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redtooth, my issue was less with the possibility that you were smurfing, and more with the contradiction between this post where you claim to have been gone from the mafia forum for a year:
On May 04 2011 16:46 redtooth wrote:
I've been gone from mafia forum for over a year now. If they're recent, I definitely didn't play in them. If they're not, I simply don't remember. The only smurf game I played was the invite-only one waaay back where I got policy-lynched for inactivity since I didn't realize the game had started (I still maintain that it was the host's fault for not alerting me on my main acc haha).
and these posts, where you post in the mafia forum as recently as 2 months ago:
On October 24 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:
vote HeavOnEarth
On April 04 2011 18:20 redtooth wrote:
can we wait til insane 2 ends? then i can be in this one =)
On March 15 2011 05:31 redtooth wrote:
can i /in?
i haven't played a game in so long.
is playing in 2 concurrent games still allowed?
not the item game btw.
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Good luck chaoser and redtooth with your studies! 
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On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather
This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind.
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On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in...
Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything.
And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in?
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On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red.
Then why did I stick out to you?
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On May 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:52 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you? Because I'm looking for scum. Are you concerned about sticking out?
Make up your mind. Am I doing a "to good job blending in" or sticking out?
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Just got home right now. Switching to amber with 2 minutes left :o
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On May 09 2011 11:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Damn you mothers day!
Terrible analysis by the town. No wonder you were pushing bullshit for the last few days.
Chaoser and Sandroba, not actually good at scumhunting. Remember that town.
/wave byeeee
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On May 09 2011 14:08 chaos13 wrote:
I can honestly say I didn't expect Irish to flip red, but I guess I got an opinion in my head and stuck with it. Sucks that both (I'm assuming there are two, seems overpowered to me otherwise) day vigis were modkilled, but it helps that we got two scum.
I can't promise to be any more active from now on than I have been already, but I will try to pop in to do some analysis whenever I get the chance.
As for chaoser being roleblocked/medic protected - what is to stop scum from blocking him every night and hitting other targets, and being sure of medic-free kills every night? They can stop a DT check and get 2 kills every single night.
I would like to propose a ridiculous theory, please tell me if it's possible and/or complete garbage.
chaoser is scum. He knows the roles of his scumbuddies, and decides to announce DT and that he checked Amber last night, seeing that there was already a good number of votes for that player. Further, he gets his scum team to switch votes from Cthsazsa to Amber, and then declares that there must be a good number of scum hiding in the Cthsazsa votes. Even better, he is guaranteed that medics will waste themselves on protecting him every night, and he can claim roleblock and not be worried about not providing results for further days, and he can also rest comfortably knowing that if someone tries to accuse him of being scum, he can turn it on them and blame them for trying to accuse a DT.
This is something of a ridiculous conspiracy theory feel to it to me, but I felt it should be put out there anyway.
That's garbage because if chaoser isn't DT, and claimed it, then the real DT instantly knows he is scum.
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On May 09 2011 14:29 chaoser wrote:
lol there's multiple DTs in this game/we don't know how many there are elmizzt
You're right, I forgot. Still, for the other reasons stated, we love you
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about time someone paid attention to me! I was feeling unloved :o
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:
On elmizzt
I know we are focusing on the three others, but I'd like to bring an extra one to the table. There has been some interaction between him and EternalMisfit.
Can you explain the interaction between myself and EM? I think you either forgot to add that part, or you mistyped.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Voting pattern: Day 1 votes redtooth Day 2 votes Beneather, then the last person to switch to Amber[Light]. He has played one previous mafia game in which he was a mafia goon, Surprisingly normal mini-mafia 1. First up, an early defence of Irish_Punk13. Note that it is a subtle defence, not an outright one. Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 14:48 elmizzt wrote:On May 04 2011 14:46 orgolove wrote:
Is Irish a new player? Could make sense if he's new - he wouldn't want his first game end so quickly. Irish seems like he's claiming to be a pretty experienced player, what with him linking to a Mafia group outside TL that he is a member of.
I'm not sure how you interpreted my post as a defence of Irish. Orgolove posited that irish might be a new player, hence his overreaction to chaoser's early poke, which I responded to by mentioning his previous experience playing forum mafia. Seems to me that would make the evidence against Irish more incriminating, not less.
