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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#2266
On April 15 2011 00:18 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 23:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
Scum, tries to add to the analysis of aidnai because the bandwagon isn't really getting along.

Upon seeing it fail, he starts a whole new bandwagon:


Does this mean you think MetalFace is innocent?

On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
The jewel in this setup. He declares he's somewhat suspicious about me


Did that catch your attention way back then? Seems to have been ignored by everyone else.

On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
He then re-inforces his point some more by trying to compare my play to my previous games, being ignorant to the fact that I would never play the same this game since in the other two I was unlynchable and not worried of looking like scum to anyone.


Oh I see, so you are worried about looking like scum? Thanks.

Nice OMGUS by the way.


Of course it did, you were accusing me

I didn't just want to be lynched day 1 so I decided to troll around causing some WIFOM, figured it'd both keep me from being sacked day 1 and make it easier for scum to use me as a lynch target to try to switch a bandwagon off scum.


Wait what? You're trying to cause some WIFOM to avoid being lynched? How is this pro-town in the slightest? What kind of town worries so much about being lynched, right from the start?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 15:39 GMT
#2271
On April 15 2011 00:36 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 00:32 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 15 2011 00:18 Rean wrote:
On April 14 2011 23:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
Scum, tries to add to the analysis of aidnai because the bandwagon isn't really getting along.

Upon seeing it fail, he starts a whole new bandwagon:


Does this mean you think MetalFace is innocent?

On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
The jewel in this setup. He declares he's somewhat suspicious about me


Did that catch your attention way back then? Seems to have been ignored by everyone else.

On April 14 2011 23:35 Rean wrote:
He then re-inforces his point some more by trying to compare my play to my previous games, being ignorant to the fact that I would never play the same this game since in the other two I was unlynchable and not worried of looking like scum to anyone.


Oh I see, so you are worried about looking like scum? Thanks.

Nice OMGUS by the way.


Of course it did, you were accusing me

I didn't just want to be lynched day 1 so I decided to troll around causing some WIFOM, figured it'd both keep me from being sacked day 1 and make it easier for scum to use me as a lynch target to try to switch a bandwagon off scum.


Wait what? You're trying to cause some WIFOM to avoid being lynched? How is this pro-town in the slightest? What kind of town worries so much about being lynched, right from the start?


The kind of town that doesn't want to be lynched maybe? If you were town would you let yourself get lynched because hey, you're a townie, you're supposed to be okay with being lynched?


It's the fact that you prioritize not getting lynched over scum hunting, which worries me. Why does it take someone to call you out for you to be willing to post a scum list or analysis.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#2283
On April 15 2011 01:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
-Find another scum for lynch


Suggestions?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#2303
So I finally had a chance to read through all coag's posts. As its been stated, scum hunting was nearly non-existent. Nearly everything was either related to why assassins are bad or why kav shouldn't be lynched. I would like to hear some analysis from him if he hopes to survive the day. Even if prot is a liar, I'm not convinced he is clean.

I want to bring up MetalFace again. Besides Red, the initial argument was largely ignored.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2011 12:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Another person I think we should look at:

MetalFace

I played with this guy as scum and he was a horrible, horrible lurker.

Here are some gems so far:

On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who.


On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count.


On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is.


From his previous game, I think this post speaks a lot to his approach as scum.

On October 22 2010 23:08 MetalFace wrote:
This is my first time playing and I didn't want to screw myself over by saying something dumb


Here are some follow-up posts.

On April 14 2011 12:49 MetalFace wrote:
Anywho, I think Prot is full of crap. Someone else mentioned it but I think it's true that he is actually just an assassin who is upset he didn't get immunity from becoming mayor, so now he needs a new lie to keep himself alive. I think Lynch All Liars should be applied here and we should just out him now, but apparently other people think differently. There's a lot of pointless arguing right now. Just kill Prot.


On April 14 2011 13:11 MetalFace wrote:
Prot lied. He either lied about being an assassin or lied about being a DT. I think it's the best policy of the town to lynch anyone who lies. This benefits the town because only townies can tell the truth the entire game.

