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Sleeper Cell Mafia
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GMarshal
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I like these mechanics | ||
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Should be fun | ||
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On April 25 2011 07:36 tnkted wrote: Yep, got mine too. This is going to be an interesting game, I got a strange role. Bread-crumbing already huh? LYNCH HIM! Too bad I noticed "I got a strange role" is a five word phrase! trying to communicate with your buddies... ##Vote: tnkted | ||
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On April 25 2011 07:41 tnkted wrote: Lol GM, the cell leader's messages can't possibly have gone out yet, the game hasn't even started yet. I'm not crumbing, I'm just honestly stating that my role is strange. Here: WEIRD ROLE, DUDES Right, scum, keep on talking (it was an obvious joke, why are you so nervous... have something to hide?) also as far as your role goes I think I know what it is, you see I'm a Telepath and I got to see your role you are Welcome to Sleeper Cell Mafia you are The Mystic Avenger you live only to quench your thirst of vengeance. You will kill those bastards that murdered your family, see if you wont! You win when the serial killer and the Mass Murderer are dead. Thankfully you have some equipment to help you. 1.) Astral tables: Quite easy to use all you do is submit a number equal to the leading coefficient of the sum of all vowels used in all of your posts, ever, and then submit this number to the mod and three outside sources, if you figured it out right you will be told the astral signs of all players in the game, you know that the SK and MM are both sagitarius. 2.) Avenging Blade- its a sword of pure flame, you use it to smite the enemy, at any point you may type ##Smite Player in the thread and the player will be killed, if you hit an innocent (someone who has not killed anyone) the blade kills you as well. 3.) True Faith- If you die you may PM the mod a 100 word or less prayer. it will be edited into the OP as "divine revelation". Also you are immune to one night kill or one lynch, whichever comes first. | ||
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/applause | ||
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On April 25 2011 07:52 tnkted wrote: ...fuck ##smite GMarshal ##Mind Shield Mr.WIggles see due to a loophole in the wording of the mind shield portion of my PM, if I protect *anyone* I cannot be killed either ^_^ | ||
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On April 25 2011 10:32 Jackal58 wrote: I am going to be here until shortly after the day post guys. I get up before 5 for work so I gotta get some sleep. I just don't want to wake up to screams of "lurker" I don't lurk. I sleep.  Sleep is for weak people! Healthy, sane, well rested weak people, but weak people nonetheless! | ||
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As I see it in this setup many traditional mafia "tells" dont apply as the mafia (except for the leader) have the same information as the town does, hell they don't even know who is going to die before they do. This means that we have to look for tells based not on more knowledge, but on pure behavior. I know this is a small distinction but I think its important enough to point out. As far as the blue roles we know we have at least one of vigi's should obviously shoot lurkers or people they are sure are scum, while our dts need push to lynch any red results they get, and I suggest any "not enough data" results they get, as the mafia leader hides behind those. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. Onto making people post ##Vote:Sandroba I noticed you in the Surprisingly Normal. Do you have any thoughts on the setup? | ||
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I also suggest that if multiple people quote a post others of us do the same, as that might be a method of identification as well. Also I agree we need to keep up the posting activity, as quality posts are important to foster discussion. | ||
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On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote: I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of. As I see it there are only a few basic ways for the mafia to communicate. 1.) The GF reveals individualy who each member is to another member with a message such as "the pardoner is mafia" this is going to take forever and is not an optimal use of messaging 2.) The GF orchestrates something like "everyone change their signature to 'death and destruction' (which is why I am keeping track of peoples signatures) it is going to be an obvious reveal if so 3.) the GF organizes no obvious breadcrumbing something like "include three typos per post" or "use the word spectral" by implementing my strategy we stomp on any such plan. There might be work arounds but I have to wonder if the GF can figure it out and inform the rest of the team in only five word messages. I find it curious that you oppose this plan, whats so bad about it sand? | ||
