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On March 25 2011 16:05 annul wrote: i was of the opinion that what TL lacked were strong townies willing to argue their point if they thought they were right. apparently its a policy lynch now? are you fucking kidding? what else would anyone be talking about on night 0 if not the mayoral elections? im sorry if you are too lazy to read 50 pages but thats on you, dont blame me for playing the game. this is why i play this way on early days: go big or go home. but you know what i DID do? i got fuuuucktons of people on the record in a huge, huge way in some cases. even if i didnt win the argument, my long term play won the day. but things change and i adapted. my play is fluid. i find it hilarious how kav, et al pretty much admit i am a town but they still want to get rid of me. warning sign much? we do not have many chances to take out the TEN scum in the game, you know. I disagree with this post. TL lacks strong townies that argue their point and can convince people that their point is right. We already have tons of people who argue their points till the point is beaten and dead. BM (well, I guess not anymore), Jackal (when he tunnels), and youngminii, are just a few of the people who do that. Clearly you can see the difference between what you posted here and what Foolishness posted in XXXVII. There's a difference. A strong and good argument isn't one that you continue to bash over people's heads even thoguh they disagree. A strong and good argument is one that's can inherently be seen as good and agreed upon by at least a decent amount of people. While some (including me) agree with some of your points, the few points that I agree with are drowned out by all the other spam and garbage that you've posted (not to be mean). Yeah you got lots of talking down as can be seen by the page count. But what of that is really analyzable? Most of the people say the same thing over and over and over again, everyone is basically parroting each other's arguments. At the end of the day it came down to a fundamental disagreement that couldn't be resolved and should have been dropped till more information was known. This was similar to the situation with LSB v GMarshal in XXXVII over the PM system. After arguing for a decent amount, both decided that it came down to simply a difference in thought and so dropped the issue in favor of actually trying to catch scum and you got lynched. I don't know what "on the record in huge huge ways" you're talking about and would love to see you quote some statements that would give insight into a person's alignment that also doesn't have a similar post a page later saying the same thing from someone completely different. | ||
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On March 26 2011 00:08 Insanious wrote: @GMarshal, you also have to take into consideration perople from other time zones... Or people like me that only have 2 posts since I'm at work and can't be on TL all the time On March 25 2011 03:05 Insanious wrote: @GMarshal, you also have to take into consideration perople from other time zones... Or people like me that only have 2 posts since I'm at work and can't be on TL all the time ??? You posted the exact same thing twice on two different days??? | ||
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so you are willing to admit you agree with at least some of my arguments, but you are literally going to go ad hominem and try to use my METHODOLOGY for presenting the argument as a way to rationalize ignoring it? are you kidding? you literally just admitted to saying "he had points i liked, but lets kill him anyway." Please don't misrepresent me. I said I agree with some of your POINTS. not your arguments as a whole. 1) I agree that the item game people should be focused on 2) I agree that just because no one cc'ed, doesn't mean bum is 100% confirmed as townie 3) It is important to lynch black over red if we had to choose between the two However your arguments 1) Mayor should be in the item game rather than a semi-confirmed blue (bum) 2) Item game players are in danger of being killed and thus letting red/black win it 3) You should be mayor I disagree with. | ||
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On March 26 2011 03:58 Beneather wrote: It's really hard to catch up in this thread it just blows by so fast! ahhhhh! Can someone please tell me who are the candidates that are running for mayor? I didn't even know you were in this game.... | ||
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The OP was updated with this: Current Mafia KP is 2 Current Third Party KP is 1 Current Police Force KP is 0 Current Town KP is 1 The operative word being current. That means maybe the blues can get KP later? And somehow we have 1 KP? Does that mean the lynch? | ||
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Darm, why don't you speak up? There's going to be a lot of scrutiny of item player's. The only way a weak red/black who isn't confident in their play would act is by lurking. | ||
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On March 26 2011 06:38 Rean wrote: ....your defense is rather peculiar. If you're town, why would you not want to be dt'd? It'd save your ass for a while if you flip town, and electing the godfather into item-game seems foolish to me. Actually we don't even know how the item game is won...can any of the IG people tell us? Is it last man standing? Or stealing all the items? what is it? If your item is stolen can you steal from others? What are the rules for the item game? | ||
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On March 26 2011 07:04 tnkted wrote: Nah, theres no time limit on it, all the pieces have been laid already. I would advise item members to hold off on talking to each other for a few hours, though I doubt it will upset anything. So basically if you die by the end of night this is all useless? | ||
