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Ah I see.
Well then, the only scenario that makes sense to ME right now is that Lemon is indeed red, tnked managed to screw up everyone with the awesome bus switch (since, you know, lemon was getting checked), and Tacked is caught in the middle.
The reason I'm saying this is that Day 2 is entitled confusion, and it's pretty clear that Coag didn't know why he shot annul.
I don't know, I've just been getting a good vibe from tack this whole game, and I don't think LSB would place a newbie in a 4-man-mafia team, and then place HIM in the item game. I know it's meta-game and shouldn't be considered, but come on, it makes much more sense for Lemon to be the scum.
Besides, we can solve this by killing both, someone get medics on Jackal/Coag and kill the other two. Easy peasy.
And yes, I'm considering that Jackal is town.
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Yeah, I guess, but it's also the posts that are making me lean towards Lemon more.
Anyway, the more I think about it the more pissed off I get. I know you wanted to use your role, but the fact that the blues (bum killing a scum on day 1) knew what they were doing should have been enough indication that you should steer clear of the item game.
We would have had a brilliant check by bum/bum's friend/whatever and we would know for sure who to lynch.
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@RoL: nah, blues won't let it go down like that. Unless they med-protect the wrong guy. 
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Y'all need to chill yo!
Coag: people are not calling you a liar straight-on, but you placed yourself in the spotlight, people will obviously argue everything you have to say.
So far though, very FEW are doubting the fact that you're town. They're just doubting the fact that you know what you're doing. If nothing else, the fact that you told two people what you're gonna do, and then shit happened and you ended up some place else, should keep you on your toes.
Honestly, i'm 50-50 about who to lynch, tack or lemon, but my GUT says lemon. Why? Because Lemon knew that Coag needed to be maimed, not Jackal. That's all I got going right now.
Think about it: as mafia, without a bus driver, how can you protect yourself from a hit even if you know it's coming? You can't, not in a regular game anyway. So the other version makes more sense to me (you can stop the killer in his tracks). But, again, that only works if you know the killer.
Anyway, I was thinking of a way to get rid of both tonight, but the only scenario that makes sense now is if we had a vig or something.
There are many things to consider, but it's pretty clear that someone else in the IG will get lynched, so there really shouldn't be so many FKING PAGES.
I'm gonna go sleep, please don't let me wake up in 8 hours to page 184. Thanks.
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Ok, I need someone to explain something to me, because I feel that I'm slow in this game. In more ways than one.
I get the whole "why tack is scum" argument, it makes sense, not so much with the "covering all bases argument", but with the "they thought coag had role-block" argument. Good, we're killing him.
Meanwhile, tnked can repent and switch Jackal with Bum again (or a random person, it doesn't matter), to make sure that the IG doesn't end if we miss-lynch. And yes, I said jackal. He's the only one I believe 100% to be town in that game.
HOWEVER, I'd like it if someone (preferably coag, since he's been dismissing this a lot) could explain to me why we are not even CONSIDERING the fact that Lemon could be the scum? He knew Coag had the gun so they could have used him against annul, just in case.
So I don't know, I see the reason why it's more likely that Tack is scum. I don't see why we are completely dismissing Lemon though.
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ok, fair enough, even though it does rely on a bit of wifom.
I'll go vote for tackster now.
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@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ.
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On March 29 2011 20:11 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote:
@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ. Unless the driver gets mindcontrolled?
We have blues as well, who can protect Coag!
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You're wrong, there were many people who questioned other things, like why Lemon is "cleared".
I myself have asked for extensive explanations on why we are only focusing on Tack, you need to go back and read the thread more carefully.
And no it wouldn't make sense to steal from Coag, as a KP is more important than a RB for mafia.
And as Coag was clearly the shooter, and jackal's item got stolen, that safely clears them both. As much as you can have someone cleared in a game of Mafia.
So it's between Lemon and Tackster, and it doesn't make sense for mafia to double-shoot Annul if they KNEW Coag had the real gun. It would make much more sense to use the "stun gun" to RB annul's potato.
Anything else makes a lot less sense than this theory.
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On March 30 2011 00:58 Tackster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 20:57 CubEdIn wrote:
You're wrong, there were many people who questioned other things, like why Lemon is "cleared".
I myself have asked for extensive explanations on why we are only focusing on Tack, you need to go back and read the thread more carefully.
And no it wouldn't make sense to steal from Coag, as a KP is more important than a RB for mafia.
And as Coag was clearly the shooter, and jackal's item got stolen, that safely clears them both. As much as you can have someone cleared in a game of Mafia.
So it's between Lemon and Tackster, and it doesn't make sense for mafia to double-shoot Annul if they KNEW Coag had the real gun. It would make much more sense to use the "stun gun" to RB annul's potato.
Anything else makes a lot less sense than this theory. Why does Jackal having his item stolen clear him in any way? Thats wrong imo.
Eh, I admit, I'm biased towards Jackal, it's not a very good reason, at the time I was thinking that if he were mafia he'd protect the item and wouldn't really go along with a plan that involves two other people. But he could have, had he been sneaky enough. But yeah, if you wanna place a vote on someone, do Lemon. He's the only one that has even a slight chance of being lynched instead of you imo.
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Well it makes little sense for Black to shoot annul because they would have to suffer if the items get to town. If it was a vig who was just wrong, then he should have come up and face it by now.
Thing is, a mafia with extra items spells trouble for blacks, but i don't know.
Here's the thing though, if we are wrong and we DO lynch the wrong scum, we can still prolong the IG with medics/bus drivers, so it should still be OK.
Dun dun dun.
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I'm honestly thinking of trying to convince everyone to move their lynch to Lemon.
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well, you convinced me, buddy.
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Oh so you decided to shut the fk up up till now, and when 2 guys change their votes you catch some breath and talk?
SCUM!
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Hahahaha epic trap. GEE GEE TACKSTER!
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What if I make you guys a deal? If I'm wrong, Tackster dies as well, but during the night.
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Coag, there's more to this than meets the eye. You may be trusting the wrong person.
Unless you're scum, in which case, Bravo.
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@Insanious: no, it just takes two hits to kill him >
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On March 30 2011 08:38 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:@Insanious: no, it just takes two hits to kill him > True, but town doesn't have two kp.
Kekekeke.
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OK, TIME FOR THE CUBE!!
*cue Eye of the Tiger*
EPIC PLAN OF EPICNESS
So, if you guys didn't figure it out yet, I'm blue. Yes, blue.
Bum can vouch for me if needed, but if you guys didn't see it by now then you suck @ mafia lol.
Don't worry though, the reds and blacks already knew this, because I slipped in another part of the game that's not open to the publique! (that's public in a language I just made up)
So, here's the deal boys and girls:
1. We lynch Lemon now.
2. If he flips green, we (the blues) get rid of Tackster during the night.
YES, WE CAN. (lol)
The only issue here is, which townie do we want in the game? We risk either way, but I'd rather Tackster lives, as he seems to be much more active.
Chances of this failing: yes, if Coag is mafia.
So ask yourselves, is it worth risking to kill Tackster, or is it work risking to kill Lemon. Which was more pro-town?
AS I SAID, THEY CAN BOTH DIE EITHER WAY.
SCUM is not taking the IG. Unless we have Coag as red. In which case they were taking the IG anyway.
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