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On April 03 2011 11:36 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +There are three per alignment. They are the Mafia Drug Runner, Mafia Treasurer, Mafia Godfather, Black only gave us two names.
On April 03 2011 11:32 CubEdIn wrote: Oh wait maybe they didn't lie, since they had 3 names (lemon was not one of them) and they only shared two.
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Oh, and this just in, since I was RBed and Bum did not use their RPGs, blacks now have 3 RPGs.
That translates into +3KP.
So expect slaughter tomorrow.
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I'm grinding my teeth, I told him to make sure he sends them in.
F.F.S.
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Oh and with the extra money they can buy votes as well.
Better be very one-sided about lynches guys!
I'm gonna go sleep.
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On April 03 2011 11:43 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 11:42 CubEdIn wrote: Oh and with the extra money they can buy votes as well.
Better be very one-sided about lynches guys!
I'm gonna go sleep. Only bum can buy votes check his role PM.
I'm pretty sure the other factions can buy votes as well.
And we didn't save tackster because we only had money for like 2-3 votes, since we had bought RPGs, and we were not 100% sure about him being innocent anyway. We thought the money would come in handy later on, when we ARE sure. This was back when we had a team.
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Well, they can control one.
They are three people, and mafia can still RB+shoot one of them to get a kill.
So all town has to do is lynch two of them. In theory.
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On April 03 2011 11:46 orgolove wrote: Whatever. We got the godfather, and now we just have to worry about their "3" RPGs. What are the benefits of winning the item game? Anybody know? Since bum knew, there had to be some blues that were in there other than bum. Do you know who are the blacks, have any analysis to help us?
Read the Black Market thread. That's all we know.
I can say that mafia thought Kav/GGQ/Lanaia were blacks.
It seems that they were wrong about GGQ, and possibly about Lanaia as well.
So... yeah. Do your own police-work!
Bum was supposed to hit kav or ggq, but didn't get to. We might have been wrong, but at least blacks would have had -2 kps.
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Mafia advised us to kill Kav (he was top priority).
Why would they do that? He might be black though.
@Kav: I'm not DT, I can role-check (getting the role PM). I got RBed, you can tell from the day post. I checked & confirmed Jackal on day 1 and Eiii on day 2.
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On April 03 2011 11:58 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 11:57 Kavdragon wrote: Right, so obviously it's at your discretion as to what you say, but in regards to night actions:
Who was roleblocked? CubEdIn, you're a DT, right? Who did you check? Jackal, did you already post your check? There were two DT like items in the IG, Coag, did you check anyone? no i shot the GF i can only use 1 at a time. i will probably shoot you next. 
He's most likely not red, and blacks are Bullet-Proof. Unless you can get a RB before-hand, don't bother.
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I did but they asked us to shoot him during the night. They couldn't be sure who would do it. If bum didn't forget he'd probably have shot him.
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Either way, why argue. Just lynch him and see who's right? :D
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but.. those are the ones that black claimed to be red.
Are you seriously saying that both factions lied about eachother? Or did you not read black market thread?
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Well here's the scenario:
Both teams knew we had RPGs. They did not know who would use them (coinflip on who to RB)
Reds go: Dudes, use them on: Kav/GGQ/Lanaia prz. Blacks go: No no, we got the scum names, it's Orgolove and Amber.
And you're saying they're actually going "Shoot us!" "No!! SHOOT US!!"? It doesn't make much sense man.
Why would black lie about who is red? It's in their interest for town&mafia to fight each other! I get the argument when it comes to reds, because they were guessing, but the blacks... why would they lie?
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What you're saying makes sense if it's in the thread. They were anonymous. We had the KPs and they couldn't stop it. It's like effectively shooting yourself in the foot and laughing.
1. They tell us to kill Kav 2. Blacks get angry 3. We would have probably shot @ Kav 4. Kav dies & flips red 5. ??? 6. Profit
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And blacks, they can be lying just to fuck with town, but it would be in their best interest for town to get rid of scum, so they can use their KPs on town (see the kill on Bum). It makes a lot of sense.
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regarding the RPGs:
They represent a KP by themselves. They are also a KP modifier, so if they are used together with another KP they go through bulletproof or any kind of protection.
So by themselves they are 1 kp. If used together they go through bulletproof (using 2 rpgs I mean). Or it can be used with a regular kp + rpg to go through bulletproof.
But that's pretty irrelevant since the blues have them, so they'll probably use them 1-for-each.
I am totally for killing the mad hatters, but I suggest you really think the targets through.
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don't think it's insaneous. but i'll look through it tomorrow.
however, who did Kenpachi have his bombs on? Those would be confirmed blacks since none of them died.
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Plan Numero Tres
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1. Lynch Kavdragon. 2. ??? 3. Profit.
Here's why: 1. We're 9v7 right now (counting all scums). 2. We have people with KPs (1 or more). 3. We have medic(s). 4. We know that orgolove and amber are scum. 5. We have people who can read roles (less impressive). 6. We have Bus Driver(s).
As far as I know, scum has only 1rb + puppeteer. There's no way they can stop everything during the night. We have mafia, who is in deep sh*t. They need to take out blacks as well. If they do not, they won't be able to win, that's pretty clear.
So let's not fuck shit up with madhatters. If they want to stop that, they need to use 1rb + 1kp to kill one town. It's silly. Not worth it. Let them use it. Besides, we're not even sure that it's gonna work anyway (they may save the targets somewhat). Let's get rid of the one confirmed black. Let's hope that some town heroes will be able to take out 1-2 scum tonight, and we'll probably lose a fuckton of people, but we'll have way better odds (say 4 of us die, it will be 5v2v3). IF mafia is decent, they might be able to take out a black as well (though, they seem to be sucking at it so far).
What you're doing right now is taking out scum. Which will make it EASY for black to win (4kps against town lolwut?). So let's be 100% we kill ONE black. Then if both mafia and blacks go for town, it will be mafia's doom.
WE ARE NOT WINNING THIS BY HITTING MAFIA. EVEN IF WE WIPE THEM OUT TONIGHT.
Be brave town, ##vote Kavdragon!
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