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+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 08:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:27 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:15 Forumite wrote:
I´d like to chime in a bit. To me it looks like primarily the ones below are suspected at the moment:
Kurumi
Irish_Punk13
AirbladeOrange
I have one problem with this, that they are voting on eachother, meaning that they are probably not all Scum. Below are the posts from these players that I found in the voting thread, with the newest post highest.
Kurumi:
#Vote Irish_Punk13
Irish_Punk13:
##Vote AirbladeOrange
Kurumi:
#Unvote Irish_Punk13
#Vote AirbladeOrange If anything that indicates AO is town. It's much too early to start analyzing voting patterns. If Punk is scum he will broadcast it to anybody and everybody as he continues to post. He really sucks at playing scum. I think atm the reactions of both Punk and Kurumi is just noobs. Was Punk scum in the game you hosted jackal? I asked for the link to try to compare playstyles, but no one ever posted it.
I was the co-host. But yes. You will have to join the site to see it.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 08:30 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going.
Excuse me? I guess I misunderstand your meaning of inactive.
I thought inactive is pretty self-explanatory. They're not actively participating in this game of Mafia, as I stated right after what you made bold in my post.
Why are you so quick to point fingers and call me out as scum? You totally ignored the topic of my post, and instead exaggerated a few words to make my post appear misleading and anti-town.
No I won't excuse you. The only people that would ever post scum aren't a threat is scum. Inactive scum/lurking scum/1000 posts per day scum. I don't care which variety you fall into. You're scum.
I didn't have to make your post appear anti-town. You did that all on your own.
Scum love letting inactives/lurkers hang around. We lynch while bored/stupid townies get mod killed. Hey its a two for one sale down at your local scum shop.
Who is on your 2 fer menu today Cthsazsa?
You're scum.
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On May 05 2011 08:42 Cthsazsa wrote:
Nice conclusion there, Jackal. Very intelligent.
If you wish to call my intelligence into question I'll get really sad.
Lynching you will raise my spirits though.
Sorry dude but everything in your post pushed a scum agenda.
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On May 05 2011 08:48 Cthsazsa wrote:
It's kind of funny how extreme you're acting, because of a simple misunderstanding. Quick to accuse and very stubborn about it.
Ya I kinda have a reputation around here for that. I'm also well above 60% in accuracy.
You're scum.
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On May 05 2011 08:56 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:48 Cthsazsa wrote:
It's kind of funny how extreme you're acting, because of a simple misunderstanding. Quick to accuse and very stubborn about it. Ya I kinda have a reputation around here for that. I'm also well above 60% in accuracy. You're scum. I'm also wondering why you haven't voted me yet.
Because we have 30 hours left. Much more fun to keep you squirming.
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On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 09:00 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:56 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:48 Cthsazsa wrote:
It's kind of funny how extreme you're acting, because of a simple misunderstanding. Quick to accuse and very stubborn about it. Ya I kinda have a reputation around here for that. I'm also well above 60% in accuracy. You're scum. I'm also wondering why you haven't voted me yet. Because we have 30 hours left. Much more fun to keep you squirming. I bet that's very entertaining.
Your response to being called scum is almost identical to CubEdin's response in 35.
Nonchalant. A prove it kind of attitude. Work on it. Right now you're scum dude.
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On May 05 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 09:19 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 09:00 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:56 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:48 Cthsazsa wrote:
It's kind of funny how extreme you're acting, because of a simple misunderstanding. Quick to accuse and very stubborn about it. Ya I kinda have a reputation around here for that. I'm also well above 60% in accuracy. You're scum. I'm also wondering why you haven't voted me yet. Because we have 30 hours left. Much more fun to keep you squirming. I bet that's very entertaining. Your response to being called scum is almost identical to CubEdin's response in 35. Nonchalant. A prove it kind of attitude. Work on it. Right now you're scum dude. Except there's nothing to prove. It was a misunderstanding between the meaning of inactive and lurking. You can quit trolling me now.
I'm not trolling you. And it has nothing to do with your definition of lurking/inactive. It's all about your assertion that we have nothing to fear from inactive/lurking scum.
Scummy.
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On May 05 2011 09:29 chaoser wrote:
One day I hope I get to be tunneled by Jackal lol
Your day will come padawan.
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At least spell my name right.
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On May 05 2011 10:08 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 08:39 Jackal58 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 08:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:27 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 08:15 Forumite wrote:
I´d like to chime in a bit. To me it looks like primarily the ones below are suspected at the moment:
Kurumi
Irish_Punk13
AirbladeOrange
I have one problem with this, that they are voting on eachother, meaning that they are probably not all Scum. Below are the posts from these players that I found in the voting thread, with the newest post highest.
