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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:06 GMT
#1019
EBWOP Oh and wiggles. Wiggles has been doing good too.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:12 GMT
#1023
On April 11 2011 14:00 Protactinium wrote:
Tnkted is nowhere near town.


Explain this. As far as I can see, your only reason for throwing dirt on me is the fact that I think your plan is stupid and I don't want a black in the office. If that's the only requirement for being mafia in your book you aren't the 'pro' player you're claiming to be, you're just trying to confuse the town.

You do realize that you have absolutely no more proof than anyone else that you are what you say you are? I'm convinced at this point that you're the one thats scum.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:15 GMT
#1024
Sigh.. its late. I'll post my analysis tomorrow, I have like 9 hours of class I need to be ready for.

-_- mondays suck. gnite yall!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:34 GMT
#1029
On April 11 2011 14:23 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 14:15 tnkted wrote:
Sigh.. its late. I'll post my analysis tomorrow, I have like 9 hours of class I need to be ready for.

-_- mondays suck. gnite yall!


Answer my question pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee. How is ON and lanaia playing pro town?


Oh. I don't know! I'm not saying that anyone on my list is pro town, just that they're acting like you should in this forum which is to say that they are not spamming, are spending time on their posts, and are therefore worth reading. I'd rather read one players long, well thought out post than I would one player's half a dozen posts responding to absolutely every single little spasm of activity in the thread.

Quality > quantity in this forum.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 13:55 GMT
#1058
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


Actually, Protract is the one that would give us the most information. ON is nowhere near a threat right now. Meanwhile, I am convinced that DrH is a horrible candidate for mayor. How many of the people that disagree with him has he targeted for a lynch? So far he's accused myself, Kav, Kita, and Potract of being scum. The only one he doesn't think is scum is GM and he's been taking Protract and other people's arguements to support that. He isn't running on a platform of substance, just one of accusing all the other candidates of scumming.

And lynching ON won't clear up anything. Maybe he was just acting like he disagreed with you to prove that you're actually green when you're read? You have know idea exactly how devious the mafia can act in this game. Lynching ON won't prove anyone's greenness other than ONs.

You need to be extremely careful with bandwagoning in this game. If nobody is disagreeing with you it means that mafia likes your idea, or is laying low because its late game and there are 6 people alive.

Do not be sheep, newbies.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 14:00 GMT
#1059
On April 11 2011 22:15 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:13 Mig wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is.

At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red.

Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut.


I wouldn't want you lynched next, the fact that you changed your vote to DrH means im going to have to re-read all your posts. I would probably have a lynch of M0nsterChef day2 if ON flips red and a check on GM.



*facepalm*

Mafia wants to act like town you know. It is very easy for them to vote for somebody pro-town in an attempt to fit in. MiB changing is vote doesn't prove anything.

What proves his greenness, IMO, its his response to DrHs tunneling. He's been playing more like a shy newbie green forced out into the open by DrH than a scum. If he was scum he'd being coached by the more experienced mafia members on his team, and he'd be posting small helpful little bits of content and trying to stay under the radar, which isn't particularly hard in this shitstorm of a thread. There are several newbies that match that description already.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#1104
On April 12 2011 01:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 01:21 GMarshal wrote:
So you guys want to lynch ON for information? You do realize that that is absolutely awful play, right?

Think about it, this is DAY 1 people are flip flopping right and left, we are surrounded by new players, they behave erratically so any information that lynching ON "reveals" about them is worthless . Lynching ON proves nothing either way, about me or any other players. If you people want to lynch him because you think he is a red, then thats fine, but lynching for information day 1, with no clearly drawn lines, and not much to go on is terrible, terrible play.

Come on people, lets lynch scum, not townies!

This is a good point from Gmarshal. "Let's lynch for information" is something scum love to say, because really "information" is just a WIFOM scenario that they can push in whichever way they want. If ON turns up green/red that doesn't really give us that much relevant information.

Mafia will often attack/accuse other mafia on day 1 and use confounding tactics to make sure they can not be discovered if a teammate is lynched.
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On April 11 2011 22:55 tnkted wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


Actually, Protract is the one that would give us the most information. ON is nowhere near a threat right now. Meanwhile, I am convinced that DrH is a horrible candidate for mayor. How many of the people that disagree with him has he targeted for a lynch? So far he's accused myself, Kav, Kita, and Potract of being scum. The only one he doesn't think is scum is GM and he's been taking Protract and other people's arguements to support that. He isn't running on a platform of substance, just one of accusing all the other candidates of scumming.

