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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 19:15 GMT
#1133
if protact isn't elected then i'll publicly announce the list of my assassin suspects so they can just kill eachother off quickly. otherwise i'll hold back so we can use his check at least.again i'd like to see myself as mayor, and protactinium as pardoner, I think that will ultimately be the best scenario for us.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 19:42 GMT
#1139
On April 12 2011 04:40 Eiii wrote:
So I just caught up on the thread again, and to jump back a few pages-- why am I on everyone's list for assassin, again? I confused 'thee banhammers' for 'three assassins' since three is the number of assassins there seem to always be in a game, as evidenced by prot admitting that there are in fact three assassins. Is that the entire foundation of the case against me or what? I don't want to get insta-shot for this when the game's barely begun. :/

yes and the fact that you're laying so low otherwise. is that all you have to say with all that has happened today?

"hey im not the assassin dont shoot me"
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 19:47 GMT
#1142
you jumped pretty quickly onto kita for someone that ran on the idea of lynching an inactive and insinuating that scumhunting on day 1 wasn't worth anything at all : /
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 19:53 GMT
#1144
i actually don't think eiii is the assassin but he said there were three assassins before protact revealed the actual number iirc
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 20:10 GMT
#1151
why are people voting in this thread lolol
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 20:20 GMT
#1158
im gonna nap until pandain comes and destroys this thread again
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#1182
I'm going to lynch Kavdragon
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 22:45 GMT
#1187
On April 12 2011 07:43 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 07:41 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 07:39 aidnai wrote:
GM, what makes you say tackster was town?

Good on you for quitting tackster. On to a healthier, nicer smelling future!



Hopefully you'll find someone that can replace me rather than lose a green altogther...


He said he was green in his goodbye post.

oh well that proves it lol

if i were mafia leaving thats exactly what i would say "i was just a worthless townie anyway" or smth like that

doesnt mean jack
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 22:46 GMT
#1189
On April 12 2011 07:42 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm going to lynch Kavdragon


yeah, i'm not sticking my neck out for that guy anymore -_-

"yeah, I had a plan that involved contributing without contributing but now i see the folly of my ways and I'll now seem like I'm really going to contribute and my plan was good at heart but i just didn't foresee everything but look at me contributing see how long my posts are i must be protown"

hes playing a lot like whatshisname in salem mafia where he said "yeah i promise im gonna contribute and scumhunt guys im totally ready to scumhunt" and just never did it

and he was mafia
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 22:57 GMT
#1193
On April 12 2011 07:51 Kavdragon wrote:

My Thoughts on the Game



First and foremost, the spam needs to come down. We need to be able to read through this thread to scum hunt, and the amount of spam is making it really hard to read. Obviously a good idea, right? So why is everyone still spamming? A few people on the top of my spam list are

RedFF (For posting a lot of lists pointing at people, and asking tons of questions of people, but not actually contributing as much)

Gmarshal (For posting more than is healthy. I know that you have a lot of things to say, but when you have that much to say you need to learn how to condense it. You don't have to reply to every single person when almost everyone is talking to you.)

Dr.H (Not bad like RedFF, but in the similar vein as GMarshal, I think that you can condense what you are saying. If there are three people who say something scummy, wait a bit, then put your responses into the same post or something.)


I don't think anyone is used to having 50 pages to analyse by day one. I'm certainly not. I've often been told that it's useless to analyse on day one, and I've disagreed with it before. As daunting a task as it is, I agree with Dr.H that there's plenty of material to get started on. Sure it won't be as reliable as the material that we will have by day 3/4, but there's no better time to start analyzing than NOW.

If you wait, it won't happen, so I'm going to ask EVERYONE, even those who are bad at it, to try thier hand. By this time, the only people who don't have scum reads are scum. Take someone who you think is scummy, and analyse them.

Right now my main concern will be inactive/lurker types, because they are the higher priority for lynching.

wowwowowowowowowwwwwww
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#1195
^correct

what else does it do "EVERYONE NEEDS TO SCUMHUNT RALLY AROUND MY GREAT IDEALS WHILE I CONTRIBUTE NOTHING"

i remember that dudes name. Radfield! Read his posts in Salem Mafia! That's exactly what kav's doing rn
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#1199
yeah im feeling really bad about redFF right now but what purpose doeshe really have to tunnel ON and m0nsterchef so hard if he's mafia.

his actions don't really make sense from either alignment to me (but I assume everyone is good, my main error) but he's made a lot of points I agree with so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. IMO redFF would make a great DT check.

Here's one of the few times I'll give advice for blues in this game.

DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#1207
On April 12 2011 08:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yeah im feeling really bad about redFF right now but what purpose doeshe really have to tunnel ON and m0nsterchef so hard if he's mafia.

his actions don't really make sense from either alignment to me (but I assume everyone is good, my main error) but he's made a lot of points I agree with so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. IMO redFF would make a great DT check.

Here's one of the few times I'll give advice for blues in this game.

DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS

i accidentally hit enter woops

DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS INSTEAD:
Let's say you investigate your target and you get a hit! They're scum! Well, is it time to roleclaim and reveal your results? Hell fucking no it is not.

If you do that you will die and now have no worth in the late game.


But DrH! I can just request constant medic protection!

And now the medics are busy protecting you and not someone else who is gonna get hit. If the mafia know for sure who medics will protect, it doesn't reduce their KP. You WANT the mafia to hit those targets, you WANT them to guess wrongly about where medics are going.