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On April 25 2011 21:57 Vain wrote: Well for instance the cell leader could hint them who is who. It is stated in the first post that the cell leader is allowed to breadcrumb. He can also send that pm at dusk and down so in theory he could give some direction to who to vote for to lynch at dawn and also who to hit at dusk. He isn't allowed to use player names, period, so thats going to be difficult to say the least. Yes the cell leader can hint at who is who but he has five words or 20 characters to do it in, its going to be a bitch to inform 1/3 of the players in this game about each others identity without being able to send out names. Assume it takes him one PM to reveal one player ,which makes sense as he can't just say it so he'd have to say something like "DT in Surprisingly Normal Mafia" to reveal a player assuming 5 members that means its going to take him 2 and a half days to inform everyone, (this is assuming any PMs are sent out to the whole group, if they are sent to individuals its even harder). If they want to be efficient they have to find a way to post it in the thread, and thats what this plan sets out to hinder. | ||
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I understand if you don't want to reveal it, but if it requires posting in the thread we can find it, spoof it, or otherwise sabotage it. | ||
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Now, I'm assuming one person is receiving the message. 1.) Ace- "I'm the pardoner from XXXVIII": with a veteran player like Ace I would be trying to get as much information to him as possible, information is power and even with only a little bit of it I'm sure he could get stuff done 2.) Mr. Wiggles - " mafia will post 'serial killer' " or some other breadcrumb that would allow me to reveal myself to him and then the rest of the team. I might think of a more clever breadcrumb than that, and if it were clever enough I might use it for ace instead. 3.) why- same as for wiggles, as a veteran player both of them are people I could count on to work it into their regular posts without worrying too much about them messing up. | ||
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On April 25 2011 22:38 Impervious wrote: Guys, this talk about breadcrumbing is nice and all, but I don't see it going much further at the moment. We should probably wait a while before bringing this up, so we can catch a slip up. Especially if they are trying to hide their posting in the thread. I think we should talk about the pros and cons of of double-checking anyone who gets the result of "insufficient analysis", to make it easier on the DT. The pros of double checking are that you are more sure of the result. The cons are that you could be checking someone else instead, therefore checking more people. I really think the cons outweigh the pros in this case. Thoughts? I think the DT should just push for a lynch on the target 75% chance of having the cell leader is worth the gamble of accidentally getting a town player lynched, IMO. Sure it might suck for the town player getting the shit end of the stick, but hey, we die for the greater glory and all that. I also think this is usless discussion that allows scum to blend in, I'm sure the mafia is content to debate this to death, rather than worrying about us sabotaging their cutesy plans. Still I want to see what you guys awnser to Ace's question | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Mr.Wiggles do you know why I'm voting for you Mr.Wiggles? | ||
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On April 26 2011 00:11 tnkted wrote: OFFTOPIC: LOL. dude, i was searching for that post in insane 2 and i couldn't find it, you don't happen to remember what page it was on do you? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702¤tpage=144#2877 this? /end offtopic | ||
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On April 26 2011 00:29 Rean wrote: the fuck is this shit. youre discussing how the gf can crumb in his messages WHEN THATS USELESS TO TOWN. seriously, we dont give a fuck how they crumb because we wont find out about it anyway if mafia is even half-decent. and now you're even making cutesy lists on who you would message if you were the GF? STOP BEING USELESS. seriously, you people are randomly discussing things that don't get us anywhere. fos list so far: ace/tnkted/more idiots filling the thread with bullshit lists So, what would you like us to talk about then? Should we make an in depth discussion of the merits of lynching inactives? Or discuss what our blues should be doing? Of course we give a fuck of how mafia crumbs, we might be able to catch them at it! But still, what do you propose we do to STOP BEING USELESS? your FoS is reduced to "people are discussing things, I won't offer an alternative but get pissed at them for *talking* how *dare* they start discussing things!" So Rean, if you had the lynch right now who would you kill and why? | ||
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On April 26 2011 00:43 Ace wrote: Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that. Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless. Interestingly enough do you mind if I ask you a question? Why are these lists useful? I'd like to hear what reasoning went behind asking us to post these. | ||
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