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On May 04 2011 23:31 DropBear wrote: I am unfamiliar with the following names and would like to know if people think they are smurfs: eternalmisfit varpuliS sinani206 elmizzt Lyter Takuna Cthsasa Node, this may seem like a question with an obvious answer, but can a Day Vigilante be roleblocked? It's pretty good for us if not. Chaoser is quite active so far and his history has been that he is much more active as town than mafia. I don't think he is worthy of suspicion as yet. Waiting on a reply from AO. Kita has still not replied to chaoser. eternalmisfit varpuliS elmizzt The ones above are new, and played in the Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia I, along with me. | ||
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Kurumi Irish_Punk13 AirbladeOrange I have one problem with this, that they are voting on eachother, meaning that they are probably not all Scum. Below are the posts from these players that I found in the voting thread, with the newest post highest. Kurumi: #Vote Irish_Punk13 Irish_Punk13: ##Vote AirbladeOrange Kurumi: #Unvote Irish_Punk13 #Vote AirbladeOrange | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:22 Forumite wrote: Of these three, I think we have the least to go on with AirbladeOrange, because he´s only got 4 posts so far. He looks more like a slow poster that made a few scumtells. EBWOP Of the 3 suspicious ones, Kurumi, Irish_Punk13 and AirbladeOrange, AirbladeOrange has the least posts, and therefore the least to base a lynch on. On May 05 2011 04:09 AirbladeOrange wrote: I don't like this post. I never like it when a townie tries to end discussion. The town should always encourage discussion. However, Chaoser does not seem to support Kurumi at all. It seems like Kurumi could be trying to defend his mafia buddy Chaoser but Chaoser is being very serious about not defending Kurumi at all. Maybe Kurumi just made a bad mistake that Chaoser is trying to distance himself from it in order to not be involved if Kurumi turns out to be mafia. Chaoser even did a little investigation on Kurumi's other TL posts which is very interesting. Chaoser is a good player which nobody should forget. I believe he has the potential to be a great townie or a great mafia player. Eternalmisfit did a good analysis of Kurumi as well. I think the worst part about him is his posting method. What's up with that? At least if we lynch him and he flips town, we won't have to attempt to read those type of posts anymore. I agree with your overall assessment of Kurumi and I see him at least as of right now being most likely to be mafia. This is my third mafia game. I played haunted mafia a while ago and I had no idea what was going on the entire game. Then I just played Brown Bear's mafia game in which I was a mafia goon. DropBear, Coagulation, and GMarshal were all on my team. This is his longest post, one of FOUR posts. Apart from wanting to lynch Kurumi to keep him from spamming, i don´t see many weird tells. | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:24 Beneather wrote: Could you analyze these posts. So that we can see the scumtells you are telling us. We can't just bandwagon a guy just you say he has 4 posts and had a few scumtells. We need a little more than that. I looked at his longest post. The other 3 are mostly oneliners. One thinks Chaoser is suspicious for doing an analysis early, the others looks like they are asking Irish questions, or asking questions about Irish. | ||
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On May 04 2011 15:54 KillerSOS wrote: I have to agree. First to analyze, last to be analyzed. On May 05 2011 04:25 KillerSOS wrote: I'm going to have to agree with this post, while I am not decided on a vote at all, this is a good line to follow. On May 05 2011 06:02 KillerSOS wrote: I like how you make a spam post about spam posts. You would like to vote for yourself then? Do these posts look scummy to you? They look like attempts to follow along with anothers accusations instead of adding own analysis. On the other hand it might just be low on analysis because he´s a new player. | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:33 chaoser wrote: You know post count and length have nothing to do with actual scumminess right? Foolishness when he plays rarely posts but he makes his posts count when he does. You said AO posted four times only. At least he's taking stances in his posts. Kurumi hasn't taken a real stance at all. He said he was suspicious of Punk and then voted WITH Punk as soon as Punk started the AO wagon. I'm inclined to look at behavior, not post count or post length. Go read previous games please. You'll see that focusing on these issues do nothing to further the town agenda. I don't know if it's because you are a new player or what but I've got my eye on you. Does this mean you think AO is scummy and I´m wrong in my analysis as I missed that, or that you only object to the way I look at posts? I don´t focus on short posts, but I still read them. | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:53 chaoser wrote: What? I don't think AO is scummy, where do I say that in my post? I said your analysis is FLAWED. You're trying to spin a sweater out of a tiny piece of yarn. Out of the three, AO, Kurumi, and Irish_Punk, the latter two have acted way more scummy in both singular posts and behaviorally. Irish says he'll contribute but he always say "after I deal with this other game". He posts a weak argument against as heat starts to appear on Kumuri and immediately Kurumi votes with Irish even though he had previously said he thought Irish was mafia. Kurumi also tried to stop actual discussion over the topic of me, trying to buddy up to me. How is AO's posts WORSE than all that put together? Wait a minute, I thought I was defending AO, where do I try to make him out to be more scummy than the others? | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:59 chaoser wrote: Ohhhh, my bad dude, I thought you said he had the MOST to go on. 4 hours of sleep = eyes blurred lol No problem, with 30 people, confusing them is easy. I will quote properly in my EBWOPs in the future, might help prevent some confusion. | ||
