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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 20:08 GMT
#2025
I know he hasn't but wouldn't it be smart to put something out there instead of dying useless? I'm not saying Coag is going to die 100% but there's a high chance, especially if he's not mafia then mafia will probably try to put votes on him.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 20:09 GMT
#2027
Also, I endorse the idea of voting Protact, have a VIGI shoot Coag at night. Assuming there's a vigi of course. Or actually voting anyone that is detrimental to town really. There are quite a few this game.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 20:20 GMT
#2032
Oh right, he will die if we don't medic protect him. That means we just need to shoot Coag at night, and for the mean time find someone worthy of a lynch that is not Coag/Protact.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 22:26 GMT
#2052
On April 14 2011 07:18 Kenpachi wrote:
Scum Team
Coagulation
Barundar
GMarshal
RedFF
Mister Wiggles
Robellicose
ilovejonn
~~~~~~

-runs away like a noob who accuses people and dont post reasons why they are scum because their reason for believe they are scum is actually bandwagoning other people's idea on the people they accused-

Thanks for contributing. That list is very helpful. /sarcasm
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 22:34 GMT
#2055
I like how people I feel uneasy about and dislike are in here though:

From vote count:

Coagulation: 10
Protactinium
DoctorHelvetica
kevconsim
chaoser
urashimakt
Rean
Mig

bumatlarge
DarthThienAn
Serejai
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 13 2011 22:49 GMT
#2068
On April 14 2011 07:46 The_Roist wrote:
I voted for DoctorH on the grounds that I thought he had the best ideas on how to deal with the ninja mayoral campaign, so come voting time I will probably stay true to that and try to lynch coag. Furthermore, the town has many good followups no matter what coag flips but the plan is not perfect, I see three potential problems:

1. GMarshal pardons coag.

2. We had one vigi, he is dead.

3. Flamewheel is bussing coag and if the stories I hear about his analytical skills are true, he proceeds to mislead the town all the way to a mafia win.

aside: you "liquidians" sure post a ton. I don't think I've ever seen so many replies in such a short time, I guess I should adapt to this.

How do you know we don't have more than 1 vigi?

I also agree with the analysis on Rean. Especially the trolling part about being mafia. If he were town why on earth would you do something stupid like that. BUT if he were mafia, it would be a good idea since people will be like, he's just trolling, we don't know if he's speaking the truth or not, LOTS OF WIFOM, let's just ignore him. Exactly what scum would want.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:17 GMT
#2327
On April 15 2011 07:09 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:58 LSB wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:54 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!

And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.

Would you lose a DT over a Vet?
Think about it, Protact is a waste of a lynch. Directs KP (black) to 1 person if Coag is town.

He is not a DT


Um, I think this guy is right cause he's a DT (check his icon next to name)

Seriously, what is up with this guy? Why are we keeping him alive? Because he's new? When I was new I actually tried to play the game.. but this is just ridiculous.

Also, I will not discuss the Coag vs Prot situation anymore, and I'm keeping my vote on who I think is scum. Vig hitting Coag and letting Prot die at night is the best situation if Coag is red and Prot is blue. If Prot is DT then he knows he did his best and at least did a 1 - 1 trade for town despite town not voting for Coag. The only BAD situation I can think of for town is if we have no Vig's left after Pandain died. Therefore if Coag lives the night and claims a hit, and if no VIGI's step up to claim they shot Coag, I'm willing to bet Coag is scum.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:19 GMT
#2328
EDWOP: Vig hitting Coag and letting Prot die at night is the best situation if Coag is red and Prot is black.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:25 GMT
#2334
On April 15 2011 07:19 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
The only BAD situation I can think of for town is if we have no Vig's left after Pandain died. Therefore if Coag lives the night and claims a hit, and if no VIGI's step up to claim they shot Coag, I'm willing to bet Coag is scum.


or a red can claim vigi, that they shot coag but coag didn't die "proving" he's a vet?

Hmm, that's bad too. Ah shit, that's actually a really good point if a mafia does that we won't know if they're telling the truth unless there's a DT check.. + we don't know how many blue roles there are..

Also, LSB I agree with your points. Now that I think about it, Prot's DT/black claim is very good for him.. Mafia might be hesistant to hit him at night if he's truly black, but they would also want to hit a DT. Blacks wouldn't want to hit him since they have a secured black target to use their last hammer on, or at least their DT check on Prot first. This situation just gets messier unless we lynch one of them.. ugh.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:28 GMT
#2340
On April 15 2011 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 07:14 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Read this

So, you, yes you. Why are you lynching Coagulation? Are you trusting the words of a Mafia (presumptuous) who lied about being an Assassin how do you know that, and has been Proven by Gmarshall to be lying about his role of detective?

