla mafia then I know they shot someone.

Checked Ace since he was near the bottom and had a high probability of being vanilla.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 21 2011 05:32 GMT
#1343
/sigh

come on guys. fail.

Good luck.
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