TL Mafia XXXVIII

On April 08 2011 11:22 ilovejonn wrote:
Friday, Friday, everyone get down on Friday.

FUN FUN FUN

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On April 11 2011 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Incorrect

On April 12 2011 13:18 GMarshal wrote:


I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it.

On April 12 2011 13:25 chaoser wrote:


Everyone's so damn scared of this shit. If prot never came out we'd be in the same situation of assassins shooting into the crowd. What's the difference with him in office? We get to use his powers, assassins will still be shooting into the crowd. His positives outweigh his negatives. By far in my opinion.

On April 12 2011 13:39 jaminz wrote:


I'll be completely honest about that one, and you can ridicule me all you want for it: I was nervous that I'd be modkilled for not voting, and wanted to make sure I had a vote in before things got too out of hand so I voted for Dr. H. I know he knows how to play the game, and my gut said he was the one to pick.

On April 12 2011 14:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


dude seriously

oh wait i forgot you're an assassin so you don't really care whats best for town huh

On April 12 2011 14:04 Latrommi wrote:


Ok, there's suspicion. I get it. I had problems with getting the mafia forum's access, but got through with it enough to read a few pages before voting.

On April 12 2011 14:05 Latrommi wrote:


I had to vote, though

On April 12 2011 14:28 Barundar wrote:
Perfect, more lambs to the slaughter.

Pro town drh would not be so quick to lynch off every active player in this game. I wonder how long it will take town to see that

On April 14 2011 06:01 Kenpachi wrote:
KAY. I HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION.
GM is scum. defending his scum buddy Coag by attacking DrH. Also, why the fuck would the mayor analyze the Pardoner.

On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?

On April 14 2011 21:52 DropBear wrote:
Out of the three names on the respective bandwagons, Robellicose, Serejai and Kenpachi, there are two new players and one guy whos been around for a while.



First his voting pattern.


A lot of people sheeped on the GM vote as well so it doesn't stick out to me.
It only becomes suss when you follow up with this:


You had about an hour to change your vote. You were present in thread and active. Why didn't you? Why are you sheeping exactly?


These are from the voting thread rather than the main thread itself.




What the hell is going on here?

Next some other posts.




You've contributed very little. You've repeated what other people have said. You just described yourself as either scum or scared. Which are you?



First, as GMarshal is pulling ahead, he claims that he is busy and cannot be involved.


He then goes on to make 18 one-line posts within the space of an hour around lynch time contributing nothing, coinciding with his inaction on the mayor vote.


Why are you trying to get people to avoid looking at what you say?



More pointless bandwagoning. Trying to look as though he's contributing and is not.



When he is questioned about it by ilovejonn he replies with this:


You are goofing off almost as much as Serejai.



I've looked through a few of his more recent games in which he was almost always town. His strange one-liners have been present in all the games I looked at but there a few subtle differences. Last game, when he was town, he had his own opinion.

I refer to the recently completed Insane Mafia 2, in which Kenpachi was a townsman.
Following is some of his analysis on Day 1 of this game. Notice how this kind of stuff is absent from him in this game.

+ Show Spoiler +

Additionally, his mayor voting pattern is decisive.



The combination of his being on both bandwagons, his bizarre posting and the subtle differences between this game and his Insane 2 town posting are why you should ##Vote Kenpachi

My secondary candidates are Robellicose and Serejai

On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!

And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.

On April 15 2011 12:10 DropBear wrote:
This is my scum team:

GMarshal
Kenpachi
Serejai
Robellicose

Marshal is red. He's flipflopped so many times it's ridiculous. His DT claim is rubbish. Kenpachi, Serejai and Robellicose are bandwagoning for him, while trying to stay under the radar.

I can't seem to convince anyone about Kenpachi and Marshal does have the pardon, so I'm switching to him.

On April 15 2011 12:42 DropBear wrote:

Now that I have called you out, you are bussing him. I'm pretty certain now.

On April 15 2011 12:52 GGQ wrote:


I'd like to see your argument, actually. You've just dismissed the accusation over and over. I trust DropBear more than you at this point. Let's see what you have to say for yourself.

On April 15 2011 13:54 GMarshal wrote:
Well, then I'm done.

I played more pro-town this game than when I'm town. But you people are blind

GG

On April 15 2011 14:06 Barundar wrote:
Jaminez makes for an excellent vigi hit, so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.

On April 15 2011 14:58 Lemonwalrus wrote:


List of people that voted for GMarhal during his campaign, not sure if we will have the whole mafia team here (doubtful) but good chance there are at least a few in there.

On April 15 2011 15:03 DropBear wrote:

And you incidentally.

On April 15 2011 15:03 Mig wrote:
tnkted was already killed as a townie kenpachi haha

On April 15 2011 15:04 redFF wrote:


you've yet to say why you think i am mafia. OMGUS FOS KENPACHI. i can do this too yo

On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:
Guys We should lynch Milkyst I Might be 100% Sure hes scum

On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:


THAT WONT WORK IM VET

On April 16 2011 11:06 DropBear wrote:
My original Mafia team:

GMarshal Dead
Kenpachi
Serejai
Robellicose

Marshal was red, serejai has requested replacement and apparently made a blue claim somewhere? Kenpachi dismissed me as a newbie and Robellicose has gone silent.

My initial reasoning was based on Coag being assassin, with the other three jumping on the bandwagon to elect Marshal and lynch coag. Now that coag has flipped red.... I'm not as sure on the other three anymore.

Kenpachi you have dismissed me completely since I accused you. I've had a more detailed look through your history and I can't see any pattern at all no matter what role you have. I'll lay off you for the moment but you've still piqued my interest.

