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You know what, fuck it, I'll run for mayor too. Reasons why? One reason:
1) I have some sort of vision while others don't really:
On March 24 2011 12:05 chaoser wrote:Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game. Show nested quote +1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items.
Bum's plan also intrigues me and if a blue claims and runs I will immediately step down from running. This will be, of course, after I consider it some more to see if there are any glaring flaws in it.
I'm willing to compromise in terms of the voting/not voting for day 1 lynch. I'll go along with the town but also make my own analysis as well. If I believe town to be voting to lynch someone who is 80% not mafia in my eyes I will tell town and take a stand if I have to. Aside from that, I will be a mere civil servant, at the mercy of the people. I don't have flashy pictures or heart swelling music, but I do believe beer should be cold, boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad and freedom? Well, I think that's just a little bit better.
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On March 24 2011 12:35 Coagulation wrote:
its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game
Unless mafia doesn't realize there is no townie role and finds themselves all blown up by the next day.
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Another reason against not voting day 1 is that it doesn't leave a definite paper trail for town to analysis. With votes we can see where people fell but if it just comes down to you picking to lynch someone then the trail is a bit more iffy.
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Chaoser seems like a solid candidate. He has felt town to me all game, with solid contributions, but his plan for his lynch seems like it is precicely what a mafia would say; they're willing to go with the town (ie, let the other mafia members make a big fuss about who to kill), while also maintaining his ability to kill anyone he wants (if the mafia members can't convince people). If we elect chaoser, i'll be watching very closely to see who pushes for who to be lynched.
Yeah I realized compromising isn't a good idea at all which is why I wrote:
On March 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:
Another reason against not voting day 1 is that it doesn't leave a definite paper trail for town to analysis. With votes we can see where people fell but if it just comes down to you picking to lynch someone then the trail is a bit more iffy.
I will follow town's vote.
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On March 24 2011 13:02 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 13:01 chaoser wrote:Chaoser seems like a solid candidate. He has felt town to me all game, with solid contributions, but his plan for his lynch seems like it is precicely what a mafia would say; they're willing to go with the town (ie, let the other mafia members make a big fuss about who to kill), while also maintaining his ability to kill anyone he wants (if the mafia members can't convince people). If we elect chaoser, i'll be watching very closely to see who pushes for who to be lynched. Yeah I realized compromising isn't a good idea at all which is why I wrote: On March 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:
Another reason against not voting day 1 is that it doesn't leave a definite paper trail for town to analysis. With votes we can see where people fell but if it just comes down to you picking to lynch someone then the trail is a bit more iffy. I will follow town's vote. so.... we have precisely the same platform then? lol.
I guess, but Kav also is onboard with the letting town vote thing too so it's pretty much voting v. no voting. At this point I want to see how this bum/blue situation plays out. I'm going to think long and hard about if it has a big flaw in it or not.
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I'll vote for bum, if he gets counter claimed then I'll stay in the race.
On March 24 2011 22:58 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 22:07 deconduo wrote:
If he's blue: Vote for him
If he's not: There will be a cc
Whats not to get? We hope if he's black there will be a cc. 4 blues and a bunch of noobs in the game. I'm not holding my breath. Anyways here is a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red or a black: 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus I'm green. I suspect Coag is as well. So going on that we have a 50/50 shot at a red and a black between darm, annul, Tackster and LW. Tackster and Lemon I don't know. So I don't know what to expect out of their play. I haven't seen darm post yet. Is annul red again? Wouldn't put it past LSB to do so. Or maybe he changed it up and made him black. I would recommend confining our day 1 lynch to somebody on this list.
Thanks for basically copying and restating my idea...this + being against bum's run makes me FoS you.
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On March 24 2011 23:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 23:36 chaoser wrote:I'll vote for bum, if he gets counter claimed then I'll stay in the race. On March 24 2011 22:58 Jackal58 wrote:On March 24 2011 22:07 deconduo wrote:
If he's blue: Vote for him
If he's not: There will be a cc
Whats not to get? We hope if he's black there will be a cc. 4 blues and a bunch of noobs in the game. I'm not holding my breath. Anyways here is a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red or a black: 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus I'm green. I suspect Coag is as well. So going on that we have a 50/50 shot at a red and a black between darm, annul, Tackster and LW. Tackster and Lemon I don't know. So I don't know what to expect out of their play. I haven't seen darm post yet. Is annul red again? Wouldn't put it past LSB to do so. Or maybe he changed it up and made him black. I would recommend confining our day 1 lynch to somebody on this list. Thanks for basically copying and restating my idea...this + being against bum's run makes me FoS you. If you said it I missed it. The only one I saw was Meapak's.
Then I wouldn't want you as a mayor at all. It's been posted/quoted a good 4-5 times. For mayor to miss something like that doesn't bode well for the future.
