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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 09:38 GMT
#4816
Orgolove, Amber mafia
Wiggles, kav black.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 11:56 GMT
#4818
On April 06 2011 20:33 CubEdIn wrote:
@ deconduo: yes, wouldn't you like to know that!


I was saying thats what I would need to know 100% beforehand if my roleclaim was fake, which I couldn't.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 15:48 GMT
#4826
I would assume they RBd ILJ yeah. Nothing else makes sense.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 16:22 GMT
#4828
What other items did the blacks get apart from the 3 RPGs?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:05 GMT
#4849
On April 07 2011 02:42 Kavdragon wrote:
I'm confused about something, Decon:
Show nested quote +
Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie


Where does it say that you kill the person who kills you?


+ Show Spoiler +

Original Message From LSB:
Yes

Show nested quote +
Original Message From deconduo:
Oh damn, thats not half as cool as I thought it was

Does the hit go through bulletproof vests? Its not a bullet ^_^

Original Message From LSB:
Black players will be informed

Zombie is similar to Amber's role in Insane 1. If you get killed you will crawl out of your grave and hit the person that killed you.

Original Message From deconduo:
Do black players get informed if they are hit?

What does coming back aas a zombie do?




On April 07 2011 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
But you shouldn't worry much about it, it's most likely a fake claim.


*sigh*
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:09 GMT
#4850
Lanaia
ILJ
Cubed
Eiii
Deconduo
Mr.Wiggles
Kavdragon
Amber

Cubed, Lanaia, Amber will die during the night, leaving:


ILJ
Eiii
Deconduo
Mr.Wiggles
Kavdragon

Leaving 3 town, 2 blacks. If you are throwing suspicion on me now, its over.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:51 GMT
#4858
On April 07 2011 05:44 CubEdIn wrote:
Honestly, I'll vote in favor of decon lying. But I'm not 100% sure yet. Here's why:

1. Role PMs: Kav's looks more authentic. Decon's looks very wishy-washy, but just might be true.
Wiggles's is the worst. That's gotta be one super weak power, plus that it has huge holes in it.
Like:
- i get the role of who i check = who does that?!
- even so, his role-checks come back red, he flips black
- the role itself would be super weak, and he can't prove anything from what he posted.

2. Defenses: you'll have to admit they're all weak, but deconduo's seems reasonably fair - he claimed early, nobody counter-claimed. He couldn't have had known there were no other vets BUT, he could have simply claimed that there are more than one if cc-ed, so no biggie there. Plus, he claimed he kills whoever visits him, and that's not in the PM.
Kav's is quite strong. What managed to push me off his case was the fact he said "LSB, I told you this role was broken". That just sounded very pro-town to me. Plus, the fact that he was one of the first to reply to my "post words 5/10/15/20" of your PM tells me that if this was a plan, it's a fking brilliant one.

So yeah, if I had to pick between the two, I'd pick deconduo to be the scum. But there's still time, no worries.


My PM: You are THE veteran. Not a veteran, THE veteran.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:53 GMT
#4860
On April 07 2011 05:49 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 05:37 ilovejonn wrote:
oh btw, it wasn't me who got roleblocked. I did not receive any PM's about me getting roleblocked. Besides, why would they RB me and keep me alive.


This is uncool.
I just realized that we're missing a KP.

1. I got shot (there's mentioning of an explosion in the distance, so that must've been it) - assume RPG
2. Coagulation - RPG
3. Jackal - RPG
4. Tnked - normal hit
5. Kevinconsim - Coag's hit.

So we're missing a normal hit. Either the reds hit someone the blacks also did, or the blacks saved an RPG? I don't know. But I don't like it.


"Someone was about to go outside to kill someone but he was wrapped in duct tape"

So one of the black hits was RBd, Tnkted must have been the mafia kill.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:53 GMT
#4861
@Mafia

Who did you roleblock, they are confirmed black.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 20:57 GMT
#4863
On April 07 2011 05:55 CubEdIn wrote:
Oh, well it doesn't matter then.

I was just worried that there would be 3 night hits instead of 2.

If there's still two, we got this.

