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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#814
suspicious are the votes on KD. I can always switch back to Incognito. I took it off because of his point about KD being timid which was justified.

Actually yea. I'll switch back to Incognito since Radfield has 0 chance of being lynched.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:10 GMT
#824
So you made a "case against Ace" followed with this:


I feel like Ace is being useless, but at this point I don't think that he's mafia.


All you did was add an extra post to the game. Oh my bad, and also threw GM under the bus, even though in that same post you called his play pro-town.

Conveniently you ignored the other people that voted for you. Once again, "seeing things that aren't there". You remind me of Leonardo DiCaprio in Shutter Island. In fact - you're no longer Kavdragon. You're Leonardo KavCaprio.

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Academy Award for best bull bullshit performance: KavCaprio

Academy Award for best posing job as a Townie while being Scum: Incognito

Academy Award for most awesome player of all time: Ace (unanimous votes)

Academy Award for best portrayal of batman: bumatlarge Chezinu

Academy Award for best ways to shit up a thread and start random wagons: Radfield

Ladies and Gentleman! The Teamliquid Awards winners!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:12 GMT
#828
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Johnny!

We got some scum in the woods!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:17 GMT
#831
Good god. They've killed KavCaprio!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:26 GMT
#839
On May 18 2011 14:23 Incognito wrote:
Any of the single voter lists should be investigated. M2DT should investigate the Kavdragon lynch. I'll investigate the Barundar list once Mr. Inventory gives me a list check kit.


If there is anyone that shouldn't be getting an investigation kit, it's you. You are on the Kavdragon lynch list.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:28 GMT
#841
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:39 GMT
#848
On May 18 2011 14:30 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:28 Ace wrote:
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.

Anyone is not a good answer. Name someone specific please.


Don't feel like it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#873
On May 18 2011 19:57 Radfield wrote:
Ace, your attack of the Barundar train is silly given the fact that Kav flipped town. Basically what you're saying is that Barundar was an easy target for mafia to lump in on. That makes no sense, since they(we) were given an excellent opportunity to vote for Kavdragon instead, who flipped town. Anyone who needed a place to vote could have been 'persuaded' to vote Kav at any time.

Now, that being said, the Barundar vote was the initial 2nd choice to voting for Incognito, so if by chance mafia were attempting to save Incog, then Barundar would have been the place to vote. However, if you're looking at votes to save Incog, it's the three that came down the stretch for Kav that did it. NO votes came down the stretch for Barundar(except for Foolishness, a valiant effort, but a failed one).

Bumatlarge. Where were you(I don't mean this literally)? You vehemently defended Kavdragon early on, but completely disappeared for 6 hours, despite the heat growing considerably on him, only to pop in 1 minute after the day post to apologize. You never once pushed for Barundar, a player who was a viable alternative to Kav.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Are you guys honestly trying to pin this as kav's fault? You guys are all awful, Im 100x better then all of you. Excuse me while I net us some scum.

No need to be aggressive when you did so little to stop it from happening. In other news, I look forward to you netting us scum.


No, it's very valid. There has not been one credible argument against Barundar. Ever. Just because KavCaprio flipped Town doesn't mean Barundar is Scum. The Barundar train was terrible, just stop trying to pass it off.

As for the bolded don't try and say "this is what you were saying". It wasn't. If I wanted to say it or imply it - I would have said it. Barundar and KavCaprio could both be innocent. Then what? Why would the mafia have to be "persuaded" to do anything? It's two innocents. As long as no mafia die there isn't any WIFOM there. It makes excellent sense.

You and Incognito are the top 2 suspects. One for the KavCaprio lynch, the other for the Barundar train. This "Barundar was an alternative lynch" spiel is utter garbage. Show me just ONE credible case against him.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 00:59 GMT
#911
On May 19 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 19:19 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Incog, you fooled me the first game I ever played. I was sure you were pro-town, but instead you dominated town, took control, and lead mafia to victory with about 5 members left over. Something flamewheel hosted... XXI maybe?

+ Show Spoiler +
In that game you died day 1. Don't think there was too much fooling going on there. Either way if you look at that game I'm playing wayyy differently.



Ace and Foolishness don't deserve medic protection.

Whoever is the Bullet Bill should check Eiii or Chaoser.