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On May 05 2011 17:29 Lyter wrote: I'm not really buying all these random accusations flying around on day 1, maybe its just me, but I'd much rather see a night through so we actually have something to work with, at this point it is just pure guesswork imo. It might be guesswork but we still get information out of it, information that will be important once the first lynch flips. Also we don´t have a "no lynch" option, someone HAS to die during day 1. | ||
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On May 05 2011 16:54 aidnai wrote: offtopic: -Takuna still hasn't posted. There is still most of a day left, so we're actually doing pretty damn good on activity. Gratz everyone. Is Takuna the only one who hasn´t posted yet since the first day-post, or just one of them? | ||
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On May 05 2011 21:55 Kurumi wrote: It flipped so wrong,but so good after all. My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. That's ok. About my hyperactive posting: I was really pumped out for my first Mafia game on TL,don't get me wrong but I wanted to flip out as best as I could,horribly failed though. The biggest concern now is that I generated some kind of defence for Irish_Punk13 which was not my intention,also I got connected with him. Even if You lynch Irish and he flips out Mafia I am DEAD. If You lynch me,I am DEAD. Who else can You lynch? Well,entire society is now focused on me,Irish,AO. It is very easy to make another same analysis post about how my or those two posting was,just take a note that does not certainly mean someone wants to help You,but just to show that Mafia cares to lynch someone who isn't them. My derail wasted a lot of Your time and I am sorry for that,I might meant it,but I did not think that it would turn out to be discussion number 1. Bandwagon is ready Scum,buy Your tickets,I am already cursing at You. Kurumi, while you are online and not yet lynched, would you please try your analysis of the game and who you think are scum or anti-town? I want to know. Even in the face of a bandwagon you can still help Town. Chances are that you drop a gem that someone will pick up on, allowing us to track down scum after you are lynched. | ||
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On May 05 2011 21:47 redtooth wrote: Kurumi, Irish, and AO are all looking extremely noobtown to me. Every argument used against them could be used to argue that they're noobtown. For sake of argument, if they are noobs making false scumtells, in that case, who beyond Chaoser do you see as Scum? Right now Kurumi and Irish are the best candidates for a lynch, and I agree that the cases may seem weak, but I don´t see anyone else! | ||
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On May 05 2011 22:13 Kurumi wrote: I set the traps already,just waiting for prey,sadly I am out of nets so I won't be able to catch it myself. My analysis would be based on weak accusations and probably overlooked things,I might not be able to write anything useful,but I will try. It is sad to see You're counting me only as dead's last will. But it is okay. You are not dead until you are dead, which is why you should defend yourself. Also even if it´s a weak case, I still want to hear it. You have seen something, and if it keeps going like this, then you won´t be able to tell anyone about it after the lynch. | ||
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On May 06 2011 02:36 Eternalmisfit wrote: People defending others ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/QrdnSl&jEcjA) People accusing/FoS/Voting others ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/QrdnS&jEcjAl) How to read this chart Every player has a number against him. Green number on the column of a player means defense or town call for player # by this player Red number on the column means accusation or mafia call for player # by this player Bold and deep color represents multiple occasions of the said event i.e. strong support/attack This chart is applicable till Takuna's first post on page 33 (not including it) The purpose behind this is to analyze potential relationships between different people which will come into play after we people flip after lynches/deaths. I will post a more detailed analysis with my thoughts based on this within 30-60 mins. Very interesting numbers, thanks for gathering them. If you accept advice, you may have a bit low threshold on defending, but I might be wrong, defending and picking apart a weak argument are not the same thing. May I suggest an inverted table on the second one, where you show who each player have been accused of being scum by? | ||
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If you open them in two tabs between eachother and switch back and forth, it´s much easier to see which players are not saying anything. | ||
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##Unote: Kurumi ##Vote: redtooth (I´m posting in the other thread too, just wanted to be polite and inform people of the voting here too, since it´s easier to see updates in the main thread) | ||
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