Deconduo, don't worry, if you're not black, you're not gonna die.


Not tonight, mafia/blacks would be mad to kill me. I'm worried about townies lynching me at lylo.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 21:06 GMT
#4868
On April 07 2011 06:04 Kavdragon wrote:
In case anyone is interested, this game has had unparalleled "activity". The only game larger than this was Mafia II, which was 349 pages. But it had 132 people, and it took 4.5 months.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty OK with this game being second in size. That's a freaking LONG game.


First 80 pages was me trying to get people to not lynch Tack
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#4871
On April 07 2011 05:44 CubEdIn wrote:
Honestly, I'll vote in favor of decon lying. But I'm not 100% sure yet. Here's why:

1. Role PMs: Kav's looks more authentic. Decon's looks very wishy-washy, but just might be true.
Wiggles's is the worst. That's gotta be one super weak power, plus that it has huge holes in it.
Like:
- i get the role of who i check = who does that?!
- even so, his role-checks come back red, he flips black
- the role itself would be super weak, and he can't prove anything from what he posted.


Look at these role PMs:

You are the Bodyguard. You have the thankless job of being a meatshield for the king. However, the king promises to reward you if you manage to kill the assassin. I wonder what he will teach you...


You are the Police Tough Guy. Once per night you can request the alignment of one person


Hi you are the Village Idiot! You hate REDACTED, you hate him very much. In order to win you have to lynch REDACTED. Remember, lynch, not kill.


You are the Ninja Apparant! You can activate it so that on one night all KP directed twoards the ninja will instead go back to the person who issued the KP


How is mine more wishy washy than them?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 21:56 GMT
#4875
On April 07 2011 06:31 CubEdIn wrote:
Not more wishy washy than theirs, but more wishy washy than the other two guys.

Look, there is very, very little 100% fool-proof information in this game. So, assuming all three of you are lying (Kav/Wiggles/Decon), then we can say for sure that Kav is the best liar of the three. His story holds water, especially since he had the PM pre-checked 3 days before claiming it.

Again, I didn't say you're 100% black. If I had to choose right NOW I would choose Kav as town over you two. But there are 2 more nights and one more day before we get to that point (unless unexpected stuff happens, which is very likely). So it doesn't matter much.


I already explained why Kav would have come up with a fake PM on day 2. Also he's the best player in the game so of course he came up with a good PM.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#4894
On April 07 2011 08:27 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 06:56 deconduo wrote:
On April 07 2011 06:31 CubEdIn wrote:
Not more wishy washy than theirs, but more wishy washy than the other two guys.

Look, there is very, very little 100% fool-proof information in this game. So, assuming all three of you are lying (Kav/Wiggles/Decon), then we can say for sure that Kav is the best liar of the three. His story holds water, especially since he had the PM pre-checked 3 days before claiming it.

Again, I didn't say you're 100% black. If I had to choose right NOW I would choose Kav as town over you two. But there are 2 more nights and one more day before we get to that point (unless unexpected stuff happens, which is very likely). So it doesn't matter much.


I already explained why Kav would have come up with a fake PM on day 2. Also he's the best player in the game so of course he came up with a good PM.


As flattering as you are, I'm not that good.

There are a lot of things that make your claim so hard to believe. Take your claim for instance: You claimed vet day 2. The purpose of vets is to draw hits to themselves, and claiming vet more or less defeats the purpose of the entire role! Anyone who was actually a vet would have spent the time to look over my posts to check and see if I actually claimed vet. You've played long enough to understand this, and yet you made a mistake, cause I didn't claim vet. It just doesn't make sense. I wasn't being really spammy, so it wouldn't have taken very long to look through my posts to see where I claimed vet, yet you didn't. It just doesn't make sense from a vet's perspective.

However, if you look at it from a black's perspective, it makes a ton of sense: You pretend to be a vet that made a mistake, and in an accident, you tell people that you're a vet. This would make anyone with KP shy away from hitting you. It wasn't a bad plan for a black, I mean, you haven't been hit yet, have you? And even if you were/are hit, you've got your explanation all set up for you.