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The Players are 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus Thought we were focusing on the IG today? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On March 25 2011 06:19 darmousseh wrote: Darmousseh's Mayoral Campaign First off, I am unbanned. The person who banned me was the god of liquidpedia. Thus, I feel a certain connection to liquidpedia that no one else can claim. Specifically, I want revenge. I want to kill those mafia bastards so badly that they give up as quickly as possible. Secondly, I am in the item game, it is very important that a townie win the item game. Also, statistically speaking it's better to choose someone from the item game since there is a higher percentage of townies. Thirdly, I am a man with a plan. In 2 games I have come up with plans. Mini Mafia V I made a plan, I was backstabbed which caused the loss. In Death Factory Mafia I planned to hunt down mafia with my ability, but I got banned by the god of liquidpedia. It is time for the citizens of liquidpedia to rise up against their master and take destiny in their own hands. Obviously, since I got a late start, that it is highly unlikely I will get voted in, but if you want someone new, someone you know will make a plan and stick to it, vote for me. Vote For Revenge, Vote for Town, Vote Darmousseh You ask for people to vote for you and say you are a man with a plan. So what's your plan for this game I wonder? What would you want town to do in regards to the people in the IG? Who in it do you believe is town, mafia, and black? Have you been active in the PM right there? + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little. On March 25 2011 14:33 darmousseh wrote: I am here, I was busy. You guys are posting an insane amount. Understandable but can you give us a bit of insight into what you are doing in the item game to help town? + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2011 05:55 darmousseh wrote: I'm not super active mostly because of work, but I will respond to pms from people in the item game. I'ts important we identify greens so we can work together. I'm trying to decide who to vote for, but it looks like it doesn't matter since bum is leading. We can't lynch today, no one has really done or said anything interesting. On day 0-1, theres always too much speculation going around. The whole annul thing is probably blown out of proportion and i'm also talking to people in the item game since it's important to make sure that the baddies don't get their hands on those items. The item game people 1. Coagulation - is not as crazy as normal. 2. darmousseh -thats me! 3. Jackal58 - not really anything interesting yet 4. annul - obviously of interest, but probably is town 5. Tackster - no idea 6. Lemonwalrus - nothing interesting Finding the two baddies is very very important and we will need to focus lynch targets probably on that group, but at the same time if the mafia is smart, they will leave people there alive until the last moment in order to drag out the amount of time spent on deciding who to lynch. The 6 of us are obviously high night kill targets too so identifying the baddies is the most important thing right now. My gut says coag is probably not town and that one of the newer players is also not town. Can you please expand on this? Why a gut call on coag? You said you're talking to people, can you clarify? I just my request to you is while the thread itself is long, the interaction of the people in the IG probably isn't that bad. What are you reads based on the interactions you have had? The IG is basically a regular mini mafia game. I assume every townie in it, since they're in a pm circle together, are trying to figure out who the mafia/black are in their ranks. Can the rest of us not in the circle get some insight? While it's important that you don't die, it's more important that red/black in the game get lynched. If they get lynched then obviously chances of winning the game go to 100%. On the flip side If you stay alive it doesn't mean we'll win the items. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02. I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more. Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:45 Beneather wrote: I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us.. So you want us to use 3 days to lynching half the IG players? while using KP to kill the rest? | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6 Jackal, while I am not ok with "Let's not kill a new player cause he's new", I do want to ask if we can get a little more clarification if possible. Many of Tackster's posts in thread seem relatively pro-town. Says he's voting Bum and supporting him early, talks about how he'd rather the mayor make his own call instead of being swayed by town, takes a stance in whether annul is town or not. His stances were taken and there wasn't a lot of swaying. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:15 Lemonwalrus wrote: Insanious how about we just don't lynch anybody and all hold hands and sing kum-ba-ya? This is mafia, not pre-school. People are going to get lynched, and as part of this IG circle that we are speaking about, I will say that I too think tack is scum. I support jackal's ideas and intend to do my part to see the town win this item game, and right now I feel jackal's plan is our best bet. Woah woah, let's not get so aggressive and flamey please lol | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:22 Insanious wrote: I never said anything like this, we have 30 players... of those we have a couple new ones. Letting them live till tomorrow doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things, but it can help keep them here longer. Doesn't matter to me if they die day 2, or if anyone that this isn't their first game dies today... I want to kill BrownBear, I pushed for him to die, not very kum-ba-ya-ey. Ok so when tackster comes on we can ask him if he'll still play TL even if he's lynched day 1. Till he comes back, lets drop this issue of "let new players live" and deal with the real issue "Why do IG players think Tack is red?" | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:40 tnkted wrote: Lol... That applied to you too annul. FACEPALM Oh well. Jackal, there are a few more. see if you can find one. so are you saying annul passed your test and is "town"? | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:52 Insanious wrote: lol, I saw your post in 2 seconds coag, and knew exactly what you meant, don't worry... I guess the person leaving bread crumbs cannot recognize the same thing in others posts, lol. Well it's not like it'll work anymore -_- | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:01 annul wrote: tnkted, do you see coag's breadcrumb? its there and blatant, but i think it may be only IG players that got it he did already he said | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:00 LSB wrote: Actually, you can. But saying LSB sent you your alignment PM is a safe claim. Saying LSB sent you your role PM is a safe claim. both are safe claims? | ||
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