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On March 26 2011 05:05 annul wrote: see and the funny thing is bum is the only one who is saying i am not the lynch target today
Sorry, I must have overlooked that bit. My bad.
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On March 26 2011 05:22 Coagulation wrote: yeah it was debunked as bullshit pretty fast also worth mentioning to you guys Lemonwalrus has been very active with me in PM and have100% green read on him
Why are you PMing with him again? Did I miss something?
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Sorry guys, I'm an idiot and forgot about the fact that itemgame pms together.
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As someone wanted a record of votes in here... ##Vote: Bumatlarge
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On March 26 2011 06:53 GMarshal wrote: Also so people dont forget Amber[Light] and kev have yet to post (and I *will* be making frequent reminders until such a time as they post)
I wonder if the mods would prod them.
On March 26 2011 06:19 bumatlarge wrote: Kav put up iGrok and deconduo as potential scum, and I'd like to hear more on those.
iGrok's currently playing to his town meta from irc but I don't know how that meta would transfer over into forum mafia. I'm fairly certain he's actually town at this point.
On March 26 2011 07:29 Amber[LighT] wrote: Yah I know I haven't been active so far I was waiting for the Day post to come up before I began posting. I didn't really want to commit to a plan or begin constructing a plan until the game "officially" began.
I'm fairly certain night zero is an official start, given we're actually allowed to talk in the thread at night. Given that, I don't think that reason is acceptable.
My computer is making funny noises. I'll post more in a little.
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I'll be posting my analysis on Jackal in a little bit. MS is much easier to use to get an iso on someone.
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I'm sorry that I'm going in a reverse chronological order but it's easier for me this way.
On March 26 2011 05:36 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 05:35 annul wrote: you do realize town doesnt get to pick the lynch today right Yep. Originally a post I glazed over, I now understand why I glazed over it. It was one word.
On March 26 2011 05:32 Jackal58 wrote:
There are 6 of us in the item game. One of us is going to die today. So annul is definitely a target. If town pushes a lynch for somebody not in the item game town is as insane as the name of the game. Why is it insane for us not to? I'm just wondering your logic behind that, Jackal. The posts immediately before that were really... not much of anything. A picture of a smurf doesn't really help anyone in the game mafia, nor does the question "So since he's not you he's scum?" That question also confused me a fair amount.
However, here he gives a valid point here:
On March 25 2011 19:47 Jackal58 wrote: Say this again bum. I see players making the same mistake that was made in XXXV. Players assuming that there will be a vig or a medic or other typical blue roles. We don't know that. We must play with the assumption there are none.
This leads me to believe he's more town than he is scum. The post before this one doesn't appear helpful (just talking about Eiii's campaign and saying he's half baked) and the post before that was just stating something super-obvious in response to me. At least, I think that's fairly standard knowledge:
On March 25 2011 11:44 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 11:39 Lanaia wrote:On March 25 2011 11:38 OriginalName wrote:On March 25 2011 11:37 chaoser wrote:chaoser if you had a DT check who would you check right now? Probably darmousseh or Lemonwalrus. Both in the item game, both kinda on the quiet side. Darms TL banned for another 22 minutes. I thought someone said he was unbanned. He was talking earlier. He is. He's lurking. Anti town do that.
Lurking isn't always a scumtell though in forum mafia, is it?
On March 25 2011 11:27 Jackal58 wrote: I am most likely going to vote for bum for mayor. If no cc's come out now then I'll have to assume he is blue. I hate assumptions. Particularly assumptions that my entire being is saying "no" to. I'm going to go to bed shortly. I'll vote tomorrow. I don't disagree with what he said there. Town should avoid assumptions as far as it makes sense. However that could be scum-motivated as well.
On March 25 2011 09:20 Jackal58 wrote: Black 1st of course. Red the next day. The odds of that particular scenario occurring though is unlikely.
This does not strike me as something scum would say. I think it's safe to say that Jackal is town at this point.
Previous to these posts, I don't see anything that is able to be analyzed. It is either a single line post or a post that is irrelevant to our game. If I think of more, then I will acknowledge it at a later point in time. Last night I was thinking he was scum because of all his short little posts. Today, my view on that has changed.
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On March 26 2011 07:46 Insanious wrote:The other thing I want to say is... lynch BrownBear, he is mafia  . I'm calling it now. Want to just get this here from posterity sake, then we can move on till I can "I told you so" the town.
I didn't realize he was fully in the game.
On another note, I'm off and when I come back I'll post my opinions on everyone this far.
