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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#881
yeah totally, and attacking the people who said it's a good idea yet can't actually vote.

keep going chaoser, you're on the right path!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 22 2011 22:02 GMT
#882
On March 23 2011 06:53 Insanious wrote:
I love how chaoser's defense is "If you try to kill me, I will do terribly un-town like things and ruin your guy's plans!"


I didn't say that at all, I said I can do things to
1) prove my "power" when people asked me to talk more about it
2) my power makes it hard for people to push/pull me off the edge

I actually have a use for my power when I need to use it that is semi pro-town as far as I can see.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#883
On March 23 2011 06:21 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 06:16 chaoser wrote:
On March 23 2011 06:13 CubEdIn wrote:
My guess is that his theory doesn't hold much water, but even so, it's enough to convince me. I would do it if I still had my PoPs.

Eii is the hulk, we can use him as well if we have issues pulling chaoser off.

Or, if he's claiming he's hard to pull off, let's just proceed in pushing him, it's not like we have many other targets left. And we have enough to kill him and Annul if people want annul dead as well.


What's enough to convince you? him just saying I'm mafia. Please, do explain


Remember Maifa 37? Foolishness and Ver did all the work. We both know that because we were looking from behind the scenes. RoL is well known as a good player, so I'm gonna just do what he says. Really. That's my reasoning.

Plus, he claims to post an analysis as well, so... there's that as well.
It's not like it matters, I can't either push nor pull, as I already used my PoPs.

I will admit that I am not as good as them. But if you disagree with what I said please feel free to express any criticism's. I am not perfect. The most important part to analyzing is just being able to think critically. Read what I wrote, read all of Chaoser's posts and decide if you agree with me. I come out hard because I am as sure as I can be that Chaoser is red without having a flip.

Gmarshal if he flips green, then we can talk about it then. I am not going to bother in the .1% chance that happens. In that group of 7 players most likely 3-4 are scum. Meaning I am working off of an educated coin flip assuming darmousseh is not lying.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#884
To prove my ability works as stated:

##Push CubEdIn

We still have plenty of pushes if we want to kill annul, and I'm not going to pull chaoser just because RoL says so. He hasn't been the greenest player in my book, but I don't think there's enough to justify a lynch at this point. idk, we should all look over RoL and chaoser thoroughly at this point.
:3
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#885
On March 23 2011 07:27 Eiii wrote:
To prove my ability works as stated:

##Push CubEdIn

We still have plenty of pushes if we want to kill annul, and I'm not going to pull chaoser just because RoL says so. He hasn't been the greenest player in my book, but I don't think there's enough to justify a lynch at this point. idk, we should all look over RoL and chaoser thoroughly at this point.

I posted my reasoning a page back. Read him over and make a decision now. I will answer any questions I am given. I consider Chaoser to be the best target we have right now. I don't consider Annul to be red, but if you want to kill him out of policy I will be fine with that. I think it is a waste though. Everything Annul did makes him scream town to me right now, on top of which a DT role is hardly a mafia beneficial role.

I would like to kill Chaoser, and if you guys want, Gmarshal. If you really want we can kill Annul, but as I said I think it is pointless.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 22 2011 23:02 GMT
#886
Just making sure, will we be able to pull past keifru properly?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 23:03 GMT
#887
On March 23 2011 07:02 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 06:53 Insanious wrote:
I love how chaoser's defense is "If you try to kill me, I will do terribly un-town like things and ruin your guy's plans!"


I didn't say that at all, I said I can do things to
1) prove my "power" when people asked me to talk more about it
2) my power makes it hard for people to push/pull me off the edge

I actually have a use for my power when I need to use it that is semi pro-town as far as I can see.



Don't prove you have a power, but prove that you're a townie. NEWSFLASH: Mafia toys have powers to, and powers that mess with the queue sounds very useful for mafia to me.

So the options i see currently:

- Your power lets you swap position with someone in the queue, meaning that once you're on spot 1 you'll swap yourself with someone to save your ass, or maybe even take a high-power townie and pull him off as soon as you perform the switch.

- You're talking out of your ass <--- Leaning towards this one

Also, you were promoting putting everyone closer to the fire, and if you do have a role to mess with the queue that'd put everyone in danger. Not something a townie would do.


If you can prove you're a townie, right now would be the perfect time to do so.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#888
Yes. Just consider Keifru's row a regular filled row.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#889
On March 23 2011 08:02 bumatlarge wrote:
Just making sure, will we be able to pull past keifru properly?


