If I appear to be inactive, that's because I am really sick atm. I've read 10+ pages and right now GMarshal and Protactinium are top of my list for mayor. However as there is no voting thread yet for whatever reason :S, I'm going to stay in bed and rest until the thread is up and my voting is required. I also like Protact's posts a lot more than GM. Yes, GM is easy to read, but I agree with Protact that he isn't superbly great at analysis. Protact's each and every post was filled with so much content, meeting quality over quantity in my eyes, and gets to the point without beating around the bush. As a town leader (yes, I know his win-condition is not town) and an analyst, I would much more likely be in favor of Protact.

I believe even by having him alive in the early game while he still feels like siding with town, he can create a much ideal environment for the town. At least his posts motivate me to play and post better.

Also, sure if you think me being sick is an excuse, but I just wanted to get this out there in the case I really cannot post due to illness. I'm already trying my best to keep up with this thread by at least posting Day 1.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 11 2011 19:02 GMT

#1127

##Vote ilovejonn

Placeholder until I get back from work and read everything tonight.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 12 2011 03:14 GMT

#1324

If my counting is correct, Dr. H is leading the mayor position with 13 votes and Pardoner landing onto GM with 12 votes. (By the time I am typing this up) There are people who have yet to vote, but with this many new players in the game I'm expecting 1 or 2 modkills.

Somehow because GM attracts new players to vote for him it is very unusual and scummy. What I find more scummy is the fact that there are a ton of switch votes towards Dr. H that is making him lead in votes. Like Kavdragon said, Dr. H has said that he would not run for mayor, BUT because he doesn't trust anyone else as mayor other than himself (because that would avoid mafia influence) he ran for mayor. His whole mayor platform is just, "I'm willing to listen to town discussion but if I decide that the town decision doesn't sound right to me, I will lynch whoever I feel is scum. (Even when the majority of the town says the lynch target is not scum) Also, don't blame me if I lynched town because everyone makes mistakes." Yet, he is getting votes purely because of people having a town read on him. I want a townie as Mayor too, but definitely not Dr.H.

Having said all this, I'm not saying that Dr. H is scum, I just do not feel comfortable with him being Mayor, especially with all the vote switches onto him. I'm inclined to believe there's at least 1 scum on the list of people that voted for him.

These are a few people who decided to switch to him (not complete list of who voted for Dr. H)

13.kevconsim - GM > DocH
16.tnkted - tnkted > DocH > GM (changed vote while I was typing this)
18.urashimakt - Prot > DocH
27.DoctorHelvetica - GM > DocH (lol)
28.darmousseh - GM > DocH
33.redFF - Prot > DocH

This list serves no purpose other than for me to keep track of who voted for what, but I decided to share it for those of you who do not do these types of record-keeping. My unwillingness to vote for Dr. H is based on the fact that there are many vote switches for him, as well as the general feelings I get from reading his posts.

What I wanted was for GM to be Mayor and Protactinium as Pardoner. I'm not saying the Pardoner is not an important role. I have read about why having scum in this role is not beneficial as it gives reds a free no lynch cycle, but I am still willing to take the risk and offer Prot the position as I feel his abilities and skill can be very beneficial to town, even if he decides to turn against us during the late game.

Think about it this way, we have him in the position, he uses his KP and DT checks depending on our decision or we lynch him. Except for his last one to complete his win condition of course. We don't have him in a position and he is forced to use his own judgement and KP that will most likely hit 1 or 2 townies (due to blacks are better off playing townie-like than-scum like).

In conclusion, I will place my vote on Protactinium in hopes that he can get the Pardoner position. But the chances are probably very slim because there's less than an hour til Day ends.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 12 2011 07:28 GMT

#1572

What about that Serejai dude. I don't care if he's new, I was new but I never played like that. His posts are hilarious but hardly says anything that helps town.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 05:30 GMT

#1738

No blacks tried to hit flamewheel/prot? o_O

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 05:34 GMT

#1740

On April 13 2011 14:31 chaoser wrote:

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It's night 1. They can't use hits till night 2

Totally forgot.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:21 GMT

#1837

How can anyone oppose lynching Coagulation when he's checked to be Red? It doesn't matter if Protact is Black/Blue, what matters is we lynch a scum.

Okay, Coag flips green/blue, that means Protact gets no medic protection, he gets killed by Assassins, and we continue on with our lives searching for scum. No offense, but it's not like Coagulation has been doing amazing analysis this game.

Coag flips red, great for town. Medics will protect Prot, and if Prot is DT great. If he is Assassin, he has no more DT checks and cannot continue to pretend to be DT UNLESS, he nails SCUM for us with analysis 100% accurately (WHICH IS WHAT TOWN WANTS LOL).

Coag flips black, outcomes have been explained by Dr. H.

Why would we not lynch Coagulation? So many scum buddies coming out to defend him atm.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:32 GMT

#1855

On April 13 2011 17:23 Lemonwalrus wrote:
^^for the 69th time, assasins cannot use abilities night 1.

If he is an assassin, he could not have checked coag last night.

Thanks but it doesn't change the fact that his read on Coag HAS to be red for him to even gain the trust of town.

ilovejonn

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April 13 2011 08:35 GMT

#1866

On April 13 2011 17:34 Coagulation wrote:

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ITS NOT A GODAMN DT CHECK
HE COULDNT DT CHECK ME AND HAVE IT COME BACK RED
ITS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.

Are you saying you're Godfather now?

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:36 GMT

#1868

Also, when were you ever NOT pissed off playing a game of Mafia? Just wondering.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:38 GMT

#1873

Would Protact go out of his way to help MAFIA by lynching Coag assuming he is town/blue and then die the same night? He HAS to be sure Coag is Red/BLACK.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:45 GMT

#1881

On April 13 2011 17:40 Coagulation wrote:
HE DOESNT HAVE TO BE SURE. HES GOT NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO MAKE A GUESS.
AND GUESS WHO HE GUESSES.
THE PERSON WHO HAS MULTIPLE "ASSASSIN READS" FROM DOCH AND OTHERS.
THIS IS ALL A GAMBLE.

What gamble..? If he's black and lying since its Night 1 black's can't use DT checks, and he attacks you because you're the scummiest, but then you flip green/blue he still dies. If you flip black/red he just did town a favor by forming a case against you.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 08:48 GMT

#1884

On April 13 2011 17:45 Coagulation wrote:
at least when i flip he will be exposed AS A LIER.

hey flamewheel MARK MY WORDS YOUR FUCKED AT FLIP.

Why do you need to keep stressing this? Blacks will hit him during the night if you're green/blue.

Also to people saying this is disrupting us from scum hunting... wtf? Who says you can't scum hunt as well as discuss our current lynch target?

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 09:01 GMT

#1898

that's what she said.

anyways, sleeping, be back in 12 hours.

ilovejonn

Canada2524 Posts

April 13 2011 19:57 GMT

#2020

Coagulation if you're playing pro-town, please come up with your analysis of who we SHOULD lynch instead. I know defending yourself is important but at least, like Kavdragon, post out all your thoughts when there is a high chance of you dying today.