Why are you lynching coagulation? Because you think he's red?

How about this. A compromise.

The Plan:
Today we lynch Prot no
Tonight we will call for a Vig hit on Coagulation LOL NO

If Coagulation is hit and survives the night, that means he is vet. If he isn't vet, he'll just be dead. Win win. This makes perfect sense if you are scum and coagulation is not. This means town wastes lynch on the assassin and we lose a vig hit that will be useful later. The vig hit is NOT to be used as a confirmation power, don't be silly. In a 40 person game that's just stupid.

Why this is preferable that letting Prot live
Contrary to popular belief, Mafia and assassins have little incentive to kill Prot. LOL This is because they know that if they let Prot live, he'll just be lynched. Incorrect. Assassins have a HUGE incentive to kill Prot. Because A= they gain 1 KP, B= they come closer to winning the game. This is good for them because it takes heat off of them for one day.

We will need to lynch Prot one way or the other. If we do it this way according to plan, we 1) Save a lynch. 2) If coag is saying the truth, we'll have 1 more townie.

we DO NOT need to lynch Prot because there is no way assassins wont hit him on night 2. This is a plan meant to make town WASTE a lynch and a VIG hit. You've contradicted yourself a lot trying to put this "plan" into place, I'll have a longer post on you coming up shortly.


Reading LSB's recent posts has put me in a bit of a new perspective. If he's scum, I doubt the mafia is all going along with this. Unfortunately Coagulations alignment gives a HUGE amount of information.

I think we should lynch Rean or m0nsterchef, someone like that. Have GMarshal check coagulation on night 2 and report the results. This way we can get the "information" without potentially losing a townie.

That's my plan : /

Also going to take a look at: redFF

I know GM claimed DT, but can we really trust his claim as well? He has bodyguards and no one can check GM. He also hasn't revealed who he checked Night 1 in order to protect him, but I can understand that.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:34 GMT
#2345
Actually LSB's post ninja'd mine while I just came back, and when you bring a better case to the table when there are wayyy more people scummier than me to be considered a lynch target for today (Rean, Serejai, etc.), I might consider defending myself. Actually I just did. Would you rather lynch a target 70% likely to be scum or 50%?
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:36 GMT
#2347
On April 15 2011 07:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 07:28 ilovejonn wrote:
On April 15 2011 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 15 2011 07:14 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Read this

So, you, yes you. Why are you lynching Coagulation? Are you trusting the words of a Mafia (presumptuous) who lied about being an Assassin how do you know that, and has been Proven by Gmarshall to be lying about his role of detective?

Why are you lynching coagulation? Because you think he's red?

How about this. A compromise.

The Plan:
Today we lynch Prot no
Tonight we will call for a Vig hit on Coagulation LOL NO

If Coagulation is hit and survives the night, that means he is vet. If he isn't vet, he'll just be dead. Win win. This makes perfect sense if you are scum and coagulation is not. This means town wastes lynch on the assassin and we lose a vig hit that will be useful later. The vig hit is NOT to be used as a confirmation power, don't be silly. In a 40 person game that's just stupid.

Why this is preferable that letting Prot live
Contrary to popular belief, Mafia and assassins have little incentive to kill Prot. LOL This is because they know that if they let Prot live, he'll just be lynched. Incorrect. Assassins have a HUGE incentive to kill Prot. Because A= they gain 1 KP, B= they come closer to winning the game. This is good for them because it takes heat off of them for one day.

We will need to lynch Prot one way or the other. If we do it this way according to plan, we 1) Save a lynch. 2) If coag is saying the truth, we'll have 1 more townie.

we DO NOT need to lynch Prot because there is no way assassins wont hit him on night 2. This is a plan meant to make town WASTE a lynch and a VIG hit. You've contradicted yourself a lot trying to put this "plan" into place, I'll have a longer post on you coming up shortly.


Reading LSB's recent posts has put me in a bit of a new perspective. If he's scum, I doubt the mafia is all going along with this. Unfortunately Coagulations alignment gives a HUGE amount of information.

I think we should lynch Rean or m0nsterchef, someone like that. Have GMarshal check coagulation on night 2 and report the results. This way we can get the "information" without potentially losing a townie.

That's my plan : /

Also going to take a look at: redFF

I know GM claimed DT, but can we really trust his claim as well? He has bodyguards and no one can check GM. He also hasn't revealed who he checked Night 1 in order to protect him, but I can understand that.