And lynching ON won't clear up anything. Maybe he was just acting like he disagreed with you to prove that you're actually green when you're read? You have know idea exactly how devious the mafia can act in this game. Lynching ON won't prove anyone's greenness other than ONs.

You need to be extremely careful with bandwagoning in this game. If nobody is disagreeing with you it means that mafia likes your idea, or is laying low because its late game and there are 6 people alive.

Do not be sheep, newbies.


I'd like to ask, what exactly is a platform of substance? It seems like your only goal here really is to discourage people from voting for me, even though you don't seem to think I'm scum. I have never accused Protactinium, you, or kita of being scum. Kavdragon/mib were the only two I made a real case for. Either you really misunderstood some things I said or you're putting words in my mouth to make me look bad. Which is it?
My Thoughts



OriginalName is still my top lynch candidate, but if I'm elected mayor I will re-read everybodies posting to make a decision. If I am elected and don't lynch OriginalName don't accuse me of "going back on my promises" or anything like that. I will lynch my top suspect no matter what, I will always vote for my top suspect, NO MATTER WHAT the "town" (a.k.a the mafia) wants me to do.

But let's talk about this ON situation.

If ON flips red, this is when you, the town aligned player, want to go through his posts. Who does he avoid talking to? Who does he defend? Does he ever attack/accuse someone in a way that seems fake? That's a good way to find potential teammates. From that list, go through all of their posts and try to analyse their behavior. Do they treat ON strangely? Are their posts scummy at all?

AFTER YOU DO ALLLLLLLL OF THAT

Go ahead and build a case. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. It does not "prove" Gmarshal is mafia or anyone else. If he flips green then it doesn't mean anything other than he played poorly, really. What it does mean that it is likely mafia aren't going to be outright opposing his lynch, maybe a couple will weakly, but by and large mafia will have no reason to try to stop him from being lynched. Keep that in mind, but don't run too far with that idea.

If I'm offering any "substance" (whatever that means), it's a mayor who won't let the mafia pressure him into making bad decisions. I will analyse independently and vote based on my own conclusions, that's the safest way.


If you keep posting like this I'll retract everything I've said about you. Finally, a post with content that gives a good example for the newbies!

But you're wrong. You have accused me of being scum several times, sheeping off protract. Several of your other 'gut' accusations have been people who disagreed with you.

Responding to protracts absolutely stupid list of scum/people who disagreed with his plan:
On April 11 2011 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
tnkted is assassin probably

kavdragon/mib are mafia

gmarshal is probably town imo


Responding to me immediately afterwards:
On April 11 2011 05:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im not pro-protact at all, that's just my read on you right now

i mean it's day 1 so these reads are shitty but i think the scum team is:
kavdragon
mib
aidnai
jackal58


and some other people idk, thats just a baseline guess i'm really only feeling good about kav and mib at the moment


Lets look at your scum list. MiB made one newbie post and you immediately jumped on him and started tunnelling. Jackal has been playing this game precicely the same as he has last time, with short contentless posts talking about how much he hates scum, etc, interspaced with witty play on words and condescending nicknames. He was green last time. Ironically, you started thinking he was scum immediately after arguing with him over... what exactly?
Aidnai I haven't analyzed very much, so you may be right about him. You've been tunnelling kav since the beginning of the game with no evidence, purely because he wanted to be mayor. Either give solid reasons, with quotes, for all of those people (including myself) or stop throwing around stupid accusations. Personally I think you've missed all of the real mafia in this thread. I'll be posting my own list later when I'm not in class (ie, like 9 or 10 CST tonight) and not one person on my list is on yours.

