On May 22 2011 13:11 infinitestory wrote: Fishball: I think you're missing a case, where exactly one of Foolishness and Chezinu is mafia, and the mafia one has a role that induces a lot of havoc when it dies. I'm looking at the Mad Hatter in particular. Unfortunately, in this case, if we try to kill either of them, we'll have to face some serious repercussions.
Both Foolishness and Chez have confirmed the link (or at least, Foolishness has addressed it without denying it).
Well, if you're going to include that, might as well include that one of them might get bused to other players, etc.
If Mad Hatter is the case, not much we can do unless we just want to just sit back and let them live until we prove that neither of them has that role. But if they do, like I said, not much we can do if we don't have a Role Blocker. Better to kill them now, than later with 5 players left.
The bus one we can beat by speed, if we execute fast enough.
Clearly I'm just listing the most general situations. Let's not give them too many ideas, OK?
On May 22 2011 13:11 infinitestory wrote: Fishball: I think you're missing a case, where exactly one of Foolishness and Chezinu is mafia, and the mafia one has a role that induces a lot of havoc when it dies. I'm looking at the Mad Hatter in particular. Unfortunately, in this case, if we try to kill either of them, we'll have to face some serious repercussions.
Both Foolishness and Chez have confirmed the link (or at least, Foolishness has addressed it without denying it).
Does it honestly matter whether we're linked or not?
On May 22 2011 16:51 bumatlarge wrote: It's posts all the results of investigative actions last night and the way it was worded means we know exactly who is the target without saying who the DT is.
So we get GM's list regardless If he really is that DT. Pretty crazy.
Pretty cool... but this is technically a double edge sword as well. There are certain information that we don't want the Mafia to know. Depending on the results, this can be very good or very bad for us.
Regardless, what's done is done. It would suck if we only get GM's list, meaning he is the only DT left, or at the very least, the only DT that used an ability last night (which isn't likely).
If GM's list does shows up however, we'll at least know his role is legit.
On May 22 2011 17:59 Eiii wrote: ...why did foolishness not deny that he was chenzu's lover? :s
That also boggle my mind. I questioned Chezinu's announcement in my other post, but the exchanges between Chezinu and Foolishness almost convinced me that Chezinu was telling the truth. Good thing infinitestory stuck with the plan.
On May 22 2011 21:42 Caller wrote: Also, don’t’ forget that there are only 16 players left. There are 6-1=5 mafia + moles + traitor(?). Let’s say for convenience sake there is 1 mole and 1 traitor, so its 9 against 7.
I had the same idea early in the game, and was already corrected by others. The 6 Mafia includes the Mole(s), so worse case scenario if we have a Traitor it is 10 vs 6.
On May 22 2011 23:57 Foolishness wrote: I didn't really confirm I was Chezinu's lover. And actually I denied it more than confirm when I said it wasn't going to save "him" from dying.
And as I already stated, who cares if I was linked to Chezinu? We were going to kill him anyway; me denying or confirming would have only been a distraction to the town.
I wouldn't risk that. There is still an off chance that your average Townie could have shot you instead of Chezinu. His entire announcement post was an attempt to bus you, claiming that he is likely to be protected and we should kill you instead.
Regardless, your alignment is not necessarily in the clear.
I was the first one to vote for Caller in the voting thread. It was late at night, and I just wanted to throw my vote up first. To be honest, I do have mixed feelings towards voting for Caller, but I also don't see why I shouldn't vote for him, since he is the last person on the list.
Right now, I'm mainly waiting for Ver's post on the Police Radio. If GMarshal's list comes up, I'm inclined to believe he is legit and will be likely to go through with my vote on Caller; Unless something else comes up from those checks, or I just simply decide to change my mind for a "better candidate".
If the Scum don't have a Roleblocker and didn't know Radfield was BP then why wasn't he hit? Get it now?
Either they already knew he was BP or he's Scum with an alibi for not getting hit while all the other top picks except Caller did get hit.
To be fair, not necessarily.