Well, to be fair, Csthazsa was being quite belligerent. If you read those posts in their context, it's easy to see where they came from. I mean, come on..."lurking scum isn't a threat". lol
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Here is the explanation for his vote on redtooth. It comes with an interesting exchange with kitaman27. Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:40 elmizzt wrote:On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:Redtooth He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote:
@orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote:
##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. I haven't forgotten about redtooth's dodge of the proof that he was lying either. I'm putting in my vote for him unless he posts an explanation. More on redtooth
Ok...you keep linking posts of mine, but you don't say anything about them. What exactly is interesting, or sticks out? Are they suspicious to you or what? and why?
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Here are some of his explanation for voting for Beneather: Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:54 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:52 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:
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Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:
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Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you? Because I'm looking for scum. Are you concerned about sticking out? Make up your mind. Am I doing a "to good job blending in" or sticking out? This exchange is very odd. I'd like the opinions of others on it. How could he think that posting less is sticking out, yet he is pushing Beneather for not posting much? No opinion of the lurking of Amber is given.
If you read the context of the posts, you can see that kitaman was making empty posts, and I was trying to focus his posting. He insinuates that he is concerned at my low post count, while at the same time claiming I am blending in too well. Obviously, if I stuck out to him due to my post count, I couldn't be blending in well... perhaps this needs further clarification, let me know if this doesn't make sense to anyone.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:In surprisingly normal mini, he pushed another inactive player as a lynch target. Also note that many of his posts are one-liners, another trait he displayed in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia.
Sure, my posting style is similar to my posting style in mini mafia, but your conclusion is missing the data point of my posting style in the case that I am confirmed town.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:CONCLUSION
elmizzt defended Irish_Punk13 covertly at the beginning of the game.
elmizzt has directly attacked Kurumi and Beneather who have flipped town. He also heavily went after Cthsazsa who at this point is almost definitely town.
He waited until the last possible moment to switch to Amber.
His posting is very similar to how he was Mafia in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia 1.
He is contributing very little, mostly one-liners.
He has a very strange explanation for his lack of activity.
I think he is worth looking at as well.
EternalMisfit is next on my analysis list.
So, in response to your conclusions:
1. misinterpretation
2. true, but at that point he wasn't "almost definitely town"
3. ok lol don't see how this is relevant at all. mafia and town would both react the same in that circumstance
4. bad conclusion
5. same as 4
6. ? I think you forgot to put this in, or i missed it? clarify plz
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On May 10 2011 17:36 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 17:30 DropBear wrote:On May 10 2011 17:28 sandroba wrote:
If anyone is not convinced needs further analysis to vote for EM I will provide, but if you just look carefully at the analysis EM posted of me you can see how much bullshit it contains.
I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself
In the second = others
That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it. Can you link me to his analysis of you please? No, you are mafia.
LOL
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Wait, why did redtooth vote for himself? lol 
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On May 12 2011 01:56 sinani206 wrote:
I am really confused about everything that is going on. I have been reading the thread, but it is hard to understand something as unorganized as this. Maybe I'm missing something?
I am not sure who to agree with. All of the accusations make sense.
Eternalmisfit seems like he could be Mafia, and there is definitely good evidence to prove this.
Ilovejonn claimed townie and seems suspicious, however he was also the one that first FoS'ed EM.
I admit that my accusation of Kevconsim was quite stupid, reading back a few posts, but again, I hadn't seen the post about his emergency when I posted that accusation.
Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia.
lol obvious scum post
+ Show Spoiler +also, sc2 mafia....
autovote.
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On May 12 2011 12:17 sandroba wrote:
elmizzt has been posting like a madman all over tl except for this thread.
I wouldn't say posting like a madman. I'm posting about the same as I always do. Maybe slightly less than average even, cause I've been missing alot of streams live
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Nothing new has really popped up...I'm sticking with my same vote. This pretty much says it: On May 12 2011 09:25 Varpulis wrote:EBWODP: I agree with you, but if you could please elaborate that would be great. + Show Spoiler [Sinani206's scummy post] +On May 12 2011 01:56 sinani206 wrote:
I am really confused about everything that is going on. I have been reading the thread, but it is hard to understand something as unorganized as this. Maybe I'm missing something?