Disregarding all of that for a moment, I hope you keep posting like this because this is the sort of example we need to give newbies.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#1168
GM I was ok with your earlier ideas but your later ones are extremely scummy.
1. Lynching the pardoner? Are you serious? You backed off it quickly but I don't know how you could ever possibly think that removing half of the town's 'safe from night kill' roles would ever be a good idea.
2. Posting a list of what the blues should be doing? Extremely stupid, tells the mafia who they should avoid. Lists like that are only useful when we're dealing with a crowd half this size. If you were mafia that list would help you by getting all of the blues to focus their powers in one area, which you can easily avoid. Anyone you leave off the list is guarrenteed to be killable!
3. Calling vig hits on pandain? He's probably a blue that was stupid enough to announce himself in front of everybody, hes done nothing but lurk since then. Anybody in this thread with half a brain is aware of his role now, why could you possibly want to kill him? If you were mafia calling a vig hit on pandain would be the smartest thing you could do, since he would be saving you a hit at night.

I'm not saying you're town, but the conspiracy theorist part of my brain is going nuts with thoughts about how you and protract are mafia, and protract is getting bussed to get you into the mayors position.

TLDR; GMs ideas are horrible and I can't support his campaign. I withdraw my candidacy, my vote right now is more important than providing a valuable alternative.

I can't believe I'm typing this. ##vote DrH


Also everybody, about Serejai: I play SC2 with him sometimes and I am/was part of the TL minecraft server, and Serejai is the biggest troll I've ever seen. He was fucking with you. I don't know what hes doing this game but hes hard to read. As he posts more I'll be happy to translate into english for you. :D
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:25 GMT
#1172
Then make the pardoner save your first lynch. Its been suggested several times before. It would solve your problem entirely and would only cost us a lynch that is probably going to be town anyway.

I have to go to class, i'll respond ot other points when i get back.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#1283
On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?


Meapak says it's okay to pm the host:

[01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK
[01:14] <+Meapak> redff
[01:14] <+Meapak> dude
[01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post
[01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts


I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this.

Wtf?

Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles.

FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:47 GMT
#1300
Gm if its close enough i'd rather has you as pardoner than protract, so i'll switch my vote.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 02:49 GMT
#1317
Switching from DrH to GM because while GMs ideas are stupid, I'd still rather have him as mayor than DrH.

##unvote DrH
##vote GMarshal
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#1684
Keep pressuring GM guys, this is really good. Every time he posts I think he's town more and more.

Sorry I haven't posted lately, been busy with life. I'll post a bunch tomorrow.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 04:36 GMT
#1709
I noticed that too, but why would pandain sub out if he was Godfather? that seems like the most exciting role in the game.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 14:44 GMT
#1939
Damn, I should have stayed up for the night post.



Fare thee well town! To quote churchhill: “I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter.”

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#1989
I would want to sub in as well but unfortunately I already know who the scum is, so that would be kind of unfair.

Not telling though!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#2086
On April 14 2011 08:31 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:10 GMarshal wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:06 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:45 redFF wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


Why do you ask, are u dt/tracker? How about you post your opinions on anything for once. Do you trust Flamewheel? Do you think we should lynch coag? What do you think of the huge post i made trying to prove to other people you are scum??? You haven't made one post talking about your stance on any issues, come on!!! THIS GUY IS FUCKING SCUM


I'm not scum.


Wonderful defense, I love how you indexed it and everything so I could easily refernce the different points.

Theres a well bodied accusation against you out there. Please try to defend yourself better than this.


I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere.

You're either scum or stupid.

Alright. I have been gently calling Coag and GMarshall scum since the beginning of night 0. A little more so today.
I gotta believe scum has seen this. Looking over the people we lost last night
I can't quite understand why CubeDin v1 who was just put in the game would have been killed over me.
Same with tnkted. He did a lot of analysis but most of it's wrong because he doesn't understand the mechanics of the game.

Both GMarshall and Coag know that once I start calling somebody scum I don't quit. If either were scum I gotta believe I would be dead rather than Cube and Twinkles (Miss you my love).
Rean didn't post a lot in Insane. I was actually surprised he turned up blue in that game. But his posts weren't bullshit laden cesspools.
Serajatroll is another one I would love to lynch. Neither are town oriented. They both play the idiot card. I would rather see either of them go. Neither are an asset. Both are very likely scum.
I'm going to vote for Rean.



LOL

Note: trying to read anything out of this post is a waste of time, I just thought that was hilarious
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:19 GMT
#2211
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:21 GMT
#2212
You guys have no idea how much more interesting this is when you know who the scum is.

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:28 GMT
#2217
mafia is talking to me in PM

they say hi, and that you guys are all going to die

like i did

GO GET EM TOWN
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
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