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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#2531
What if the extra bullet was a reference to RoL 'shooting' annul during the night, just to fuck with us? Would explain a lot.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 18:30 GMT
#2534
On March 29 2011 03:30 Lanaia wrote:

I'll be back in a few hours. I'm off to shower and lend my computer to my boyfriend 'cause his kind of fell apart.

What I think we know so far:
There is at least one protown mason-style group that isn't blue. (GMarshal's group)
GMarshal himself was targetted for a kill (this is likely) and it wasn't him as a bodyguard stepping in to save bum.
We still have a ton of lurkers.


The item game is confusing the hell out of me. The mood ring is out of play as is the potato, right? Do we think they'll be coming back in after there's a win?



Potato is gone. Mood ring will go to the winners of the item game along with the other ones.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 18:34 GMT
#2537
On March 29 2011 03:32 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 03:29 Rean wrote:
On March 29 2011 03:28 chaoser wrote:
On March 29 2011 03:27 Rean wrote:
If the bodyguards actually don't take shots, then my first thought would be that the failed shot was actually at Bum, who got bussed with Lemonwalrus. Obviously, that shot would fail since there was another bodyguard still alive. The shot was fired at Lemonwalrus initially in that case.

Black's shot would've gone to GMarshal, since they didn't really know who to hit and just randomly picked him.

Annul got shot by the reds and Coagulation then, the question still remains: why or how did coagulation end up shooting annul?



Kav claimed he got shot....


Why would mafia try to shoot Kav when their interest is in the item game?


Cause Kav is a good mafia player? Why would they shoot both annul, make coag shoot annul, and also try to shoot LW? Why do you think LW got shot? Even if Bum hadn't been bussed LW would have lived a shot.


Why are people claiming LW was a target for a shot?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 20:10 GMT
#2568
On March 29 2011 04:59 Coagulation wrote:
Im just sick of this shit
Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar
This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot
deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar
ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity

fuck you guys you deserve to lose.


So you expect everyone to listen to you, to believe you 100% when you don't have the respect to do the same?

Calm down, quit the cursing and think before you post. Raging will lose you the game, regardless of your alignment. If you want people to listen to you put forth a logical reasoned argument with evidence to back it up.

For the record, I never called you a liar I simply said you were wrong.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 00:21 GMT
#2603
On March 29 2011 07:00 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 06:23 BrownBear wrote:
Coag, you too, if you happen to read this. If either of you plays in XXXVIII and pulls this shit, you'll be permabanned from any games I host. Play the damn game to completion.


im not quitting the game. im just not gonna argue about whos mafia in the item game anymore.
You guys know who i have told you is mafia.
do whatever the fuck you guys want.


Theres a very strong case for the mafia to be either Lemon or Jackal. I think its Lemon. Would you at least not be as blind/stubborn as Jackal and think about it? The facts are there.

I don't know why the two of you are so narrow minded but it really isn't helping the slightest. You have no case against Tack whatsoever and you refuse to admit it. When Tack flips town it will be too late, and chances are you'll have cost us the entire game.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 09:57 GMT
#2752
1. Tack is town
2. Lemon is Maf
3. Kav is Black

I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you.

3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game:

Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie


I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#2753
PS: iGrok is Black too
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 11:11 GMT
#2758
On March 29 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote:
@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ.


Unless the driver gets mindcontrolled?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 11:12 GMT
#2759
On March 29 2011 19:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 18:57 deconduo wrote:
1. Tack is town
2. Lemon is Maf
3. Kav is Black

I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you.

3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game:

Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie


I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though.

Well fuck this changes things, Kenpachi may still be a red that the Blacks found somehow and want lynched... in fact this may make the case stronger. But I withdraw my green call on Kav, wanna hear more from decon


What do you want to hear?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 11:27 GMT
#2761
My problem with people voting for Tack is as follows. You said he was mafia and then fit the night actions around that. This is the wrong way to go about it. You need to take a step back and assess each situation separately:

1) Tack is maf
2) Coag is maf
3) Jackal is maf
4) Lemon is maf

What people have done is taken situation 1 and just fit everything around that. Apart from me and Rean, no one has considered anything else.

Another thing that bothers me is why double stack on annul? If bum is correct, and it was 100% mafia that hit annul and not black, then its a strong possibility that the redirect wasn't done by mafia.

Here is another question. Can anyone show me something scummy that Tack has done?
He stole from Jackal, but every other person in the game would have done the same. The shot from Coag was redirected from him to annul, but there is nothing to show that Tack did it, or even that mafia did it. The entire case is Coag's gut feeling that Lemon is town.