He counts as a second person on his own queue. Just imagine that it's like this:

4. [Keifru][Keifru]

and that you need 2 pops/pulls to move him.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#890
I agree somewhat with Rean. Abilities don't prove you are town. Using your ability to save yourself at the risk of putting others in danger isn't very pro-town, and only helps you as a last resort, and that's also if it's re-usable and really as useful as you say it is. I have no more actions today, but I would say to try to prove yourself as town through logic and analysis, not by rearranging the queue, that proves nothing. Mafia can just as easily have a queue rearranging power, as we've seen already, so that doesn't do much to show us you are town, just that you have a power.
you gotta dance
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:15:59
March 22 2011 23:12 GMT
#891
Day 2 - 15 Toys alive

Current Positions- Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +

20.[___________] [___________]
19.[___________] [___________]
18.[___________] [___________]
17.[___________] [___________]
16.[___________] [___________]

15 [___________] [___________]
14.[annul] [___________]
13.[___________] [___________]
12.[___________] [___________]
11.[OriginalName] [kitaman27]
10. [___________] [___________]
9. [chaoser] [CubEdIn ]
8. [darmousseh] [Rean]
7. [GGQ] [___________]
6. [bumatlarge] [Gmarshal]
5. [Eiii] [Insanious]
4. [Keifru] [___________]
3. [Mr.Wiggles] [RebirthofLegend]
2. [___________] [___________]
1. [___________] [___________]


PoPs- Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +

Mr. Wiggles Push RebirthofLegend Pull Insanious
GGQ Pull Insanious
OriginalName Pull Rean
Kenpachi
annul
bumatlarge
kitaman27 Push annul
Keifru
Insanious Push annul Pull kitaman27
chaoser Push annul Pull RebirthofLegend
darmousseh
RoL Push chaoser
GMarshal Pull RebirthofLegend
Eiii Push CubEdIn
CubEdIn Push GMarshal Pull Kenpachi
Rean Push annul Pull Kenpachi





Kenpachi has been destroyed

I wont reveal his role or anyone else until the end of the Day

Day 2 ends Wednesday, March 23 @ 12AM ET/13:00 KST

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 23:13 GMT
#892
On March 23 2011 08:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I agree somewhat with Rean. Abilities don't prove you are town. Using your ability to save yourself at the risk of putting others in danger isn't very pro-town, and only helps you as a last resort, and that's also if it's re-usable and really as useful as you say it is. I have no more actions today, but I would say to try to prove yourself as town through logic and analysis, not by rearranging the queue, that proves nothing. Mafia can just as easily have a queue rearranging power, as we've seen already, so that doesn't do much to show us you are town, just that you have a power.


And everyone has some sort of power so that results in exactly nothing.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 22 2011 23:16 GMT
#893
##Push Insanious

##Pull Chaoser
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 23:18 GMT
#894
Eiii, can you pull Chaoser down now? Then someone else can pull him off the queue entirely.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 22 2011 23:23 GMT
#895
- Your power lets you swap position with someone in the queue, meaning that once you're on spot 1 you'll swap yourself with someone to save your ass, or maybe even take a high-power townie and pull him off as soon as you perform the switch.


Wrong, completely wrong. I said a lot of people. Please read more.

Also, why in such a hurry to kill me? Tunneling might lead to cave ins.

Kill me if you like, I have uses for my powers that I think will benefit town which I can use before I die though so don't worry too much about that.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 22 2011 23:24 GMT
#896
Also, even if Eii pulls me, I'll be at

2. [___Chaoser__] [___________]
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 23:32 GMT
#897
You're at 5. right now, if Eiii pulls you down you'll go to 2., and his special power pushes you one further so you end up in spot 1.

"Kill me if you like, I have uses for my powers that I think will benefit town which I can use before I die though so don't worry too much about that." i've got the bad feeling this means you'll kill someone aswell.

So far, you've constantly said that your power might be pro-town, and if it is, why not tell us what it is? I mean, it's hard to believe you based on "i've got a power that can do something with the queue" because that's pretty damn general.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 23:36 GMT
#898
Actually, since Eii pushed me, chaoser will drop to my spot first, then to #2. It will take 2 more pushes to kill him.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#899
On March 23 2011 08:32 Rean wrote:
You're at 5. right now, if Eiii pulls you down you'll go to 2., and his special power pushes you one further so you end up in spot 1.

"Kill me if you like, I have uses for my powers that I think will benefit town which I can use before I die though so don't worry too much about that." i've got the bad feeling this means you'll kill someone aswell.

So far, you've constantly said that your power might be pro-town, and if it is, why not tell us what it is? I mean, it's hard to believe you based on "i've got a power that can do something with the queue" because that's pretty damn general.


Why you fishing for my ability so hard? I'll show you mind if you show me yours? =]

Personally I feel like we should let this darm/annul/insanious situation resolve first and then examine what's happened there.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 23:42 GMT
#900
Updated:
Mr. Wiggles Push RoL Pull Insaneous
GGQ Pull Insaneous
OriginalName Pull Rean
Kenpachi
annul
[/s]bumatlarge Push Insaneaous Pull Chaoser[/s]
kitaman27 Push annul
Keifru
Insanious Push annul Pull kitaman27
chaoser Push annul Pull RoL
darmousseh
RoL Push chaoser
GMarshal Pull RebirthofLegend
Eiii Push CubEdIn
CubEdIn Push GMarshal Pull Kenpachi
Rean Push annul Pull Kenpachi

5 pushes, 5 pulls to go.

Also I missed that bum pulled chaoser, so if Eii will pull him as well (with the Hulk power) he will indeed be at #1. One more pull after that and he's out.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
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