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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 02:26 GMT
#1300
He came back as Mafia Goon.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:05 GMT
#1337
lol...boom goes the dynamite

On May 09 2011 06:01 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
@redtooth: Your argument seems to rely heavily on Cthsazsa popping red. Are you pushing chaoser because you think he is scummy, regardless of what Cthsazsa flips, or because you want to tie him with Cthsazsa when he flips? Since you like your percentages, how sure are you on Cthsazsa and chaoser, respectively?
Chaoser likes percentages (at least high number percentages). I don't want to make up arbitrary numbers so I'll list stuff in the order of which I'm most confident in to which I'm least confident in.

Most confident
  • Kita, DropBear, Forumite town
  • Irish town
  • If Amber town, Chaoser scum
  • If Cthsazsa scum, Chaoser scum
  • Cthsazsa scum
  • Amber town
  • Chaoser scum

While my argument doesn't "rely heavily on Cthsazsa popping red", that is the ticket to a surefire read.


So do I get a sorry now redtooth?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:12 GMT
#1347
Ok, so here's why I pulled my plan and claimed so late. As you all can see, the votes between Cth and Amber was pretty fucking close just before my claim, which people bumping Amber further ahead near the end. What does this mean? This means mafia was resisting Amber's lynch as hard as fuck. That means probably anyone who voted for Amber[light] to get lynched is townie. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I am pretty sure. That being said, there's going to be a lot of mafia on the Cthsazsa vote list. And I'm going to point out a few of them:

On May 09 2011 08:50 GMarshal wrote:

Cthsazsa (10)
Conversion
redtooth
Varpulis
ilovejonn
Forumite
Lyter
kitaman27
GGQ
AO
Eternalmisfit

Amber[light] (6)
chaoser
sandroba
chaos13
Kenpachi
Mig
orgolove


And also Sinani


Chaoser's Mafia List:
Irish
Amber
sinani
ilovejohn
GGQ
EternalMisfit

I will explain why each of them are as such
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:25 GMT
#1354
Sinani

I've had suspicions of Sinani since Day 1.


On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote:
OK, back from practice.

+ Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +

He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.


+ Show Spoiler [Chaoser] +

Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.


+ Show Spoiler [Jackal58] +

Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.


+ Show Spoiler [Irish_Punk13] +

May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.


+ Show Spoiler [AirbladeOrange] +

Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.


+ Show Spoiler [Cthsazsa] +

Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.


+ Show Spoiler [Forumite] +

Very analytical, no aggressiveness.


+ Show Spoiler [Others] +

Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!


In this post, he says nothing. He gives out a fucking opinion on everyone that any one opinion means little to nothing. But not just that, he also is very wishy-washy. Everything is pretty much "I have nothing to say". What's suspicious is that the post seems like it's very big when really it contains almost nothing. He then says the AO is "very suspicious" and that he found no one else "suspicious". Yet in his next post, which he doesn't even try to explain in thread, he just votes in the voting thread, he votes Kurumi, someone he hadn't mentioned. When I call him out on it, he gives this gem of an analysis:

Very analytical, but at the same time, very aggressive. He doesn't give up. This causes me to believe he is a member of the Mafia. I will be voting for him today,


He calls AO "very suspicious" and he calls Kurumi "very analytical" but for some reason he votes kurumi? Doesn't make much sense. He then continues to one-line his way to 20 posts.


On May 08 2011 23:51 sinani206 wrote:
Lyter
chaos13
kevconsim
Takuna
Beneather

This is the list of people that have not contributed to day 2.
At least some of the scum must hide in the inactives.
Kevconsim was a replacement for Rising_Phoneix, who did not even vote on day 1.
Rising_Phoenix is an extreme case of inactivity, which is a scumtell.
Kevconsim has inherited his role and is doing the same thing.
This is VERY suspicious.
As such, my vote is for kevconsim unless he starts posting some useful stuff and voting.

##Vote: kevconsim

Who do you think is scum, kev?


His next important post is this one, just a few hours before the vote. He says that scum are hiding in the inactives and then gives shit reasons for voting kevconism. He could be dumb town but not even Cthsazsa was this dumb. He needs to be prodded to contribute more and also to be kept an eye on. There's townie-dumb, and then there's mafia pretending to be townie-dumb. There's no way someone is this dumb. Especially with the "6 people switch votes? there are 6 mafia!" post.

I will check him and hopefully come back with results tomorrow morning.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:26 GMT
#1355
the next one is GGQ, the main suspect I have
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:37 GMT
#1358
GGQ
Mr. 11 posts has now become Mr. 14 posts. And they are filled with such gems as:

On May 05 2011 12:47 GGQ wrote:
Kurumi's style of willfully posting nonsense reminds me of only one other player I've ever seen; serejai from last game. I shot serejai and he flipped mafia. I suggest lynching Kurumi.


