EPTBut I am going to vote for sinani mainly because I think sinani still looks scummy from the previous day. I don't think much has changed for him and I am not completely sold on ilj's or orglove's guilt yet.
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But I am going to vote for sinani mainly because I think sinani still looks scummy from the previous day. I don't think much has changed for him and I am not completely sold on ilj's or orglove's guilt yet. | ||
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Pretty obvious now that sinani's big post was coached. After that failed to convince everyone I think mafia mostly gave up on saving him. So we need to look closely at the people who voted late for him, redtooth and jaminez especially. | ||
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But first I want to give big props to chaoser who correctly called irish,amber, sinani and GGQ as mafia. What a monster. | ||
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On May 15 2011 16:31 DropBear wrote: If this is the case and the only blues left are veterans, why wouldn't they want to claim? A) If they did it unopposed, noone would lynch them. B) Mafia having only 1 KP means they would have to kill other people. That way the pool of suspicious people shrinks. How is anyone going to oppose them? What is to stop mafia from claiming veteran? There is no way we can know how many veterans are in this game so it would be incredibly easy for mafia to claim them. And we want mafia to hit the veterans..... This should be obvious. If they hit the vets they lose one of their kp. If we announce who our vets are the mafia will know which players they should avoid killing. | ||
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Redtooth - He originally pushed extremely hard that Cth was mafia and tried to link him to chaoser as mafia as well. His voting has been completely useless. Day1 he voted for chaoser when he obviously wasn't going to be lynched. Day 2 he voted for Cth before switching to amber after the dt claim. Day3 he voted for himself pointlessly. Day 4 he was the very last person to vote for sinani and he didn't even bother posting in the thread about it. I guess he might just be a demoralized townie after every single thing hes done has been incorrect but I feel like he might have decided to just lurk after all his plans fell through to try and avoid attention. I also think hes a good candidate for GF. Orgolove - Voting he voted for kurumi day 1. Day 2 voted amber which makes him look a bit better. Day 3 voted for ilj pointlessly even tho he was around and could have cast the deciding tiebreaker voter. Day 4 once again voted ilj and not scum sinani. Has overall been very unhelpful to the town and his comments about gmarshals last day post are suspicious. Gmarshal has been trolling the entire game it should have been very obvious his post was fake I think orgolove reacted to it just so he could use it as a possible defense (which he did the very next page). Also since he is one of the few remaining veteran players hes a good candidate for GF. Forumite - pushed the sinani lynch harder than anyone. This alone should pretty much make him auto town. Varpulis - pushed the lynch for sinani very hard early on. He flip flopped a little on day4 but still ended up voting for sinani. chaos13 - has been on the correct lynch everyday except for the first. Voted for amber and sinani twice. And he pushed a lot for sinani in the last couple days Unsure Kita- Has been on the right side of almost every lynch and I think most of the things he has said have been very helpful to the town. The only reason I don't put him under green is because he is one of the last vets who I think could possibly be the gf. Still I would definitely lean towards him being town. DropBear- Has been on the wrong side of several lynches. He also tried to start up a ilj bandwagon/defended sinani today and was on a sandroba bandwagon for awhile. But he did vote for sinani late in day3 which he def gets big +town pts for. Also I think its clear he is at least putting a lot of effort into attempting to analyze and generate discussion. There was also the slip where he said he pmd ver for coaching advice. ilovejonn- has been on the wrong side of every lynch except for today. Sinani seemed to try and get a bandwagon started against him which gives him some town pts, but it still possible that he was mafia and they were just trying to get him town credit. He is another possible gf candidate. Leaning towards red. Impervious- Haven't had the time to look through his posts but sandroba felt strongly he was mafia so has to be suspected. We have the best case against jaminz because of his voting and the strong analysis kita did of him. He should be our lynch target for today. | ||
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On May 16 2011 15:11 Impervious wrote: ilovejonn is showing up on a lot of different scum lists, and was on chaoser's scumlist. His list proved to be crazy accurate so far, so I don't think that ilovejonn would be a bad lynch for today. Chaoser's scumlist actually hurts your argument since he said he went back over jonn's posts and didn't find them very suspicious. | ||
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Redtooth - He originally pushed extremely hard that Cth was mafia and tried to link him to chaoser as mafia as well. His voting has been completely useless. Day1 he voted for chaoser when he obviously wasn't going to be lynched. Day 2 he voted for Cth before switching to amber after the dt claim. Day3 he voted for himself pointlessly. Day 4 he was the very last person to vote for sinani and he didn't even bother posting in the thread about it. I guess he might just be a demoralized townie after every single thing hes done has been incorrect but I feel like he might have decided to just lurk after all his plans fell through to try and avoid attention. I also think hes a good candidate for GF. Orgolove is very suspicious. It especially doesn't feel right to me that on day3 he was lurking and could have given his opinion and vote to decide the EM vs sinani lynch but didn't. So if people wanted to vote and lynch him I would have no problem with it. Impervious- rising phoenix's posts were suspicious, sandroba seemed 100% sure he was scum, pushed for em and defended sinani and overall his posts just seem a little off to me. I went back and reread jaminz's posts and his long posts do make him look a bit more town. I am still suspicious of him for still contributing very little overall, and while he may have just voted at an unlucky time it is still extremely suspicious that he was the one who saved sinani on day3. So my top 3 lynch candidates would be red/orgolove/impervious. After them I have a 2nd tier consisting of jaminz/ilovejonn/AO. | ||
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So right now I am leaning more towards orgolove being an unhelpful townie more than scum. The only evidence I have for this is basically meta game so I don't think he should be completely cleared, anyone who has contributed that little to town should be under suspicion, but I think it would be better for us to go after more suspicious targets tonight. I am going to vote for jaminz. He has contributed very little even though he has shown in previous games to have the ability to analyze and help the town (similar to amber and GGQ). And his last 2 votes were the final vote that led to a townie being lynched. | ||
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AO elmizzit/db/orgolove I am most suspicious of AO who has contributed pretty much nothing and has been on the wrong side of a lot of votes. The others I am conflicted about. Also I wouldn't put too much stock into impervious martyring himself to save orgolove. What impervious did was incredibly stupid. He sacrificed a confirmed townie (himself) to save someone he really couldn't be 100% sure was town and by doing it he didn't even clear orgolove. Already this game at least 4 people have asked to be killed when under target (EM, ilj, orgolove, impervious). If you are town just defend yourself, panicking and asking the town to kill you doesn't help anyone. | ||
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On May 22 2011 12:12 chaos13 wrote: Alright, I'm down to AirbladeOrange, Ilovejonn, and orgolove as candidates for my vote today. The post ilovejonn just quoted makes me think that Forumite hadn't yet checked orgolove, and that he hadn't actually checked a scum. If I was a DT and checked a scum player, I would be pushing for their lynch as hard as I could, complete with full analysis of those players. I will go back through his posts and find any that might be referring to a DT check. I disagree because forumite voted for him 2 days in a row. So he had one night that he could dt check someone in between his votes. For him to vote for him twice in a row I think he almost certainly checked him. I think forumite was just trying to not to push too hard and tip off he was a dt which would lead to him being killed. | ||
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