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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 15 2011 16:58 GMT
#390
wait, nvm, re-read how assassin works, they can't write GREEN name
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 16 2011 10:12 GMT
#484
Therefore I'm going to scope out suspects based on small posting with a clear sign of having interests elsewhere during the drafting and role picking stages.

I'm more used to chaoser and deconduo being much more active, regardless of alignment. These two are PMing, or on some IRC/forum chatting it up with scumbuddies about what their schemes are. I'll be putting my vote on chaoser.

##Vote Chaoser


My interests are currently with interviews so you'll have to excuse me the last few days. Last interview will be on Tuesday so I will be 100% free after that. That being said, I was busy talking with tnkt about the impending rapture on TLMafia IRC last night so thats my scheme =[ to survive it.

http://www.raptureready.com/

Here, you can be ready too.

##vote GMarshal. Y U SAY CHUIU JACK IS PROMAFIA?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 16 2011 17:20 GMT
#506
On May 16 2011 23:41 Incognito wrote:
Whoever is the vote rigger should rig the votes into 4 sections of roughly equal sizes. Try to spread out the people with the same numbers onto different lists.


Well first I think, before the vote rigger does this, the day they want to change he vote, they should claim in thread if they're going to do this. Second, I think just randomly making lists isn't that great a plan. Instead we should wait till we have a suspects list and then do a regular vote while moving the people we suspect onto a separate person/vote. We either catch a few mafia or check some people. That being said, we should be wary of roles that can cover themselves which I want to ask Ver about:

Which roles won't get caught by a votecheck?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 16 2011 19:27 GMT
#513
Chaoser- this might seem OMGUS, but his vote on me is entirely out of character, chaoser never just goes for an "easy" vote, yet he jumped on me for what I see as poor reasoning, something is off


I just did this in XXXIX on Irish lol...why all the sweating? People place votes on people all the time. Look at Incog's on Kurumi. I didn't even attach a reason behind my vote, a mere meme was written. How can you see poor reasoning when there is no real reasoning lol? Overreaction much?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 16 2011 19:34 GMT
#516
you even hosted XXXIX...you said before that it was due to poor reasoning, but now you've changed it to lack of reasoning, which one is it? You've played with me before to know when I actually vote someone I try and make a case against them, not just "Y U SAY CHUIU JACK IS PROMAFIA?"

Kinda weird that you would think it's anything but pressure
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#548
so you move from KillerSOS being just a lurker and vote for him:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973&currentpage=27#534

but then you think dreamflower is lurking scum and don't change your vote?

Are you doing this because Qatol isn't here to protect her? =D
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 00:12 GMT
#580
On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.



Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.


My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through.


Just cause you don't have a role doesn't mean you can't still be pro-town =[
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 01:44 GMT
#601
On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?

Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow.


I noticed it too but before that I wanted to ask. Before you said you saw something that made you unvote incognito. But then you voted him again. Want to share what it was or is it a need to know basis?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 02:22 GMT
#609
self-stafficide
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 04:05 GMT
#629
In general i think that only mafia have something to fear from people applying pressure, as townies will be judged by their reactions. Incog telling pointing fingers and telling FW to nuke is exactly the sort of thing that generates discussion and information on people. For instance, if me and incog start pressuring a townie (esspecially if there's not a much of a reason to) and someone else jumps on, then you've just got your self someone who's looking awfully scummy.


While pressuring is pretty much the best way right now to go about getting people to talk, it's not really pressure when you try to work 4 different people at the same time. Information doesn't come out of that, confusion and multiple people responding to that fingering pointing does.

Oops lolol I wrote this up, went to boil some water for tea, and forgot to post lol
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 19:23 GMT
#693
INTERVIEW DONE! Went pretty well I would think. Will be reading to catch up yo.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 17 2011 22:44 GMT
#714
On May 18 2011 07:13 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 07:07 Chezinu wrote:
On May 18 2011 07:02 bumatlarge wrote:
Woah chez I read those games again, you have to PM me to tell me how to properly play like your mad right this instance.

Whos got the good role foolishness? who are we killing that isnt useless. People lynch useful people and its like "oh why you do that he so townie" and then we lynch nobodies and its like "oh why him obvious townie"

Screw it all chaoser is scum. Im leaving my vote on and if you want to lynch scum you'll help me. He's not posting like hes blue because its PYPInsane; you dont get to be able to have that excuse. He's scum. I'd love to analyze him but all his scummy posts are discussing what he can do with his scumbuddies to win the game in one night.

You need to invite me to your treehouse first.

+ Show Spoiler +


Back to business, Chez you really think node is scum?


Woah...that is epic. Incognito is probably the best vote for today. Mass finger pointing, trying to contribute but not contribute, etc. etc. Sticking my vote on him.

##vote: Incognito
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 05:05 GMT
#820
woah woah wtf @ switch from incognito to Kavdragon.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 17:31 GMT
#874
Time constraints aside (and he hypothetically made time to 'catch up' on the thread after he announced the completion of his interview), this isn't the Chaoser from XXXVIII. He's not being inactive; he's lurking. And all good marines kill lurkers on sight.