This is only making it worse. You've addressed the accusations. If there was no weight behind them, then just move on until they accuse you with something new. Try to scumhunt instead of defending yourself. Only scum worry about defending themselves. Town worry about finding scum.


I'm saying you were using the same scum strategy; post nonsense and act like you have no idea what's going on so people will just ignore you. It worked for Serejai last game; he avoided a lynch until I shot him (I was a vigilante). I'm not a vigilante this game, so my only way to kill you was to vote for you.


This post rings some bells in my head. There was no need for a PbP analysis here, you just needed to tell Lyter to post more and explain his vote. Doing a PbP in this instance feels like an attempt to gain townie cred for nothing.


Also, to a large number of people in the mafia forum: the word 'weary' is not the same as the word 'wary'. To be 'weary' means you are tired or exhausted. To be 'wary' means you are cautious or on your guard. Thank you.


aidnai has a good analysis of GGQ's points:
GGQ's point about serejai is moot. There are key differences between these cases -- serejai was a hardcore lurker, kurumi is quite active; serejai was (and is) a big troll and is also demonstrably quite clever as seen by his posts elsewhere on the site, kurumi that I know of has no history on this site to make a similar conclusion; kurumi has been interacting with the thread, addressing current issues etc, serejai only did this on perhaps one occasion. There is also the language issue that makes kurumi's posts seem stranger than they actually are.


GGQ then comes in late to push Cthsazsa's lynch and while other's did as well, his reasons were non-reasons. Before the Amber vote gained much steam, he writes:

Cthazsa seems to be a lot quieter now than he was on the first day, and I can't explain why. He responded with lots of posts to jackal's pressure, but now he's gone afk because of the pressure today? Maybe just because he's now a viable lynch target? His actions seems scummy enough, but I never got that vibe from his posts. I'd like to see an analysis by someone I trust more than redtooth showing him as scum.

Amber seems the scummiest to me from his posts so far, but there just aren't that many of them.


But later he writes

I like Amber's defense a lot more than Cthsasza's. Amber's a player we'd actually like to keep around for future days.

Overall, though, I just have a very 'off' feel about this game.


Your analysis was completely circular.


Cthsazsa contributes nothing of value, failing to provide any defenses for his scummy play. He flounders around sweating under pressure, not sure what to do. Meanwhile Amber provides a solid defense explaining all his actions in depth, which no one has refuted, and he has the stronger case?


Yeah, both me and sandroba refuted it. And guess what, Amber flipped red! Yay! GGQ, you're a vet, I've played with you before and you contribute and FoS and all that good stuff. You have not done so this game. You have actively tried to move a lynch off Amber onto Cthsazsa with shit reasons and it ended up not working. GG Scum
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:42 GMT
#1360
Actually I take back what I said about ilovejohn, he seems townie enough in his posts so far, I don't remember why I felt red about him. Maybe a misplaced feeling.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:47 GMT
#1362
I will look over Eternalmisfit tomorrow. So I guess my scum list is currently

Scum List
GGQ
sinani
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#1363
I'm much more sure of GGQ compared to sinani though, I might be wrong on him cause there have actually been people as non-thinking as him, even in this game. Hopefully I can share my check tomorrow.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:55 GMT
#1365
Oh, and people I 100% think are town
Sandroba
Cthsazsa
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 03:55 GMT
#1366
Ok, i suggest a hit on eternal then.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#1371
kenpachi is like one of those kids with mental disorder. He's cute in his bumbling but at the same time, we all pity him =[
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#1376
Why wouldn't I just let Cthsazsa get lynched, he'll flip green, and then I can be like AH HA! YOU ALL WRONG and then ride the amber bus for another day. Then I can say lynch redtooth, lynch lynch Forumite, etc.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#1381
lol there's multiple DTs in this game/we don't know how many there are elmizzt
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 17:35 GMT
#1411
got finals today, hopefully i can post before 11
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#1422
It's not as easy as making a fake DT claim and lead us off the right track. They'd have to back up their DT check with actual analysis plus at this point no one would actually claim DT since there's no reason to. Finally if the person they claim is red is lynched and flips green or blue, we just caught a mafia? It's not like we take every claim at face value
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#1439
lol, what up town
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 03:38:24
May 10 2011 03:25 GMT
#1451
"Because sometimes the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes, people deserve more."

Glad my fake claim worked.

Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 10 2011 06:23 GMT
#1465
lol
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 10 2011 07:56 GMT
#1474
[astral voice]psht, there's only 3 mafia left[/astral voice]
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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