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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:00 deconduo wrote: @Blacks If you want town to win the item game over reds (which I assume you do) kill Lemon tonight. Wtf is this? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 27 2011 23:43 Tackster wrote: I also want to insert a message here @Annul. You claimed special 'secret' information from the PM circle. As was obvious you outed your PMs and there was absolutely no information that anything was going on except people were basing there opinions on what was going on in the thread anyway. Why keep a secret when a. There is no secret & b. It doesn't help town anyway... I would refer you to: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=3974110 The secret he revealed is you let slip you received a PM from RoL. And as a first time player it's fascinating that you would be picking the "how to play scum tips" to determine how to play. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Annul is town, Tack is town. Unless one of Jackal/Coag is pulling some insane stunt they are both town. Lemon hasn't done anything all game, just has a bunch of filler posts. Easy process of elimination. I'd be 90% sure of it being lemon, if not then its 50/50 on jackal/coag. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:21 Jackal58 wrote: The secret he revealed is you let slip you received a PM from RoL. And as a first time player it's fascinating that you would be picking the "how to play scum tips" to determine how to play. The thread is 'Teamliquid Mafia Forum Game Rules and Tips'. Referenced on basically every mafia thread in this forum. The post regards scum players. I said that I thought this would work for green as well. Read thoroughly before you make accusations. As for the RoL post - as you can see I clearly explain it's a mistake on my part. As you should know because you sent me that PM: From: Jackal58 Subject: Item game Date: 3/26/11 05:33 So who is red and who is black? And btw that isn't the 'secret'. There is no secret. Annul was simply claiming that IG players were privy to mechanics the main thread weren't. As insanious pointed out quite well that argument only stands when the PM circle is comprised of only town. In this case we have a PM circle that can be leaked to black and red as well. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
And lemon feels very green to me. Can you show me where hes posting filler? I'm convinced either jack or tack is the mafia. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:21 Jackal58 wrote: The secret he revealed is you let slip you received a PM from RoL. And as a first time player it's fascinating that you would be picking the "how to play scum tips" to determine how to play. I call bullshit on the whole "it was a mistake on my part I mixed them up". No fucking way is RoL anywhere close to Jackal. Not to mention he's not in the item game. I bet you looked at your PM box, wrote the first name at the top cause you weren't looking too carefully to make up a lie and it just happened to be RoL. If someone shoots Tack/we decide to lynch him tomorrow and he flips red, we gotta take a look RoL. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:31 tnkted wrote: No... black doesn't want anyone to win the item game for as long as possible. You advising them on who to kill is extremely suspicious. And lemon feels very green to me. Can you show me where hes posting filler? I'm convinced either jack or tack is the mafia. -Until you posted this, there was a chance they would listen to me. Good job for fucking that up. -This is the only post of his I can find where he gives any opinions on anyone. Even then he is EXTREMELY wishy-washy about it. Stuff like "reasonably certain he's town' 'I've got a scum read on him, but ... I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he flips town' The only people he really backs up are Jackal and Coag who both think the sun shines out of his ass. He ofc pushes Tack because Jackal and Coag told him to. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
From: Jackal58 Subject: Item game Date: 3/26/11 05:33 So who is red and who is black? To: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 12:41 The question of the day... lemon we have little to go with, darmo is back and i'm catching up on his meta, coag, you and annul are the ones i have opinions on. Why should I trust you? Any thoughts? From: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 12:42 Somebody hasn't read the thread. To: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 12:42 catching up on it now From: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 12:43 You're not going to like me man. To: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 13:23 Insane <- Mafia is definitely where you belong Just got to your utterly unproven, unresearched undefended plan to auto-win the IG on your word alone... Still some pages to go you mad, mad man From: Jackal58 Subject: Re: Item game Date: 3/26/11 13:25 You scum. Dunno if it's black or red but you scum. To: Jackal58 Subject: RE: Item Game Date: 3/26/11 14:14 OK Guys there is obviously a circling of wagons going on here... I'm PMing this to all mini-game players with a pearl of wisdom: THERE IS SCUM IN THE MINI-GAME We each need to rely on our OWN opinions and we need to realise that strategy is going to win the mini-game not dumb luck. So I expect everybody in the mini-game to reply to this PM and evaluate me using my bloody opinion as well... 2 of us are mafia and they will be the one's sowing dissent and FOSsing the others. We need to work out our Steal/Defend/Use strategy, we need to try and assess item powers and get scum to slip. If you're all going to genuflect to Jackal veteran status and ignore me this is going to auto-fail for town. Also apart from Jackal and Coagulation I don't really see many IG related posts. The mayorship is seems basically decided, right now the only 2 worries are how will we handle this mini-game and how will we out the scum. Yours Expectantly, A backstabbed green From: Jackal58 Subject: Re: RE: Item Game Date: 3/26/11 14:21 If you're green Darm and annul are scum. It's not a bad thing to die for 2 scum. To: Jackal58 Subject: Re: RE: Item Game Date: 3/26/11 14:27 Which i'm perfectly willing to do but i do have questions: 1 - how do i know you aren't scum? 2 - how do you know that coag and annul are then clear? 