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On April 19 2011 08:10 Eternalmisfit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:On April 19 2011 08:02 Eternalmisfit wrote: EBWOP: And Elmizzt posted while I was writing my post. And goes after Vain which breaks his potential affiliation with Vain.
@Elmizzt As much as Forumite's delayed claim makes it suspicious; since no one else has claimed being saved and mafia didn't get a kill last night; I can't find a scenario (in which mafia isn't totally indept or is just too awesome) where he is scum. Well, I think you have to consider that a mafia was saved. It that's the case, then Vain is mafia, and his partner was saved. They were trying to throw us off by shifting the save to Vain, not sure why they would do that, but it's a possible scenario. The mafia cannot be saved as in that case we would have a town kill. In the absence of a town kill, I can safely say that a townie was saved and there is a medic. You're right, I should think more before posting lol.
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On April 19 2011 08:08 VarpuliS wrote: Vain, for all of the guides you claim to read, you don't seem to know what a bandwagon is. A bandwagon would be me seeing three other people voting for you, and do the same without giving a reason. A bandwagon is not reading an analysis, debating it with others, being convinced, and then voting for you. Weak defense.
Also, nobody knows what you're talking about when you reference the guides. If you want to ask a question, just ask it, don't be vague.
To all the people calling Forumite a liar: Then what did happen? Mafia decided not to hit anybody? why the hell would they do that? Elmizzt, how did you know when the PM's went out? Are you claiming blue?
No, I'm not claiming blue with that post. But I think it's safe to say that the PM's would go out as close to humanly possible as the post announcing the new day/night, would it not?
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Who are set on lynching Vain?
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We´ve got about 26 hours left until the final vote, right?
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Sandroba and I have already voted for him. I don't know about anybody else. I'm assuming that by "set on" you mean "supportive of."
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26 and a half hours as of this post, yes.
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On April 19 2011 08:30 VarpuliS wrote: Sandroba and I have already voted for him. I don't know about anybody else. I'm assuming that by "set on" you mean "supportive of." Ready to vote on him in general.
It looks like the support is weak, so I wonder if we shouldn´t consider other options. We´ll know either way after night 2 if Vain survives.
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On April 19 2011 08:32 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 08:30 VarpuliS wrote: Sandroba and I have already voted for him. I don't know about anybody else. I'm assuming that by "set on" you mean "supportive of." Ready to vote on him in general. It looks like the support is weak, so I wonder if we shouldn´t consider other options. We´ll know either way after night 2 if Vain survives. Other options: Shcoleosis would still make a fine lynch if we can't get enough support for Vain. It could be that the mafia doesn't target Vain intentionally to make us suspicious of him if we let whether he lives or dies be the deciding factor in his guilt. It's better to base it all off of analysis.
There are too many mind games that could be played from basing suspicions on mafia targets, especially because they're reading the same thread the rest of us are. If you tell them how to spread misinformation, they're going to spread misinformation.
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My wording is a little strange. Let me rephrase that fist paragraph:
Shcoleosis is a good lynch if we can't get enough support for Vain.
Basing Vain's guilt on whether the mafia kills him or not is a bad idea though. Mafia could intentionally not target him just to make us suspicious even if he actually is a townie. It's better to base all of our suspicions on analysis.
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Are we back to Shcoleosis and Elmizzt then?
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On April 19 2011 08:48 Forumite wrote: Are we back to Shcoleosis and Elmizzt then?
I don't feel like I have enough information about Elmizzt to vote for him just yet. I think we've got more ammunition against 2 other right now.
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agreed. Elmizzt's a little shady, but not "lynch him now" shady. Zorkmid, what's your stance on Vain vs Shcoleosis. Who are you more inclined to vote for? Why?
Let's just assume for now that Vain isn't our medic.
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I think that there are two main reasons (other than the medic thing, which is a big one for me) I'd pick Scholeosis over Vain at this point:
1. I've had the scum vibe from Scholeosis longer than Vain 2. Scholeosis seems to have a fairly consistent "defender". Right or wrong, this leads me to think that they may both be SCUM
That said, if a fairy told me that Vain wasn't a medic, I'd flip a coin.
The other thing is.....I feel like if we get Vain and he is SCUM, I have no idea who we go after next. If Scholeosis is SCUM then I think our next moves as town are pretty cut and dried.
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Zorkmid has a point.
At least about everything except the part about the defender because Zorkmid thinks it´s me.
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interesting... The deciding factor for me might turn out being which one would give us more information once they flip town/mafia. At this point I think that Shcoleosis would provide more information.
Needless to say, if one flips town, it's very likely that the other one is scum.
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I think they accused eachother, and between them there is a possibility that Vain is the Medic too, so I think Shcoleosis is the right target.
Once again he´s out and can´t defend himself, but there should be time until the Lynch must be in.
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I'm off to sleep, and will be traveling for the next few days. I'm not going to be inactive, but I'll be posting from my phone for the most part, so expect my posts be shorter and less filled with bbc code.
Right now it's clear to me that we should lynch either Shcoleosis or Vain, but as of right now I'm not sure which one.
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On April 19 2011 10:14 VarpuliS wrote: I'm off to sleep, and will be traveling for the next few days. I'm not going to be inactive, but I'll be posting from my phone for the most part, so expect my posts be shorter and less filled with bbc code.
Right now it's clear to me that we should lynch either Shcoleosis or Vain, but as of right now I'm not sure which one.
Totally offtopic...When I open TL mafia threads on my phone the app crashes. What do you use?
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Very late, see you tomorrow.
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24 hours till the end of day, be sure to vote
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