This is what has happened:

Jackal and Coag come up with a plan to verify each other. Jackal thinks Lemon is town. By a process of elimination they say that 2/3 of annul/tack/darmo are the scum. They try to get Tack lynched first because they think he is the easiest to lynch. No evidence, no scumminess, nothing. They throw in a few bullshit PMs that mean nothing just to try and give the appearance of having done something when that isn't the case.

Bum lynches darmo and annul flips town. Keep in mind that Jackal and Coag STILL HAVEN'T VERIFIED EACH OTHER! Coag even admits that if Tack is town, Jackal is probably the mafia.

In fact, the ONLY reason Tack is the prime suspect right now is because Lemon is Coag's friend and Tack isn't. That's it. If it was the other way around, Lemon would be the one up for a lynch.

Finally, Jackal and Coag have just been raging, shouting, repeating the same things over and over and over. They have NO CASE. NOTHING. ZERO. Not one person voting for Tack has thought for themselves, they are just sheeping two tunnellers.

I'm most disappointed in bum, its clear he hasn't even read the thread properly.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 11:31 GMT
#2762
Oh and the argument about Tack covering both bases fails too. Coag claimed he had a stun gun that would zap people who visited him. Redirecting him would do nothing. It would make 100% more sense to redirect Jackal and steal from Coag.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 11:31 GMT
#2763
EBWOP: Unless you are Lemon/Jackal and know that Coag is the one with the real gun.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 12:13 GMT
#2766
On March 29 2011 21:10 Jackal58 wrote:
You guys need to sleep at night.
Decon - You claiming to be vet?


Yep, posted role PM earlier if you wanna read it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 12:14 GMT
#2767
On March 29 2011 20:57 CubEdIn wrote:
So it's between Lemon and Tackster, and it doesn't make sense for mafia to double-shoot Annul if they KNEW Coag had the real gun. It would make much more sense to use the "stun gun" to RB annul's potato.

Anything else makes a lot less sense than this theory.


The theoretical stun gun blocks people who visit Coag not people that Coag visits. So using it to stop the potato makes no sense.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 13:15 GMT
#2772
On March 29 2011 22:06 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 22:03 OriginalName wrote:
On March 29 2011 21:58 Rean wrote:
On March 29 2011 21:57 OriginalName wrote:
On March 29 2011 21:13 deconduo wrote:
On March 29 2011 21:10 Jackal58 wrote:
You guys need to sleep at night.
Decon - You claiming to be vet?


Yep, posted role PM earlier if you wanna read it.


Isnt claiming vet kinda pointless? Like Im still newbish (Nothing to do with the lurking I actually wanted to do analysis yesterday but ended up in the hospital >_<)
But wouldnt scum be less inclined to hit you after you claim vet (Which kinda ruins the point of hit absorption?)


He's claiming it to point out that Kavdragon might very well be black.


Im not claiming med by any means but wouldbt Kav be a half decent choice for med protection as Bum has BGs and RoL has been playing a rather quiet game for himself (Do note this is exactly why I did not shoot him DF mafia) So while possible doesnt it seem unlikely?

If you are med protected you don't get told you were hit. Medic is informed.

I'm pretty sure kav claimed vet as well, though I might be mistaken on this. He certainly implied it if he didn't state it outright.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 13:17 GMT
#2773
EBWOP: Nevermind, I was mistaken.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 13:29 GMT
#2775
On March 29 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
So if a black was hit why claim it?


Safest thing to do. No reason for a townie to stay quiet if he was hit. If it was a mafia hit, mafia would know he's black. If it was a vig hit, vig would know he's red/black.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 16:46 GMT
#2801
On March 30 2011 01:41 Tackster wrote:
Ok sorry about the multiple posts - i thought people would prefer broken up posts rather than a long one - now I know for the future!!

Why is no one commenting on the fact that the stun gun didnt claim to work the way people are saying??


Because people are lazy and would rather take the easy lynch than think for themselves.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 17:30 GMT
#2812
On March 30 2011 02:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 02:16 Tackster wrote:
People are discussing whether or not Kav is black...

This stun-gun scenario makes no sense. Why won't people address that instead????

And CubEdIn I figured it makes sense to vote Lemon instead. I just think that Jackal is mafia and wanted to leave no confusion for tomorrow.