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BTW guys, one really important thing to remember is that this IS insane mafia. Mafia might have some sort of recruiting power that can be stopped by protects or something which is why LSB said it's not in our best interest to claim most of the time. So let's be a bit more cautious with any plans for claiming in the future. While bum's claim was unavoidable after he slipped and I will vote for him, lets not follow in his example and claim all over.
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Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad?
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On March 25 2011 02:00 ilovejonn wrote:
No, just post in this thread.
Sorry, it was to that
Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad?
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On March 25 2011 02:26 ilovejonn wrote:
I just want one place I have to look at to go through with everything. Besides, people
type
like
this
in
irc,
then
I have to read
a very long
log.
We can just tell people not to
type
like
this
if they do...Just cause it's hard to read through doesn't mean it's not useful. It's an added feature, just cause you won't use it cause you don't want to deal with massive logs doesn't mean others won't.
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Ok so Chaoser withdrew but that's fine because the Bum campaign has cleared up a lot of the concerns I had namely how it's impossible to win the claim trade. Bum is probably our best bet for all the reasons people have already stated so I wont parrot them off.
I'm actually still in it, at least until bum's situation is cleared via time and no one cc'ing.
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On March 25 2011 03:03 GMarshal wrote:
Well, allow me to say that I don't think IRC is a good idea its far too easy to impersonate someone else, with posts we can be 100% sure that the person saying something is the actual person whose name appears on the post. Also bum has my full support barring a counterclaim, I urge all other candidates to withdraw.
Also I think we have a few people who aren't posting, I bet these are the people who are oh so busy chatting with their scum buddies about how to deal with the current situation, I propose a lurker be the person our mayor lynches (assuming we don't find a jucier target)!
Hmm, that's very true about impersonating someone...
And in line with the lurker lynch idea
1. Coagulation Posting
2. darmousseh Banned
3. Jackal58 Posting
4. annul Posting
5. Tackster NOT POSTING
6. Lemonwalrus NOT POSTING
People in the item game have a vested reason to post in thread cause it helps them gain info as well as allows themselves to come under scrutiny from town itself. Those that aren't contributing are playing decidedly anti town since we can't read you, nor can your fellow item players read you.
It's close to 24 hours already and Tackster and Lemonwalrus have not posted that much as all. Please contribute more~
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gah ninja-ed by lemon lol
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On March 25 2011 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 03:17 deconduo wrote:Tackster is reading up on the thread now. It takes a while to go through 29 pages if its your first game  Oh hey there. You know this because???
I believe he said they were roommates before the game started
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The man just got killed by letting his role slip in a PM circle in XXXVII. Night 1 boom he's gone.
And he does it again a week later???
Sorry. I'm not buying what he's selling.
I might be wrong but on night 0 I'm going to lean towards the side that my gut reaction had. That reaction was bullshit. If that makes me scummy in your eyes I'm sure you'll get over it.
I don't know if you have a bad memory or something but bum wasn't even in the game (XXXVII) till late. He replaced ICanFlyLow like on Day 2 or Day 3. He also flipped green. I don't think anyone on my team was in a PM circle with him in that game so he didn't let his role PM slip. Go check on that game if you want but he's clearly marked dead Night 3.
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On March 25 2011 04:52 orgolove wrote:
Sorry. I've been busy with trip preparations - I have to drive ~1000 miles back and forth this weekend, and need to do a checkup on my car etc etc. Anyway - How can we trust bum when he roleclaimed so early in the game? He's a great player - I don't think any decent actual blue would take the risk of revealing his role so early. He might actually be a black, trying to draw hits and confusing us with fake checks.
I'm thinking of what happened with annul in.. I think it was salem mafia or something - where he did an early roleclaim as a godfather, and everyone believed him after a cop confirm. That was absolutely disastrous for us.
There really is no logic for us to believe bum.
There is logic because the difference is while in salam (the game you reference) annul claimed early and then cop confirmed him, that was 1 person confirming him. Here all the blues are in a PM circle so they can immediately say no, he's not one of us and that leads to a 1:1. Black isn't going to help red and red isn't going to help black and I doubt either one of the groups wants to get into a 1:1 situation this early in the game.
annul, you're thinking of it as 10 v 20 when really it's 6 v 4 v 20. Either side is going to be thinking of it's own interests and so red and black really have no desire to overstep their roles and try to take one for the team and fake claim and let it benefit the other team (red/black).
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didn't even mention my candidacy lol...
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Chaoser mentioned he would sheep town on the mayoral vote - I personally cannot support a mayor that would leave anything up to chance, even an election.
Woah woah, I didn't say I'd sheep town. I said I'd allow for a town vote which most people said instead of being a cowboy and just picking my own. The reason is to be as transparent as possible.
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My opinion of the situation is this:
I will vote bum. If someone cc's him, I will keep running and not vote him.
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