Also reading over Radfield and Barundar's posts, I agree with the thesis that neither of the lynch candidates are mafia, and that the mafia probably wasn't heavily concerned about the lynch. This makes vote list checks that much more useless. I propose that Scamp give a gunpowder sniffing kit (that works like Bullet Bill) to someone instead of a vote list check kit. Individual checks are probably better right now than blanket checks. Besides, Mafia XII GF is the only mafia GF that can evade a BB check. Making bulletproof vests is useless. Its not like the inventor will even be able to guess who to give it to correctly.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 01:39 Ace wrote:
On May 18 2011 19:57 Radfield wrote:
Ace, your attack of the Barundar train is silly given the fact that Kav flipped town. Basically what you're saying is that Barundar was an easy target for mafia to lump in on. That makes no sense, since they(we) were given an excellent opportunity to vote for Kavdragon instead, who flipped town. Anyone who needed a place to vote could have been 'persuaded' to vote Kav at any time.

Now, that being said, the Barundar vote was the initial 2nd choice to voting for Incognito, so if by chance mafia were attempting to save Incog, then Barundar would have been the place to vote. However, if you're looking at votes to save Incog, it's the three that came down the stretch for Kav that did it. NO votes came down the stretch for Barundar(except for Foolishness, a valiant effort, but a failed one).

Bumatlarge. Where were you(I don't mean this literally)? You vehemently defended Kavdragon early on, but completely disappeared for 6 hours, despite the heat growing considerably on him, only to pop in 1 minute after the day post to apologize. You never once pushed for Barundar, a player who was a viable alternative to Kav.

On May 18 2011 14:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Are you guys honestly trying to pin this as kav's fault? You guys are all awful, Im 100x better then all of you. Excuse me while I net us some scum.

No need to be aggressive when you did so little to stop it from happening. In other news, I look forward to you netting us scum.


No, it's very valid. There has not been one credible argument against Barundar. Ever. Just because KavCaprio flipped Town doesn't mean Barundar is Scum. The Barundar train was terrible, just stop trying to pass it off.

As for the bolded don't try and say "this is what you were saying". It wasn't. If I wanted to say it or imply it - I would have said it. Barundar and KavCaprio could both be innocent. Then what? Why would the mafia have to be "persuaded" to do anything? It's two innocents. As long as no mafia die there isn't any WIFOM there. It makes excellent sense.

You and Incognito are the top 2 suspects. One for the KavCaprio lynch, the other for the Barundar train. This "Barundar was an alternative lynch" spiel is utter garbage. Show me just ONE credible case against him.


This is townie Ace who's too proud to do real analysis, or this is mafia Ace. The problem with Ace this game is that while he has been active in the thread and pushed an agenda, he hasn't taken the spotlight. He's piled everything up on me, and is content to sit back and yell the Incognito is scummy mantra. Ace isn't scumhunting. He's trying to lynch obvious townies who are just a bit out there. Ace is acting irrationally while trying to appear rational. He has a gun, so nobody's going to want to argue with him. Right?

kitaman, please tell me why deconduo is confirmed anti-town


Who's acting irrational? You were on the wagon of a confirmed innocent and flip flopped on Day 1. Stop it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 01:08 GMT
#912
On May 19 2011 09:21 Foolishness wrote:
I would put $100 on there not being any vote checks tonight. I'd also put $500 on Inventor not inventing a vote check kit or a bullet proof vest.


why so lurkish Foolishness? Dead Townie Day 1, vote switching, shit plans - and you don't have anything to say? Please tell me you're just bored
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 04:23 GMT
#937
We've got a problem here.

Radfield according to your breakdown of "strategy" earlier in the game you were supposed to pick up Vote Rigger.

But I checked you out last night and you aren't the Vote Rigger. I won't announce the role you have, but it is concerning you didn't follow your own plan.

Explain.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 04:30 GMT
#939
ooooooo my now things are getting interesting!


Incognito is still going to get lynched, but somebody screwed up. Flamewheel isn't the problem here though. Something is off between Radfield and deconduo.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 04:36 GMT
#943
*nods in agreement*

I had to put my gun on hold last night because I talked to myself and said "wait, the unRadfield/Incognito duo would try and pull some slick stuff!"

and they did.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADFIELD! WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 04:37 GMT
#944
On May 19 2011 13:35 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 13:30 Ace wrote:
ooooooo my now things are getting interesting!


Incognito is still going to get lynched, but somebody screwed up. Flamewheel isn't the problem here though. Something is off between Radfield and deconduo.


I was just about to follow up with my quote, that there is a possibility that the post Radfield made on page 45 was "a play".