Kurumi:
#Vote Irish_Punk13
Irish_Punk13:
##Vote AirbladeOrange
Kurumi:
#Unvote Irish_Punk13
#Vote AirbladeOrange If anything that indicates AO is town. It's much too early to start analyzing voting patterns. If Punk is scum he will broadcast it to anybody and everybody as he continues to post. He really sucks at playing scum. I think atm the reactions of both Punk and Kurumi is just noobs. Was Punk scum in the game you hosted jackal? I asked for the link to try to compare playstyles, but no one ever posted it. I was the co-host. But yes. You will have to join the site to see it. Do you have a link? -_-
http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/ultimate_mafia/forum/68791/
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On May 05 2011 10:12 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:02 KillerSOS wrote:On May 05 2011 09:57 Mig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 09:50 VarpuliS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 09:45 KillerSOS wrote:
chaoser
He has been sitting back after his initial strong posts. I think he knew he brought suspicion on himself with his original long posts. I know he is a long time player and he seems to be careful to not be in the front of any debate. If I had to vote for anyone I would vote for him atm.
Chaoser has been very pro-town in his posting across the board. Being super-vocal day 1 is a sure way to get killed night one. It's the players who haven't posted any real content that we have to worry about. I agree with varpulis here. And I would add I think it would be a pretty huge mistake to vote for chaoser on day1, unless we had some really damning evidence. He was one of the best players in the last TL mafia. It would be too big of a risk to potentially lose one of our best players unless we were very sure. I'm not saying I am going to vote for him, just saying to me he has had the largest jumps in posting history and it show'd up on my nooby radar. This may be due to real life commitments, it's impossible to tell. Please don't misrepresent me lol. TL Mafia XXXIX 44 69 73 90 102 121 140 203 208 211 226 242 246 267 283 284 291 295 297 310 312 341 342 345 349 350 351 362 368 452 467 I feel like my posting has been pretty consistent. I had a final from 4 to 6 today that I already mentioned and aside from those 2 hours + time I spent previous to get to the test room and go over the material with friends, there has been no "jump". I have a 84 post "jump". There are players who have way larger "jumps". Get your facts straight buddy. That being said, I have no qualms with anyone bringing a good, well thought-out argument and discussion to me about my play an alignment. It's very important to not get complacent with trusting one guy and depending on one leader.
You can "pro town" town right into a mass grave.
That's not an FoS. That's simply a warning to everybody here that hasn't played with you before.
And now that I think about it I did tunnel you in XXXVII. You scummy bastard.
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Of course I had help from Ver.
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Stop for a second guys. Everybody that has been placed on your individual scumlists are pretty much noobs. If you think Node put together a scum team of all noobs you need to rethink who you are pushing.
GGQ where are you?
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On May 05 2011 22:25 Kurumi wrote:
You can't just forget about my earlier mistakes and carry on,that would be suspicious and weird.
Now You have a strong case against me while I have no idea how I should deal with besides TRYING to make some analysis. Scum won't make mistakes now or theirs will be a really small ones just to make sure I am dead. I tried making myself easy Day 2 lynchto try to reveal Scum,but I pushed it too hard,thus it is highly likely I will die this Day 1.
I will be back in around ten minutes and then I will start writing some helpful analysis I hope.
I think I will focus on Sandroba,he's my favourite player so far,never sleeping Sherlock Holmes!
Why would scum want to kill you? Scum never kill townies they think they can get lynched. Scum never kill scum at night. Either scenario. Your choice.
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On May 05 2011 22:39 Kurumi wrote:
Jackal58 I know it makes no sense because it is complete opposite what I meant.
I will be killed either today or tomorrow by lynch,unless I pull out some newbie miracle
Start by doing some analysis that doesn't include poetry or numbers. Stop making useless/pointless posts. Step up your game man. But if you are lynched and flip town bear in mind that many of those that voted for you are scum. That in and of itself helps to provide a baseline of sorts to do future analysis with.
You are right though. Your first posts will stay with you for the entirety of the time you are in the game. Are you a townie that realized your own self-destructive/town destructive behavior or are you scum that got bitch slapped in your scum channel?
I'm leaning towards the former but both are possible.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 06 2011 00:30 chaoser wrote:@redtoothExcept I have focused on him? There's a certain thing called reading the air. I've already posted my thoughts on Irish, barely anyone responded to it and everyone seems to find it better to lynch Kurumi. I already consider both of them to be scum based upon behavior (Kurumi says to stop talking about me and 100% supports a lynch of Irish, AO accuses Kurumi, Irish comes in and chainsaw defends Kurumi with AO, Kurumi IMMEDIATELY switches votes onto AO) In this situation, whether we vote Irish or Kurumi, doesn't matter since 1) Both of them are acting scummy 2) Both lynches will be telling of the other person's alignment. The reason I push Irish's lynch is because I am more confident about his lynch over Kurumi's (70% sure vs 60% sure). Go reread KillerSOS' posts. People think he is scummy because of his line "Why would I want to be lynched, I don't want to die." Go reread his posts and decide if he's just a simple newbie or red. Either way, we can discuss his lynch tomorrow, after the night. About Irish. At the end of the day, whether you think he is mafia or not, he hasn't come back yet to defend himself at all. He has yet to explain his "Kurumi has made excellent analysis statements" and he has yet to explain his quick sudden suspicions onto AO. He literally popped in, said almost nothing, and then hasn't posted since. You're damn straight I find that scummy as fuck. I quote this line way too much but Ace, when he was helping coach Team Melee said: Show nested quote +Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?