I claimed to get you lynched, not to draw hits. It wasn't a mistake. If I was hit I would be dead. Read my claim.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 06 2011 23:52 GMT
#4896
On April 07 2011 08:51 Amber[LighT] wrote:
As an FYI Kav should have been RBed last night.


GG
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 07 2011 10:35 GMT
#4926
On April 07 2011 11:25 CubEdIn wrote:
Also, the fact that Amber said he should've been RBed makes me think they're fking with us. Mostly because he said he should've been role blocked when I was. Do not fall for this. Think for yourselves.


Amber is not fucking with us, he has given town the win. He meant kav was RB'd night two, you know, the night when kav claimed he was RBd....

But hey, lets throw away all that. Lets throw away my play the entire game. Lets throw away the fact that the timing of my roleclaim makes perfect sense for a green and no sense for a black. Lets throw away the fact that kav hasn't fossed any blacks all game. Oh wait, except when he needed to save his own ass from a lynch. All because kav is good at faking a single role PM.

Notice the way that Wiggle's fake claim is so similar to Kavs. I wouldn't be surprised if it was kav that came up with both of them.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 07 2011 10:43 GMT
#4927
For example:

-Decon proves kav is lying about being vet. Kav can't claim medic saved because that is easily verifiable. Hence kav must claim bulletproof. Kav composes fake role PM, and uses Cubed's plan thingy to breadcrumb it. He can then sit back happy until he is at risk of being lynched, and expose it.

OR

-Kav puts the words from his real role PM in Cubed's claim. The are simple words, you, your etc. Three days later he composes a fake role PM around the,
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 07 2011 10:49 GMT
#4928
On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Your the you that.
used your redacted.

5,10,15,20,
25,30,35 respectively.


Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it.



+ Show Spoiler +
  1. You
  2. are
  3. the
  4. Bulletproof-Bob.
  5. Your
  6. rough
  7. riding
  8. experiences
  9. during
  10. the
  11. war
  12. have
  13. sadly
  14. left
  15. you
  16. so
  17. terrified
  18. and
  19. suspicious
  20. that
  21. you
  22. have
  23. borrowed
  24. a
  25. used
  26. bulletproof
  27. jacket
  28. from
  29. your
  30. Vietnam
  31. buddy.
  32. Unfortunately,
  33. he
  34. was
  35. were
  36. shot
  37. with
  38. a
  39. cannon
  40. in
  41. the
  42. war


He fucked up, GG.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 07 2011 11:37 GMT
#4931
On April 07 2011 20:26 CubEdIn wrote:
Seriously dec? That's one word off, when I actually only asked for the first 4, he got the last two one off and you're saying that because of that he's scum? It can easily be a counting error. It's pretty clear that the PM is either real or has been invented preemptively. That error can work in either of the two cases.

Look, I'm not 100% sure about either of you, but right now _it doesn't matter_. We have one shot at winning this, and if her kp doesn't go through then we're screwed anyway, so let's not get too "off the plan" because we don't know what can happen.

We can argue about you two after the town hangs wiggles. If it gets to that point.
Also, you don't seem to be addressing the fact that your PM said nothing about killing the one that tries to hit you. That's a bigger hole than anything in Kav's case (including his vest LOLOLOLOL!)


Why did he redact was?

Look at the typo as well:

Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 07 2011 11:38 GMT
#4932
On April 07 2011 20:26 CubEdIn wrote:
Seriously dec? That's one word off, when I actually only asked for the first 4, he got the last two one off and you're saying that because of that he's scum? It can easily be a counting error. It's pretty clear that the PM is either real or has been invented preemptively. That error can work in either of the two cases.

Look, I'm not 100% sure about either of you, but right now _it doesn't matter_. We have one shot at winning this, and if her kp doesn't go through then we're screwed anyway, so let's not get too "off the plan" because we don't know what can happen.

We can argue about you two after the town hangs wiggles. If it gets to that point.
Also, you don't seem to be addressing the fact that your PM said nothing about killing the one that tries to hit you. That's a bigger hole than anything in Kav's case (including his vest LOLOLOLOL!)


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