I won't say it out loud on what I'm thinking right now, but Ace, if you're on the same page based on your check results, you should know what I'm talking about.


you're 100% correct ^_^

talk about "telegraphing" huh? lol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 04:43 GMT
#951
On May 19 2011 13:41 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 13:36 Ace wrote:
*nods in agreement*

I had to put my gun on hold last night because I talked to myself and said "wait, the unRadfield/Incognito duo would try and pull some slick stuff!"

and they did.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADFIELD! WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Wait, you didn't shoot one of them because you thought they would try to pull something tricky? Well, it makes the game more fun I suppose.

Alright--let's figure out why there were only two shots. Obviously, Scamp was killed. I was shot. That's 2 KP for Mafia. First off: was anybody else shot? There are too many roles in this game, and I don't think that Mafia only have two bullets per night.

Next, if there is indeed a copycat, he needs to claim--considering he's the new Inventor. Considering the whole point of discussing inventions was to try to control the Inventor, if there is another one I want to know who it is, for obvious basic accountability reasons.


Yea. The way they behaved Day 1 they both played "risky" by their own words because imo they felt invincible. Waiting for Radfield to answer why he didn't pick up Vote Rigger.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#971
On May 19 2011 14:11 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:55 Fishball wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:47 flamewheel wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:43 Foolishness wrote:
if copycat is in the mafia hands, as everyone expects, they aren't going to claim

Duh. I'm saying if the copycat is town he needs to claim. If not and inventions still flow, then it's just one more piece of the puzzle that becomes known.


Not necessarily. If the Copy Cat is Town and claims, unless we're going to devote our resources and protect him 24/7, he would likely die.
To be honest, I don't have a solid solution for this either, but just throwing it out there.

We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know.


That doesn't mean anything though. They could be mafia, name something the vote check kit and actually it checks votes for blues or specific roles and such. Copycat should straight up claim if he's town since mafia killed Inventor, meaning they didn't get the Thief role so they can't steal it again from the CC. I say CC/Inventor claims, builds something we tell him to, and then we decide whether we want to protect them or not depending on who they are. Mafia is forced into a WIFOM situation and even if they do shoot inventor, it's fine since we shouldn't be relying on the inventor anyway. His invention names can always lead to ambiguous situations and we would end up discussing them too much and lose sight of scum hunting.

I'm also interested in Radfield's Non-Vote Rigger Pick.

@Mr. Wiggles....so if there's a politician they can just buy your lynch now?


That's my only issue with him announcing he got King'd. Scum Politician is pretty dangerous.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 05:38 GMT
#980
On May 19 2011 14:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 14:18 Ace wrote:
On May 19 2011 14:11 chaoser wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:55 Fishball wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:47 flamewheel wrote:
On May 19 2011 13:43 Foolishness wrote:
if copycat is in the mafia hands, as everyone expects, they aren't going to claim

Duh. I'm saying if the copycat is town he needs to claim. If not and inventions still flow, then it's just one more piece of the puzzle that becomes known.


Not necessarily. If the Copy Cat is Town and claims, unless we're going to devote our resources and protect him 24/7, he would likely die.
To be honest, I don't have a solid solution for this either, but just throwing it out there.

We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know.


That doesn't mean anything though. They could be mafia, name something the vote check kit and actually it checks votes for blues or specific roles and such. Copycat should straight up claim if he's town since mafia killed Inventor, meaning they didn't get the Thief role so they can't steal it again from the CC. I say CC/Inventor claims, builds something we tell him to, and then we decide whether we want to protect them or not depending on who they are. Mafia is forced into a WIFOM situation and even if they do shoot inventor, it's fine since we shouldn't be relying on the inventor anyway. His invention names can always lead to ambiguous situations and we would end up discussing them too much and lose sight of scum hunting.

I'm also interested in Radfield's Non-Vote Rigger Pick.

@Mr. Wiggles....so if there's a politician they can just buy your lynch now?


That's my only issue with him announcing he got King'd. Scum Politician is pretty dangerous.


Or I could be lying to see if my vote changes later in the day and tells us there's a scum politician present. Or I could be telling the truth and I'm worried about kingmaker/politician mafia combo. For now we'll see how people act when offered the potential for a double lynch.


Which would be secondary to the fact that the Scum have an untraceable day kill.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 05:42 GMT
#982
Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 05:45 GMT
#984
I read it. You know I'm down with it homie.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2011 06:03 GMT
#989
If you're calling IS's post a bus attempt then you're accusing him of being Scum. Is that the angle you're playing Caller?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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