3 - do you have any strategy suggestions for the mini-game or are you just interested in playing russian roulette with no plan? After that I got no reply from jackal. And is plainly visible there was 0 scumhunting on his part... | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:36 chaoser wrote: I call bullshit on the whole "it was a mistake on my part I mixed them up". No fucking way is RoL anywhere close to Jackal. Not to mention he's not in the item game. I bet you looked at your PM box, wrote the first name at the top cause you weren't looking too carefully to make up a lie and it just happened to be RoL. If someone shoots Tack/we decide to lynch him tomorrow and he flips red, we gotta take a look RoL. So much this. The only way RoL is in your inbox is because you're both scum. The only way you can confuse my name with Rol's is Oh wait there isn't. The only way you can make that mistake is by having a PM conversation with RoL at the same time you are having one with annul. The only way you can be having a PM conversation with RoL is because you're scum. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:36 chaoser wrote: I call bullshit on the whole "it was a mistake on my part I mixed them up". No fucking way is RoL anywhere close to Jackal. Not to mention he's not in the item game. I bet you looked at your PM box, wrote the first name at the top cause you weren't looking too carefully to make up a lie and it just happened to be RoL. If someone shoots Tack/we decide to lynch him tomorrow and he flips red, we gotta take a look RoL. This unfortunately is the point where I do in fact have to claim a mistake based on the fact it's my first game. Early on RoL started making claims that we should elect him, he would scum hunt all the scum to death, his reads are amazing, blah blah blah Then Jackal came up with his plan that fits in exactly with RoL's behaviour. So I accidentally confused the two as they were playing similarly. Anyway the whole point behind my mentioning the PM for RoL/Jackal is that he asked the same question of me (same wording and everything) as Annul. For that reason I asked annul whether he received/sent that message to Jackal(who i called RoL) to check if they were in cahoots. Go check annuls posts -he basically states he asked Jackal that who seeming to like it, used it on other IG players... | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:25 Lemonwalrus wrote: This is what makes me think lemon is clear. He picked up on my breadcrumb. I mean, its not all that hidden, so you might be right, but it is certainly evidence that he is green nonetheless. I'm trying not to take my plan too seriously, because bum and them are right: it could very easily fuck us, but I think to disregard the results entirely would be stupid. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
LSB would it be ok if I publish a screenshot of my inbox to prove a mistake i made? It contains no other information relevant to the game - it only shows I have been exclusively PMing IG players hopefully he says yes and this stupid argument can be put to sleep. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:46 Tackster wrote: This unfortunately is the point where I do in fact have to claim a mistake based on the fact it's my first game. Early on RoL started making claims that we should elect him, he would scum hunt all the scum to death, his reads are amazing, blah blah blah Then Jackal came up with his plan that fits in exactly with RoL's behaviour. So I accidentally confused the two as they were playing similarly. Anyway the whole point behind my mentioning the PM for RoL/Jackal is that he asked the same question of me (same wording and everything) as Annul. For that reason I asked annul whether he received/sent that message to Jackal(who i called RoL) to check if they were in cahoots. Go check annuls posts -he basically states he asked Jackal that who seeming to like it, used it on other IG players... The only similarity between myself and RoL is we are both in this game. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
If I did make a mistake and use the wrong name why is it more likely that I used a name from another PM and not a name from the main thread? When I started all your names looked like the similar the non-referenced gibberish all over the internet. Now that the game has gotten further I can finally remember (some) of the names of people in this forum. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
When I started all your names looked like the usual non-referenced gibberish all over the internet Ya - i said it  | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:50 Tackster wrote: LSB would it be ok if I publish a screenshot of my inbox to prove a mistake i made? It contains no other information relevant to the game - it only shows I have been exclusively PMing IG players It wouldn't prove anything. All that it proves is your either right or have good Photoshop skills. Well, you could even modify it with MS Paint, it's not like it's that hard. The only thing you can confirm is that you haven't broken any rules yet. Otherwise you'd be dead | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 28 2011 00:59 Tackster wrote: Besides the only way RoL can PM me is if he's red and i'm red. If that's the case how can I assume he is allowed to PM annul? If I did make a mistake and use the wrong name why is it more likely that I used a name from another PM and not a name from the main thread? When I started all your names looked like the similar the non-referenced gibberish all over the internet. Now that the game has gotten further I can finally remember (some) of the names of people in this forum. The point is that he can't PM annul -_-. If they're both mafia and that was some crazy play, which i doubt since annul left the other game too and asked to be replaced, then that's some pretty good acting. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
I confirm I haven't broken any rules....yet | ||
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