I am not sure who to agree with. All of the accusations make sense.
Eternalmisfit seems like he could be Mafia, and there is definitely good evidence to prove this.
Ilovejonn claimed townie and seems suspicious, however he was also the one that first FoS'ed EM.
I admit that my accusation of Kevconsim was quite stupid, reading back a few posts, but again, I hadn't seen the post about his emergency when I posted that accusation.
Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia.
It's scummy to me because Is Sinani winning the vote now? With elmizzt I think it's 7-6 in favor of Sinani, with EM as a close second. Am i wrong?
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[QUOTE]On May 15 2011 14:19 orgolove wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +Here's the spreadsheet with updated vote results. http://uploadmirrors.com/download/LFRNBCMK/TL_mafia_xxxix_day_4.xlsxFirst, the criteria again: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ivzZj.png) Day 3 was another really important vote, in hindsight, as sinani206 was revealed to be a red. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bE3v0.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/na9FI.png) Day 4 didn't bring too many changes. Though the vote was close at the start of 12 hours, it was more because the reds didn't have the manpower to switch the lynch, rather than there being actually two contested results. And the data shows that. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0KqkS.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e7zuY.png) + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ruJel.png) How did it feel, having to choose between two of your own? lololol Of course, in red's point of view, it'd be better to lose the new player whose every action had to be directed, and save the vet who could, given a miracle, survive... (ha) Here's the summary. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GeFlM.png) I have more confidence in this, as it compiles 4 days of data, instead of just 2. But again, because I revealed the methodology before this, it is not completely impossible that the reds tried to coordinate and manipulate the procedures. I'll see about tweaking the factors the next time I play mafia. To me, the data clearly shows that ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are the remaining two reds.
Look dude, I appreciate your efforts with this statistical analysis, but the bottom line is, there is no way the conclusions can be accurate. Beyond the influence of intentional red manipulation, you simply don't have enough data to go on. Your sample size is pitifully small. It's not your fault, just a symptom of the game. It is far more beneficial to reach conclusions based on post content.
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On May 16 2011 17:31 DropBear wrote:Ok while I'm waiting for AO's response I want to bring up another point about him. Kenpachi was obviously killed due to him being a confirmed innocent. However there is another possibility, he pushed on AO on Day 4. Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:
K. i dont wan tto kill sinani anymore. hes being stacked on way too fast in the past couple of hours. i say we kill AirbladeOrange.. Post sinani206 lynch: Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 03:29 Kenpachi wrote:
That Summary is a bit butchered because Medics most likely exist.
Lets study the Mafia List
GGQ - Roleblocker
Amber[Light] - Goon
sinani206 - Goon
Irish_Punk13 - Goon
Now then, through my inexistent humble insight, i believe the other two mafia are well experienced players. Why? well, 1 of them is the Godfather which is GOING to be top tier in the mafia. The Goon that is left is most likely experienced because of the Mafia META.
You would never put more newbies that experienced players in the mafia due to heavy imbalance.
Our prime suspects are..
redtooth
ilovejonn
impervious
airbladeorange
hey theyre all experienced. Either redtooth or ilovejonn is going to be the godfather because i believe they are the 2 most experienced of the 4 Pressure vote on AO from me.
What would be AO's agenda in killing off Kenpachi based on that? Revenge? I think you're reading too much into that. It was simply an easy kill to give no info, a delaying tactic by the last red because he feels no pressure from town.
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Where the heck is redtooth, anyways? Really wondering about his unexplained sudden drop in activity. Say something to set our minds at ease, redtooth!
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On May 15 2011 12:37 orgolove wrote:Btw varpulis, if I really was red, then I would've known that sinai was a red. Given that, would I really have posted the following, right after the first fake day post? I'd be proven immediately wrong, in fact, within 5 minutes. Would I really have purposefully put in that position? Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:01 orgolove wrote:
Fun. As I said. You will all eat your words when the game is over. Sigh. So pathetic. Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:03 orgolove wrote:
Anyway. The post won't change anything. You just lynched a green. And the reds know it, and are probably laughing their asses off right now in their IRC or quicktopic.
Read: Mafia trying wayyyyy too hard and sticking out like a sore thumb.
Voted orgolove
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