because gmarshal proved mechanically that protactinium wasn't the DT. IF he was scum gambling to save coag he wouldn't do it in that nature, he'd say "bullshit cuz im the DT and i checked coag and he's veteran" or something like that. But he went into specifics about the way the DT works that only a DT would know.

That makes his claim pretty trustworthy in my eyes.

Also last game I was in (not tooo long ago) Gmarshal was the wishy washiest and most inactive lurker scum I've ever seen. Totally not how he's playing this game. Shit he gunned to get me lynched. He's just a bad scumhunter.

Huh... I actually would have assumed he PM'd the host to ask specifically about how a DT works. His claim is as trust worthy as Prot's, and Prot even explained why he just said Coag is mafia, why go into specifics if he is not a Roleblocker and just a Goon? Look, I am not here to defend Prot or push GM. I still stand that I feel Rean and Serejai are scum.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:38 GMT
#2350
Do you see me having my votes changed? All I was stating was possible situations that would turn out as a bad outcome for town. Have you looked at Serejai? He bandwagon'd the vote WITHOUT even talking about it, his last post was about DARK TEMPLAR. And here we go discussing about me and LSB coincedentally posting at the same time.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#2353
Wow Dr. H. Yeah, go ahead and lynch/hit me. Once I flip green you'll REALLY have to reconsider what you are looking at to find scum this game. AND STOP NINJA REPLYING TO MY POSTS, you are too fast.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:45 GMT
#2361
On April 15 2011 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 07:40 ilovejonn wrote:
Wow Dr. H. Yeah, go ahead and lynch/hit me. Once I flip green you'll REALLY have to reconsider what you are looking at to find scum this game. AND STOP NINJA REPLYING TO MY POSTS, you are too fast.

Why don't you defend yourself properly instead of this guilt trip/sob story/psych me out bs

Okay, I'll defend myself properly when you build a proper case around me enough to get me lynched/shot. But if you think, or anyone else for that matter, that I am scum compared to a possible 3-4 scum targets up to this point with my posts, then I have nothing to say.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:48 GMT
#2364
I like how Dr. H is saying we have connections merely due to the fact that we post when we are on TL at the same time coincidentally. So what, you want me to respond to post that I have a thought on when I'm not around the computer/have time and then let the pages slowly drift by on spam?
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 14 2011 22:53 GMT
#2365
Okay, look. I don't like where this is going. If you think I am scum and want to build a case around me fine. I will defend myself when I need to. I will let you have the last post on this matter if you will, but for now I will shut up and think about the situation and think of clear lynch targets.

I still FOS Rean and Serejai. If you are a newb Serejai please read some games and post better. You have not responded to any attacks towards you, whether you realized it or not, and are making people believe you are scum trying to coast along as a newbie more and more. Last game in Insane mafia 2, Lemonwalrus said it was his first game, Coag believed him to be a townie trying to learn the game when in fact he was scum, I will not tolerate people coasting by as a newb.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 15 2011 05:14 GMT
#2678
On April 15 2011 14:14 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 14:12 Serejai wrote:
On April 15 2011 13:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Serajai is being given an official warning for talking about game related material outside of the game. A reminder that any discussion about the game outside of the thread is modkillable behavior. Serejai isn't being modkilled because it was indirect and could be construed differently


I don't particularly enjoy being called out for something I didn't do. Someone asked me why I was trolling this game, and I gave them an example scenario to explain my reasoning. DrHelvetica misinterpreted my post and somehow that's apparently my fault.

Two issues with this...

a) Nowhere in the rules for this game or for these forums in general does it say you cannot discuss games outside of their own thread, so even had I done it intentionally it's not a rule myself or any new player would know

b) You didn't even bother talking to me about this. Had you come to me and said "could you edit your post to not sound like you're talking about a current game", I would have complied. Instead, you discuss it behind my back and come to a decision based on the incorrect interpretation of another player. That's just horrible moderation any way you look at it.

Not even going to bother with the poor decision making regarding Flamewheel and GM's pardon because I think most people feel the same way, and it will show after the game ends.

So, I'd like to request a replacement for my spot. I'm not interested in continuing this game with the current hosts.

You won't be missed idiot.

You're gonna get warned.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 15 2011 05:23 GMT
#2684
On April 15 2011 14:22 Foolishness wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that Oreo spells it Double Stuf and not Double stuff? Or Stuffed for that matter.

I don't eat Oreo.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 15 2011 05:25 GMT
#2691
Hohohohohohoho.
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