As for who I think we should lynch otherwise, I'd say Rean. aidnai did a pretty nice analysis a while back. I think our next target though should have more to do with the results of Prot's flip and what happens at night. If Prot flips DT, then Coag will have a big sign over his head. If not, then we take a better look at anyone who supports Prot's lying ways.



On April 11 2011 12:15 MetalFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Posts like the ones MetalHead just made are pretty scummy imo, you have to look past the "wordswordswordswordswords" and think about what the direction of their post is. His post had no direction other than to appear contributive. That's not good.


My direction was the implication that people who attacked Protactinium's campaign have scummy motives.


On April 14 2011 13:11 MetalFace wrote:
If Prot flips DT, then Coag will have a big sign over his head. If not, then we take a better look at anyone who supports Prot's lying ways.



He contradicts himself, based on what the popular opinion holds. First, when many people were on board with supporting Prot, he calls his attackers scummy. Now that Prot has been outed, he calls his supporters scummy. In addition, when asked to bring up some lynch candidates, he takes the easy way out by pushing LAL on prot and mentioning Rean, who has already been analyzed by several people. I'm putting my vote on him for the moment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 21:53 GMT
#2307
On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!

And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.


Why do you keep arguing for lyching Prot. Why waste a lynch when the assassins can take care of him tonight?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#2313
On April 15 2011 06:58 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!

And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.


Why do you keep arguing for lyching Prot. Why waste a lynch when the assassins can take care of him tonight?

Cause Coag is a vet, and I'd rather lynch a Assassin over a vet.


Wouldn't you rather lynch scum (other than coag), than an assassin?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 14 2011 22:02 GMT
#2317
On April 15 2011 07:02 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:58 LSB wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!

And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.


Why do you keep arguing for lyching Prot. Why waste a lynch when the assassins can take care of him tonight?

Cause Coag is a vet, and I'd rather lynch a Assassin over a vet.


Wouldn't you rather lynch scum (other than coag), than an assassin?

Who else is up for the lynch?


Are you not going to bother looking and settle for black?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 00:00 GMT
#2384
On April 15 2011 08:59 DarthThienAn wrote:
follow the leader!

Yea, looking at the thread, I don't think flamewheel is a DT. Going with LSB because I'd rather not see Coag lynched solely on flamey's call.


I wouldn't mind lynching this guy either.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 00:28 GMT
#2412
On April 15 2011 09:23 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 09:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 15 2011 09:11 chaoser wrote:
If I am not DT, then you forgot the option that Coagulation is actually the Godfather. In this case, Scenario 1 would be false, and would work perfectly for the mafia. GMarshal would not be forced to bus him and will claim that Coagulation is a Vet. The other DTs will stay silent because they have no reason to believe that GMarshal is lying. Thus, Coagulation is saved for another day, town thinks he is "confirmed", and GMarshal is "proven" to be the DT


This is true

That's a good point.

In fact coagulation being godfather would explain the major save.

also I see absolutely no reason for you to tunnel coag unless you're the DT.


but if coag were the gf then how would protac know?

Are we ignoring the blatant contradctions now?

He is a proven liar, he either think coag is black or is praying he guessed right and is a goon to "prove" his claim.

But fine, you guys want to be stupid, then I'm not going to stop you.

Also Dr.H you thinking I'm town doesn't clear you from answering my analysis even if its "bad" I expect a response tomorrow ^_^

##Unvote
##Vote: Coagulation


If coag flips anything other than "mafia goon" protac, you are toast, so pray to whichever gods you worship.

Why people are still listening to a proven liar who is 100% an assassin, I will never understand.


Arguing one thing and voting the other?

"But fine, you guys want to be stupid, then I'm not going to stop you."