On April 16 2011 11:05 Rean wrote:


Captain Obvious to the rescue!

Can you please try and post something slightly less useless? Your analysis on Kenpachi wasn't half bad, maybe try it again on someone else you believe to be scum. I know you're capable of that.

On April 16 2011 12:59 ilovejonn wrote:
I have a feeling most of the active players besides the 2 that died aren't RED. Red, I didn't say black. Why? If Coagulation was chosen as their Godfather, I have a feeling there are a few of the newer players in the scum team as well. No offense to Coag of course. Once the GM using Pardon debate sparked up, note how almost NONE of the newer players stood out to say anything other than bandwagon vote in the vote thread. As such I've looked through some of the newer names and here is what I think of jaminz.



Okay, maybe 1 or 2 people called him/her out for being inactive and he felt the need to defend/explain why this is so. I did not read this post in context but this isn't really one of the important posts. However the bolded part is something to take note of, perhaps newer players feel the need to say nice things such as "thanks" or "sorry" in order to compensate the inherent guilt they have for being mafia.


Alright, this post I can understand. People have stuff to do IRL and this guy's scum read at the beginning of the game is Dr. H, so he votes him.


I didn't read in context again, but jaminz was laying so low I don't think anyone called him out on being inactive at that time? But he comes out of no where to say nothing but he is working on reading and catching up on the thread. Says he'll do analysis. Look at the time stamp, it is April 13 TL time, and it's April 16 TL time right now. This is a clear guilt trip post to make people not call him out on being inactive.


The most important post of all. What this post tells me is that jaminz knows or thinks he knows how people think they can catch scum. By reading posts. In that sense, the more you post the more likely you'll get found out! Newbie mafia mistake? Do note, that all the quotes I have are all the posts jaminz has had so far. I also felt that the need for him to quote and respond to Coag's question was probably because jaminz and Coag is on the same scum team.


This was near the end of Day 2, when GM was about to get lynched. It is April 15. jaminz said that he would do analysis on April 13. Even if he did not, there were CLEAR targets for her to put a placeholder vote on. Who does he put it on? Dr. H again. Why? Maybe because he doesn't want to feel bad for voting GM or Coag since they are on the same team.

Conclusion: jaminz is mafia.

On April 17 2011 11:42 Conversion wrote:


is he town for making a tracker claim?

can you explain why instead of playing your usual "im gonna post stupid 1 liners without doing anything so some other player can explain my reasoning?"

really not helping me out here.

On April 19 2011 15:36 Kenpachi wrote:
wheres the night post

On April 19 2011 23:58 Barundar wrote:
Guess my scumlist is down to

DropBear
DarthThienAn
Conversion
Kenpachi

Would put jaminz up there if AO didn't completely discard the option -.-

On April 20 2011 00:40 chaoser wrote:
yeah ;_; we'd all have to be thinking on the same wavelength...like the protoss...



Are we mass claiming bum?

Relatively Active
chaoser -> Town
DoctorHelvetica -> Town
bumatlarge -> Town
Barundar -> Town
kitaman27 -> Watcher
Kenpachi
redFF->Zorkmid
urashimakt

Relatively Inactive
The_Roist -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard
MetalFace -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard
jaminz -> Very Inactive -> Town?
AirbladeOrange -> Town?
DarthThienAn -> very Inactive
TranceStorm -> Very Inactive
Conversion -> very Inactive
DropBear -> Roleblocker
ilovejonn

so really the potential mafia list boils down to

Kenpachi
redFF->Zorkmid
urashimakt
DarthThienAn -> Very Inactive -> I like bum's case on him -> Mafia?
TranceStorm -> Very Inactive
Conversion -> Very Inactive
DropBear -> Roleblocker
ilovejonn

I'll go over everything after I prep for my presentation today. Mafia must be scared of my list to go after someone like me which means it must have some merit right? RIGHT?!?!

On April 20 2011 03:41 Barundar wrote:
Guess I might as well

Normal townie, LOL roleblocks ^^

On April 20 2011 04:14 Barundar wrote:

You pissed off your name is on it? Would like to see your suspects

On April 20 2011 05:11 bumatlarge wrote:
Kenpachi, if you write an analysis on ilovejonn, I will say you are town til I die. But oh you never write anything longer then 2 lines, so you probably can't do it anyway.

On April 20 2011 05:32 ilovejonn wrote:
So I guess today's vote is on Dropbear ez. Also, I don't understand Kenpachi. I was on your scum list the whole game, now when someone tells you to analyze me you go oh his posts are pro-town. Kinda hard to analyze someone when you are mafia and you know I'm not right?

On April 20 2011 06:21 jaminz wrote:


Can bodyguards be scum? I thought they came from the pool of town players.

On April 20 2011 05:08 Kenpachi wrote:
nvm random townies...
ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu

On April 21 2011 10:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Well I'm just thinking it would be better to keep the mafia guessing who is blue and who is town.

As for tonight, I'll either watch bum or a bodyguard, bum should probably protect me or someone who is pro-town, and any other watchers or medics should visit me/bum. That way if mafia wants to role block or kill one of us, they're going to have to pay with one of their three remaining members. If they don't want to take the risk, then they won't have a clear idea who else to hit.




Not really relevant, but did anyone notice DropBear did not reveal the full hidden message? I wonder if that was on purpose :p

I would suggest everyone take a look through DropBear's posts to see if anything stands out.

On April 21 2011 14:13 BrownBear wrote:
So earlier today, my friends didn't want me to leave so they all grabbed me in a group hug with me at the center. Then someone started humming the Katamari theme song. It was epic.