So what I'll do is this- I'm voting Lemon for now and hoping people ACTUALLY CHECK THIS STUN GUN SCENARIO. It doesn't make sense. I'm a green and you are very capable of coming to that conclusion if you check for yourself instead of trusting to posts that reference others WRONG.



If i am lynched tonight when I flip green remember that we need to read into both Lemon AND Jackal. I still think what happened earlier points to Jackal. In fact even though i'm quite certain coagulation is probably green no one can be certain. CHECK THINGS don't get lazy...

I fully expect to die tonight no matter what color you flip. You stole my band aid you bastard.



Your fault for saying you were going to shoot him. Next time don't tunnel townies and you might live <3
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 29 2011 19:00 GMT
#2827
Lemon's Posts since yesterday's lynch:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 28 2011 09:48 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Items in the item game were RNGed, you can not make any inferences into alignment based on what item someone has.


On March 28 2011 09:54 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 09:50 Coagulation wrote:
what lemon ment to say was
yes hes scummy please dont kill me.

yes tack is scummy (imo) but i just don't want the town to be following theories that are based on a false understanding of the rules.

(also please don't kill me)


Day Post

On March 28 2011 12:07 Lemonwalrus wrote:
There there jackal, there there.

Once town wins the IG you can play with the bandages, I promise.


On March 28 2011 12:15 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Ok, so unless some crazy shit happens in the next 47 hours, I think I will be sticking with this decision.

##Vote: Tackster


On March 28 2011 14:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 14:08 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Then what's the need to steal too, it doesn't really help save him. People are looking at it like Tack stole and then mafia bussed him too, when maybe mafia busing him was their first reaction, and he stole on top of that, which would be stupid and unnecessary.


You are looking at last night in a vacuum.

He stole what he thought was a gun.

That gun was still going to be a gun tomorrow night.

He could shoot someone with it tomorrow night.


On March 28 2011 15:19 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Also since this thread loves to jump on people for not posting a lot just letting you all know I've got an exam in 16 hours and I plan to spend every minute between now and then either sleeping or studying.

I might still post here and there though.

Happy scum-hunting.


On March 29 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
My last post was 21 pages ago, in much, much simpler times.

I've read the thread from then so far but not as thoroughly as I would have liked to so I'm gonna go back and try to piece things together. In the mean time, if anyone (specifically bumatlarge) has any questions for me to answer go ahead and post them and I'll try to help you out.


On March 29 2011 12:05 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 11:57 GGQ wrote:
On March 29 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
My last post was 21 pages ago, in much, much simpler times.

I've read the thread from then so far but not as thoroughly as I would have liked to so I'm gonna go back and try to piece things together. In the mean time, if anyone (specifically bumatlarge) has any questions for me to answer go ahead and post them and I'll try to help you out.


I have a question for you. Can you confirm that your item is a vest that protects you from night kills?
If so, someone in the thread earlier (jackal?) said that your vest would automatically protect you even if you were protecting it rather than using it. This seems wrong to me, so I'd like to hear it from you. Do you have to use the vest for it to protect you or does it do so automatically? And, finally, did your best block a bullet last night?

My vest will block a bullet no matter what action I take, unless it is stolen.

As long as I am wearing the vest, I can block 1 nightkill attempt.

The vest is destroyed in the process, so it is only good to block one bullet.

It did not block a bullet last night, if it had, it would have been destroyed, and LSB would have included that information in the day post just like he included the whereabouts of the potato.

Also I assume that I would have gotten a pm telling me I had been shot but I'm not entirely sure about that.


On March 29 2011 12:18 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I asked this a long time ago but LSB never responded, since he is active again now I'm gonna ask it here. It has almost nothing to do with the current proceedings though.

If the town wins the Item Game, do surviving Item Game players get to continue to PM each other?

I checked all your posts and didn't find an answer.


On March 29 2011 13:33 Lemonwalrus wrote:
What is with all the cutsie nicknames for everyone?

It just makes the thread harder to read.

(also my plan has always been to protect unless town needed me to steal, which I don't think has been the case yet.)



On March 29 2011 13:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I'm not offended by it or anything it is just kinda confusing lol


On March 29 2011 13:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 13:43 Coagulation wrote:
Dont be sorry. hes not even a real walrus.

SCUM!



Its all fluff. He's been lurking and watching everyone sheep Tack. In fact only has a single non-fluff post all game. And everyone is just smiling.


Also this line is the one I find interesting:

My vest will block a bullet no matter what action I take, unless it is stolen.


An item in the game that doesn't require you to 'use'
This makes no sense. I would put money on it that he's lying about something.
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