Wasn't one of your campaign promises that you wouldn't do this?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:12 GMT
#2452
On April 15 2011 10:09 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:07 GMarshal wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:03 LSB wrote:
On April 15 2011 09:55 GMarshal wrote:
On April 15 2011 09:53 LSB wrote:
Summary of the reasons why people are being pushed to lynch.
Flamewheel Lied about being DT. Is obviously ainitown
Coagulation Flamewheel said he is DT and check coagulation who turned up red
LSB Defends coagulation. Coagulation was checked by Flamewheel and is red. Therefore LSB is red.

All I can say is wow


You argue with them, I'm tired of fighting against a know liar and the town just flatly ignoring me, and/or siding with the assassin.

Town is going to lose this. It's like Mafia XXXV. The town is a mob and is only as smart as the leader. Although people may think individually they are smart and analyze much, most people play a game of follow the leader.

XXXVIII worked nicely since of the lucky Day 1 lynch got quiet a few of the vets to become the leader
However this game is kindof doomed. Anyone competent is either killed (kavdragon) or ignored. Tonight the mafia will snipe a few more vets.

In addition, the leaders that have emerged Flamewheel and DocH are not suited for their roles. Flamewheel because his role PM is not green or blue, DocH because he screws over any town he is in.

If I were you Gmarshal, I would count on my bodyguards. Once the town calms down, use your immunity to push for a lynch on the clear mafia.


I would, but I am "obviously mafia" for claiming to oppose an assassin, and in generally for trying to stop the mob from being stupid. Oh, and for making every effort to get myself elected as a DT, that too is "anti town".

I dont know what else to do for this people.

Wait for Coagulation to flip green, and me to get hit and flip green and wait for people to come back crying to you.


Are you claiming green?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:16 GMT
#2458
Anyone voting Protactnium is weaseling themselves out of making a real vote.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:18 GMT
#2464
On April 15 2011 10:18 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:17 kevconsim wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:14 Protactinium wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote:
I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick.

Everyone seems scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote Protactnium

For being "confused" you sure seem to know who you're voting for...I'd vote Coagulation if I were you. Just go through my posts to see why.



Ya know i started by doing that but i dont trust you.

you dont trust the assassin and confirmed liar? SHAME ON YOU!

You must be scum! horrible, horrible scum! Trust the liar, NOW! or he might tell the town he DTed you and make you out to be mafia!


You're not helping.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#2475
Way too many people voting for people they "don't want to vote for". I welcome you all on the MetalFace bandwagon.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#2477
On April 15 2011 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
I Think a pardon would clear this whole mess up.
Pardon whoever gets lynched Me or LSB
And watch assassin flip black tonight.
I can assure town he WILL flip black.


No.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:47 GMT
#2516
GMarshal, if you pardon, you are guaranteed to get lynched tomorrow. Don't even think about it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#2533
GMarshal, if this is one of those "see how the town reacts" moves, I swear I'll personally hunt you down.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#2549
On April 15 2011 11:06 GMarshal wrote:
It was late, chaoser and GMarshal were sharing a few drinks.


Dang it chaoser. Look what you've done!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 02:18 GMT
#2554
On April 15 2011 11:16 GMarshal wrote:
Because apparently I need to spell it out. These are principles that transcend this game. There are certain ways the town has to play to play well. There are reasons for LaL, and all my other policies, this isn't about the pardon being anti-town or not. This is about teaching you fools how town should play. If I have to die to prove the point that you are being stupid and playing badly then so be it.

At least I will have played correctly.

Sometimes its about more than just winning.


Are you trying to get on Ver's "TL Mafia Quiz" or something, because this is not the way you do it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 02:21 GMT
#2557
On April 15 2011 11:19 Coagulation wrote:
No hes trying to not let town Mislynch but you guys are too fucking sheep to realize it.


No if he was trying to prevent a mislynch he would suggest someone else to lynch. This is martyrdom. How is saving a "vet's" life anywhere close to the importance of a protected dt?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 15 2011 02:55 GMT
#2578
On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote:
EVeryone is so mad, besides me, yea, go me!


Only scum would be happy with this situation :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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