Sorry sorry, I had a few things come up that I needed to take care of and so although I said I was going to catch up, I didn't quite do it. I wasn't even able to write up a day/night post for the mafia game I was cohosting with GM so that should say something about that. That being said, I am now actually free and so will catch up and write up something by 4-5, you can hold me to that one.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 20:38 GMT
#879
Ok, so here's my thoughts on the vote-rig/list check plan:

It's a horrible plan. I was kind of getting to that point in my previous posts and that's why I asked Ver for what roles doesn't get caught by it. Assuming mafia has at least 1 mole and they picked up at least one godfather, possibly the Mafia XII Godfather then we have three people that won't be caught by check lists. All this focus on this plan is detrimental to town since we'd probably lose two or three days just getting the lists checked, arguing over if there was covering or not, and tunneling lists where there's actually no mafia, just a frame or cover. There are serious problems to the plan, and so incognito's post:

To all of you voting me, just think how I could possibly be mafia for a second. I come out and post about the vote rigger/list check combo, that apparently nobody else was even thinking about. There is absolutely no reason for me to do this as mafia.


isn't the complete truth since mafia can easily control how the plan would play out.

I don't understand the sudden change from Incognito to Kavdragon. We started off by saying that incognito was acting scummy cause he was pointing fingers everywhere but then all of a sudden that accusation was moved onto Kavdragon. I read Caller's post and while it's true that mafia have no need to take risks, it's not like Incognito took risks right after coming out of the gate. It was only after a bit of pressure was put on him. His later posts are a lot better and I do concede the point that mafia don't want to be front and center but if they ARE front and center, what better way to deflect suspicion than to acknowledge it and then play off it.

Weren't Kavdragon and chaoser having an argument about 24 hours ago? I seem to remember the two of them taking up ~3 pages of posts.


The only person I had an "argument" with is GMarshal and that was cause I fake pressured him that he thought was real pressure. He ended up handling it well in the end but he's still on my watch list. His last minute change to Kavdragon doesn't help get him off said list.

Read up to page 41. Will finish in a bit
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#880
On May 18 2011 14:02 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 11:57 GMarshal wrote:
On May 18 2011 11:43 Incognito wrote:
So what you're trying to say is: you're ignoring my analysis because you don't like the way I'm playing. Oh wait a second, thats what you did last game! And you turned out to be mafia. Please don't disappoint me. I've posted analyses on Kavdragon here and here.


I'm ignoring your analysis of Kav, because as I said its all based on meta considerations. While those are nice to supplement already solid analysis they are a bad thing to base your cases exclusively on, as peoples attitude and style can change from game to game. As I read it your analysis boils down to "he played more aggressive last game, he isn't as aggressive this game". The only thing that might sell me on that lynch is the fact that he isn't pressing any of his accusations, he fingerpoints and then doesn't push for that targets lynch, which, *independent* of meta consideration is a trait of mafia who look to be contributing without contributing. Especially considering all the time he had to "gather information", however I don't think that that alone is damning enough to push for his lynch (and before people say that that's what I did with df and killerSOS, I left killer to the vigis, and am not going to push df and thus derail what seems to be a decent selection of lynch targets).

I'm not ignoring your arguments, just saying that in my mind they don't seem to be that solid, come back with posts that show pushing for mafia objectives or a non-town mindset behind them and I'll get behind the kavdragon lynch, but you are going to need something more solid than "he is playing different" to sway me. Ace plays different every game, do we lynch him for that?


This turn around is BS.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 12:45 GMarshal wrote:
Fuck it, I read callers argument against Kav, and I think its the most solid piece of analysis in this thread, no meta considerations, just behavioral analysis. And frankly it makes sense...

Here's hoping that Caller isn't mafia and is just swaying my vote. If you are town, I apologize profusely Kav, nothing sucks more than being the day1 lynch, but it needs to be someone and the case against you makes sense to me. Plus we need to consolidate our votes, we are far too spread out at the moment.

##Unvote
##Vote: Kavdragon




Agree with this post btw.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#881
Oh, and at the people saying they are disappointed at my play/inactivity so far, all I can say is my bad yo. I thought I was set up for a research position but then the NIH was like no more funding for you lawl! and cut grants so I've been scrambling to find research positions. I think I did pretty well on my interviews so I'll have more time now that I'm not so busy anymore. (Though I might only be posting intermittently on Saturday since I will be going to my undergrad to see my underclassmen graduate.)
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 22:37 GMT
#883
all this switching of time zones is confusing, what is that in EDT? x_x
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 18 2011 23:20 GMT
#890
If you look at the people pushing for me to get lynched I would guess its nearly all townies. Mafia would want someone else lynched as lynching me doesn't help them at all. They would be pushing for me to get shot during the night.


wut lol. How does that make sense at all? Why wouldn't lynching you help mafia? That's a whole day wasted + night actions for them? They don't care if a townie is lynched or if a VI is lynched? Obviously they prefer the townie/blue role over the VI but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter? Like kita said, fail post ;_;
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 19 2011 00:52 GMT
#908
It's pronounced chow-ser. Like Bowser but not. Or you can be like fucking RoL and call me chaos-er.

Putting that aside, why don't we make an x-ray machine or something that can be used in conjunction with a vote-check/alignment check that gets rid of covers and such.
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