Ok so what do you do with your result? Well go look at their posts. Go to their profile, go to their posts, and read fucking eeeeeeeeeeeeeverything they've posted. Come up with a case. Now you have the confidence to call them out, use their posts as evidence and support.

Now take your case and sit on it for a while.

Because some good townie (or another DT) will probably FoS that person. This is a great jumping off point for you to introduce your case. If there is already suspicion, let that suspicion grow, add fuel to the fire, then introduce your stronger points (the fact that they are scum is made much more obvious in your posting now that you have your check for confidence) and make a strong case during this aggression to nail the lynch.

If YOU cold start the bandwagon and are really the only one making all these great points, the mafia is thinking "Well I guess we found our DT" and you're dead. If you're lucky you get medic protection but if the mafia is sure you're the DT I wouldn't be surprised if they doublestacked.

I don't suggest using code/hints/breadcrumbs because the mafia can decipher this juuuuuuuuust as easily as the town can. In fact, they can decipher it better because they are in contact with each other.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:14 GMT
#1208
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:16 GMT
#1213
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?

im killing kavdragon im saying the mafia is probably going to hit him for that
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:17 GMT
#1215
On April 12 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


Because he is being a fucking moron and acting anti-town. Useless spam posts pleading ignorance and trying to be "funny" are not helping the town find scum, or really do anything else, in my opinion he is either scum or a bored townie that it trolling, either way he's better dead than alive.

another thing i will do as mayor

i will never kill/vote for someone i believe to be town/assassin aligned just because they are "bad"
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:19 GMT
#1217
On April 12 2011 08:18 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
^correct

what else does it do "EVERYONE NEEDS TO SCUMHUNT RALLY AROUND MY GREAT IDEALS WHILE I CONTRIBUTE NOTHING"

i remember that dudes name. Radfield! Read his posts in Salem Mafia! That's exactly what kav's doing rn


Meta would really help your read.

If you will remember, Salem was the first game i played. I watched it a ton because it was one of, if not aidnai's first games as well. I was interested. Radfield's posting was something that made me think he was town, because I was a noob at the game. After I learned that he was mafia, that became the number one scum tell for me.

When I'm scum, I'm extremely careful not to post stuff like that. Call wifom all you want, but this is not how I play scum. I'm careful to avoid obvious scum tells like this.

In the event that I am actually lynched, I hope everyone remembers my analysis of Dr.H, and the way that I predicted mafia would act. The next step after alienating new players, destroying the heath of the thread, and getting someone into the mayor seat is to remove the analysts.

I believe that Dr.H is a good enough player to read me correctly, even if he is missing some of my meta. It has also been said that we shouldn't lynch veterans day one. I've held this position in, and out of game threads. Protact actually quoted my post a while ago where I was talking about how people expect veterans to play really well, when it's an unfair assessment of thier play.

well you're playing exactly like him so that's interesting

"i cant be mafia because i learned not to do the exact mafia-like thing i am doing right now so i wouldn't do it wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom"

you are my number one suspect and i am lynching you if i am elected. that is all.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:21 GMT
#1221
On April 12 2011 08:20 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?

im killing kavdragon im saying the mafia is probably going to hit him for that


But now we know that if he doesnt die he could be mafia. -.-


WIFOM not even worth considering

On April 12 2011 08:20 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


Because he is being a fucking moron and acting anti-town. Useless spam posts pleading ignorance and trying to be "funny" are not helping the town find scum, or really do anything else, in my opinion he is either scum or a bored townie that it trolling, either way he's better dead than alive.

another thing i will do as mayor

i will never kill/vote for someone i believe to be town/assassin aligned just because they are "bad"


I'm not voting for him because he is "bad" Im voting for him because he is anti-town and not even trying to hide it. Find me a single helpful post of his, there are none. He isn't even trying and is distracting the town.


But do you believe that he is mafia? I don't so I have bigger fish to fry. Scum like kavdragon or barundar for instance
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:23 GMT
#1226
On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.

no we wont
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 23:25 GMT
#1230
On April 12 2011 08:24 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:20 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?

im killing kavdragon im saying the mafia is probably going to hit him for that


But now we know that if he doesnt die he could be mafia. -.-


WIFOM not even worth considering

On April 12 2011 08:20 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


Because he is being a fucking moron and acting anti-town. Useless spam posts pleading ignorance and trying to be "funny" are not helping the town find scum, or really do anything else, in my opinion he is either scum or a bored townie that it trolling, either way he's better dead than alive.

another thing i will do as mayor

i will never kill/vote for someone i believe to be town/assassin aligned just because they are "bad"


I'm not voting for him because he is "bad" Im voting for him because he is anti-town and not even trying to hide it. Find me a single helpful post of his, there are none. He isn't even trying and is distracting the town.


But do you believe that he is mafia? I don't so I have bigger fish to fry. Scum like kavdragon or barundar for instance


I think I'm 60% certain he is mafia, I don't think any town player in his right mind would play like that. Kav has been posting large contentless posts I grant you that, but I'm not sure he is scum, again I'll be interested to see his flip, but I like lynching the troll better.

Also this is the first time I've seen you mention Barundar, whats your case against him if you dont mind explaining?

pointless because im killing kavdragon and its just a distraction

ill talk about it day 2
RIP Aaliyah
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