On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. About Kurumi. Kurumi is tied to Irish and you can see in his crazy convoluted posting that he's still trying to push the lynch off Irish. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 21:55 Kurumi wrote:
It flipped so wrong,but so good after all.
My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. That's ok. About my hyperactive posting:
I was really pumped out for my first Mafia game on TL,don't get me wrong but I wanted to flip out as best as I could,horribly failed though.
The biggest concern now is that I generated some kind of defence for Irish_Punk13 which was not my intention,also I got connected with him.
Even if You lynch Irish and he flips out Mafia I am DEAD.
If You lynch me,I am DEAD.
Who else can You lynch?
Well,entire society is now focused on me,Irish,AO.
It is very easy to make another same analysis post about how my or those two posting was,just take a note that does not certainly mean someone wants to help You,but just to show that Mafia cares to lynch someone who isn't them.
My derail wasted a lot of Your time and I am sorry for that,I might meant it,but I did not think that it would turn out to be discussion number 1.
Bandwagon is ready Scum,buy Your tickets,I am already cursing at You. No where in that post does he address the Irish issue. He doesn't explicitly defend him but he does insinuate that both of them are town. He passes off all the conversation on them as "scum forming an easy bandwagon". He states: Show nested quote +I tried making myself easy Day 2 lynch to try to reveal Scum,but I pushed it too hard,thus it is highly likely I will die this Day 1. but previous to this stated: Show nested quote +My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. So did he PLAN to act as an easy target to draw mafia out to band wagon him or was it just mistakes? He's wishy-washy here. Either state that your posting was planned all along or that your posting was "mistakes", stick to a statement, not both.
Could be all that. Could be just overwhelmed noobs. If Irish is scum he'll out himself. Cthsazsa already has. His response to my poke was over the top and quite extended. His post I poked him about was a pure scum agenda.
His response was pure scum response. He constantly evades the issue I poked him on and shifts it to a not 'knowing the definitions of lurker/inactive"
That's not the item in his post I FoSed him on and I told him that. Yet he still tries to deflect back to that issue. He's scum.
I am voting for him and urge you all to do the same.
I may not be back before day is over. I have to travel to Dallas. So I make my vote now.
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On May 06 2011 00:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 00:38 Kurumi wrote:
Redtooth
The plan was to make me an easy target for bandwagon,sadly I made some mistakes thus making me VERY easy target to bandwagon a day before I wanted it to happen.
The Irish thing is just a lie repeated by someone I'd need to look for.
My vote for Irish was just a blind vote for a person who came in,left us for a while,call it a poke or whatever. When he came back not only he started contributing so I could unvote him for now,but AO jumped with his "Dead townie good townie" thing. Who did you want to look for from the "Irish thing" that was a lie? First you say you were using it to look for someone and then you're saying it's a blind vote. Why did you wait a full day to reveal that you had this plan? Why do you consider your actions a mistake? Like you supposedly wanted, a bandwagon formed, so what was the mistake? What are you opinions on Irish saying that you had put forth good "analysis" when you hadn't yet?
I would like to see an answer from both of them on this.
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Well can't say that result was unexpected... we all pretty much agreed that he was just a noobtown.
Oh well.[/QUOTE]
If we were all in agreement he wouldn't be dead.
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On May 06 2011 23:18 sandroba wrote:
The list argument is pretty dumb. If I were mafia I would NEVER want to see kurumi dead. He was basically doing mafia's job for them. He was spaming the thread, creating a lot of confusion and posting a lot of nonsense. There is no way in hell you could know for sure kurumi was town unless you were mafia. My suspicions are on the people who came to his defensess for no reason, because he was "obvtown". Seriously, you guys must be on a whole other level, because calling kurumi obvtown is like calling a rape a beautiful act between two people in love. Give me a break.
But as town you wanted him dead? But if you were scum you would never want him dead? But as town you did? But as scum you wouldn't? So since you voted for him you're obviously town right? Because obvscum would want him alive? But you have no problems with voting for obvtown?
It's not rape. It's surprise sex. Enjoy it scummy.
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First chance I've had to read this since my post this morning. I got as far as Redtooths requirements for FoSing somebody.
Sorry dude. I'm not filling out a form letter to satisfy your ego. Don't like it. Lynch me.
I may not be able to go through all of this before some time on Sunday. I'll be reading but I probably won't have much heart to put into it for the next day or so. My dad is dying and my thoughts and duties are with him and my family atm.
Don't replace me Node. This is my distraction from the real world.
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Alright then. A little free time.
Chaoser/Redtooth - 1 of them is scum. Would be worth a lynch of Chaoser and if he does flip green vig Redtooth. I'm leaning more towards Chaoser being the scummy one.
sandroba - scum
GGQ - scum
Cthsazsa - scum
Eternalmisfit - scum
Chaos 13/ Irish Punk 13 - Leaning much more towards Irish. He's a very active player. Now absent.
That's the way I see it at the moment.
Sorry if I didn't submit the correct form. I couldn't find a "Tunneling Request" form
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