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On March 26 2011 10:17 Insanious wrote: Metagaming is very important in a mafia game... people will play very similarly game to game depending on their roles. The ones that always play the same, are scary simply because you cannot determine if they are green, blue, or red.
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It is BAD scum hunting to ignore how a player usually plays. Yes, extraneous circumstances do happen... but you also have to look at what else might be happening.
This is very good and very correct. I quite enjoyed that particular post.
On March 26 2011 10:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: BB could simply be in the middle of stuff right now... This reasoning is pretty speculative I guess but so is your reason for wanting him dead. I'm all for pressuring lurkers but saying someone is scum based solely on activity is lacking evidence methinks. For the most part, it isn't lacking evidence. BB could have at least said "Oh, I'll be busy for a bit, guys." like other people have (iGrok and a few others).
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On March 26 2011 10:55 GGQ wrote: Voting bumatlarge for mayor.
Suggesting darmousseh as primary lynch target for now.
Any reasons?
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On March 26 2011 11:08 Eiii wrote: as well as brownbean, we need to keep a pretty close eye on beneather and kevconsim... both are 100% sheeping/lurking and have actually contributed nothing this game while just hopping on the bum bandwagon.
Has kevconsim actually said ANYTHING?
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote: Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1 #1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum. #2 I want medic protection over night. #3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch. #4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched. #5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win. #6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow. #7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3 #8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle #9 That's 8 vs the world #10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us. #11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot. #12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2. #13 Town wins. #14 Scum sucks. #15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing. #16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!
It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it?
Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum?
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On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him...
I don't like this post. That is a terrible idea. Actually, that post kind of pains me because I can't see any town motivation for that. In nowhere I've been have we ever gone out of our way not to kill newbies, even in our newbie games/thread.
On March 26 2011 11:45 Beneather wrote: I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us..
I also don't like this post. The latter really won't help us. 2/10 scum are in the item game. I'd prefer not to end up lynching the first four and having them all be town, thanks. Scum can still kill so... I fail to see how this would help at all.
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On March 26 2011 12:14 tnkted wrote: If Jackal can come up with one example in my posts, then we can confirm him as town and will know that his plan is legit.
What if his PM was worded differently from yours because he is in item game and you are not?
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@bum personally, all I'd like to see from you is who you are suspicious of, if anything.
I really see no need for anything more than that.
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On March 26 2011 13:36 bumatlarge wrote: Yeah comparing PMs seems like a dishonest way to trick mafia. Thats not really how I want to win. If LSB is allowing breadcrumbs to how your PMs are worded or words in them, then I think he knows this is going to fuck up your plan.
In fact, I'm sure of it. If determining mafia was as easy as that I would not be playing the game.
It really is a silly way to try to find people.
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Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell.
On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: FINALLY made it to my new condo. I love it, its amazing. I'll have to read and catch up, can anyone briefly summarize the lasy 10-15 pages for me?
And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think
I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed.
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On March 26 2011 15:25 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote:Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: FINALLY made it to my new condo. I love it, its amazing. I'll have to read and catch up, can anyone briefly summarize the lasy 10-15 pages for me?
And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed. What lol, that statement is confusing. What do you mean?
This:
On March 26 2011 15:08 iGrok wrote: Oh yeah. Maybe I should wait until after the celebratory hangover to read through :S.
Wait, so item game players are allowed to pm?
He said this after he was told by GM that other people can't PM.
On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: FINALLY made it to my new condo. I love it, its amazing. I'll have to read and catch up, can anyone briefly summarize the lasy 10-15 pages for me?
And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think
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On March 26 2011 15:29 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote:Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: FINALLY made it to my new condo. I love it, its amazing. I'll have to read and catch up, can anyone briefly summarize the lasy 10-15 pages for me?
And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed. maybe hes a blue
Who, iGrok? He told someone in itemgame to PM bumatlarge unless I am mistaken.
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kevconsim, even with school, you should still be able to post actual content. I haven't seen anything from you that I would consider in the slightest to be content. I know for a fact there are other people in the game who are also in school.
On March 26 2011 15:56 kevconsim wrote: @Tackster i will post my opinions but there isn't enough information for me to truly make a educated guess at who is what. What i meant was my post count will increase greatly as the game goes further but as of now i don't have much to say.
Where/when will you be posting your opinions? We'd love to hear them. Right now, what we need isn't necessarily an educated guess, it's more talk and more ideas flowing. What are your thoughts?
How do you feel about the game being at 70 pages? Your past four posts have been entirely pointless and the same question was asked twice within 15 minutes. They don't contribute anything.
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