On Night 1, Mafia was clearly gunning for the top 2. FW took a hit, Scamp died. Then me and you had a conversation regarding Radfield's role. If the Mafia didn't figure that he was the BP, they might want to risk to take a shot at him.
If you're Mafia yourself, the Mafia would have known he is BP anyways. No I'm not going head over to WIFOM land with you, but you get what I mean.
Right now, besides Caller, this is my pick. I'd like to think at least two out of three here are Mafia.
And also I will have to confess, I am not really the watcher the radio will show that, but I can explain if you want me to. Otherwise, I'd rather keep my real role a secret.
Pfft, we already know he is the fucking Batman. Nothing new.
On May 23 2011 05:41 bumatlarge wrote: I lied about being watcher because I had the town cred to do so, and I could prevent mafia from making abnormal fakeclaims. Threatening with information would help scare mafia. But my actual role will be more helpful. I dont have anything everyone doesn't already know, but maybe after tonight I can provide a service in the form of KP to town. I have my targets in my scope, I just need to figure out how to pull the trigger...
GM and myself are pretty reasonably town. I'll let caller and fishball argue about how they got framed. We got a nice free lynch on tnkted, and we also know we have a lovely amount of DTs. Glad our town is smart. Mafia couldn't have known about the radio and tnkted had no reason to be covered while not on the last list iirc?
Easy peezy. Also infy's same thing is interesting. Hopeful that cop is getting good info.
So apparently Admiral Akbar's collateral damage includes actions performed in both Day and Night cycles on the target. Although I did not interpret it as a "full cycle", and I can't say that I really agree, I don't see myself being revived by the host, so bon voyage people.
On May 25 2011 13:35 Ver wrote: Wait, something's not right here. My bad, we planted that evidence on him. Ace the Mafia Capitalist was killed in the name of justice.
Your dull reactions suck! Carry on with the day as normal.
Only BC figured out it was a joke, mocking Bang Bang Mafia. I only recognized the "I only talk with my guns" quote, but nothing else. I don't think you should expect other players to figure it out, especially when some of them were never in that game the first place
I was talking to others for the past few days. We all agreed that if Foolishness isn't the Traitor, he really played a garbage game. It almost feels like a different person.
GM being alive this far is like screaming I'm the Mole, but no one noticed until the very very end. Qatol already pointed out why, so I won't be following up with all the small details.
After Day 4, some "facts" that were used by the remaining players on analysis were just false. That made me cringe. Good thing Radfield was able to pick up most of the "common sense" from there. I just hope he can doubt himself less after making a statement throughout the game.
On May 29 2011 14:33 Qatol wrote: The biggest hit the mafia took was nobody selected traitor. Honestly, Ver and I balanced this game around an assumption that traitor would be selected (considering it was picked by multiple people in both PYP2 and PYP3).
I thought about it, but it is less appealing in this game, and is harder to be recruited.
On May 29 2011 15:08 Fishball wrote: I was talking to others for the past few days. We all agreed that if Foolishness isn't the Traitor, he really played a garbage game. It almost feels like a different person.
GM being alive this far is like screaming I'm the Mole, but no one noticed until the very very end. Qatol already pointed out why, so I won't be following up with all the small details.
After Day 4, some "facts" that were used by the remaining players on analysis were just false. That made me cringe. Good thing Radfield was able to pick up most of the "common sense" from there. I just hope he can doubt himself less after making a statement throughout the game.
On May 29 2011 15:08 Fishball wrote: I was talking to others for the past few days. We all agreed that if Foolishness isn't the Traitor, he really played a garbage game. It almost feels like a different person.
GM being alive this far is like screaming I'm the Mole, but no one noticed until the very very end. Qatol already pointed out why, so I won't be following up with all the small details.
After Day 4, some "facts" that were used by the remaining players on analysis were just false. That made me cringe. Good thing Radfield was able to pick up most of the "common sense" from there. I just hope he can doubt himself less after making a statement throughout the game.
EPT
If he really is that DT. Pretty crazy.
Otherwise, I'd rather keep my real role a secret.
