Doh, i messed up my vote. Lunar, that was really a bold move. Why are you trying to force chaoser to blow up someone? We need to live as long as possible so we can get more information.

##LunarDestiny

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 18 2011 21:11 GMT

#175

Ugh, i'm terrible

##Unvote
##Vote: Lunar Destiny

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 18 2011 21:36 GMT

#182

On February 19 2011 06:30 chaoser wrote:
BTW, what is everyone's thoughts on suicide for day 1? We barely have any info so I don't know if I'd help with blowing up or not. Though if it were up to me, No guts, no glory, I'd boom =D

If you can hit a mafia 100%, then yeah it's worth it maybe, otherwise we just shorten the amount of information we get if you accidentally blow up a townie.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 18 2011 21:38 GMT

#183

Oh little advertisement: Everyone is welcome to sign up for the game i'm hosting next Survivor as it will start once this game ends. It's an experimental game, but it should be a ton of fun.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 18 2011 22:51 GMT

#226

What the heck happened. Why Lunar? if you are going to do that do it closer to the deadline at least, but threatening someone to go boom just makes you into a into a target. Do we know if they are both green or are we still waiting for the host to post?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 18 2011 22:58 GMT

#232

On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.

Statistcally speaking wouldn't the mafia want people to use their suicide ability since in a simple RNG, they would be more likely to hit a townie? You gotta think of the suicide ability as a tool to pressure people and as a last resort to kill mafia, otherwise we are just shortening the game. Maybe what you did was fine (if chaoser is red), but otherwise I think you did it way too early. One thing though is that you are right about using our suicide ability to pressure people to see if they are mafia, but you did it too soon and it's harder to get any information from it.

##Unvote
##Vote: No lynch

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 19 2011 03:45 GMT

#262

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 19 2011 12:34 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, jackal lets look at whats the current situation is ok?
There are originally 11 players, 3 scum 7 town 1 medic
1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
7. town
8 town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

now chaoser and ld bomb each other so two town die leaving us with:

1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

lets assume a mislynch, a terrible one, we hang the medic

2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum
that leaves 5 town 3 scum, scum have 1 kp so the next day we have

3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

hence lyol, best case scenario we lynch right and also bomb a mafia leaving us with
5. town
6. town
9 scum
at the end of the night

Lets see what happens if we don't lynch today

1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

then over night lets assume no medic save, in fact lets say mafia get lucky and kill the medic

2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

then if we mislynch and assuming no medic save/dead medic, we get a 3/3 tie which means mafia wins

hence it is in our best interest to lynch someone today

please point out where this math is scummy jackal, as of right now I'm tempted to FoS you, the only thing that is keeping me from voting against you is the fact I dont think this is your style when you are mafia, you are far less aggressive when you are

This looks correct to me. Now to identify the correct target. Probably at least 1 of the mafia is lurking and so I think going after a lurker is the best bet. I think that

Amber[light]
Coagulation

Are the most lurky. Coag has yet to contribute at all and amber's posts were mostly fluff, but he's probably a bad townie. Coag has mostly been threatening everyone and I think it's time to put pressure on coag, if only to get him to analyze with us more. Saying something like "On my 4000th post someone is going to die" doesn't help us at all.

For now, i'm putting coag, if he gives good analysis or something other than "Die everyone" then I will probably switch. I have an idea of someone else who is playing scummy, but I'm waiting for them to post again to see if my suspicions are true.

##Unvote
##Vote: Coagulation

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 19 2011 04:00 GMT

#264

6-3 now. No lynch means 6-3 still. mafia kill makes it 5-3 if we miss lynch again it goes to 4-3. Then night kill means 3-3

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 19 2011 04:18 GMT

#268

On February 19 2011 13:11 Jackal58 wrote:
5-3 Night 1
4-3 Day 2
3-3 Night 2 We lose
If we lynch and suck

6-3 Night 1
5-3 Day 2
4-3 Night 2
3-3 Day 3 we lose
If we don't lynch and suck.

i think that's what gmarshal was saying but with more text.

I would think we need to lynch since even if we mislynch(at worst) we still have another shot. If we don't lynch we only have 1 shot total to win.

Now that it's established we need to lynch, we need a WHO. I'm going to stick with coag (and secondary amber) until they post more.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 20 2011 00:55 GMT

#297

coag you are finally posting and you didn't just go "DIE everyone" makes me think you are serious and are probably town this game. Amber was my second suspect and just has been making huge posts of nothing but fluff.

##Unvote
##Vote Amber[Light]

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 20 2011 01:57 GMT

#319

Is this really happening right now?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 20 2011 01:59 GMT

#321

I'm not sure why I even swtched and belived coag. Seriously, he is controlling the flow of this game. Also we need to lynch someone. It's tied right now. I'm not sure of either amber or ggq, but I am certain coag is running this game right now. I still think amber's posts are just fluff, why the sudden switch. I would stay on amber, but that is a tie and the worst possible thing to happen.

##unvote
##Vote: Coagulation

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 20 2011 02:16 GMT

#361

Freaking A, I voted coag because there was about to be a tie in order to break the tie, and we still ended up with a tie. Lynch amber tomorrow for sure.

baruder and ON, where were you guys?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 20 2011 19:00 GMT

#385

wow, that was really screwed up.

Ok, so there was about to be a tie so I voted coag since that would mean GGQ got lynched (since no one else was voting amber).. I probably should have just voted GGQ but I didn't really have any time to think, and I wasn't convinced he is mafia. Amber is really fluffy and has been the whole game. I don't know why coag you suddenly had everyone jump ship.

I think coag is most likely town because he's being very agressive at making people make mistakes. Decon, ON, and barun are the most suspicious for not being super active, but they could just be bored townies. Barun finally posts something significant, but he also didn't really do anything when we had a tie situation on our hands. We needed to lynch someone and by not participating it makes me suspicious.

My guess as to the mafia

GGQ
Amber
gmarshal

Gmarshal this whole time has been just following along and when coag switched, he was one of the first to switch. Maybe he knew that there was a possibility of saving both ggq and amber by not lynching either. I'm like 50% sure on gmarshal. If not gmarshal then it's probably barun or ON.

At the same time, gmarshal is probably just a bandwagoning townie.

Did anyone notice that decon claimed medic?

In any case, it's a travesty that both ggq and amber lived. They are probably both mafia. Let's lynch one, bomb the other.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 21 2011 02:54 GMT

#405

Wow, did not expect that. Coag so crazy.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 21 2011 02:56 GMT

#409

So, now that this is over, come join my survivor game (it counts as a mini mafia)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194256

There's going to be a ton of fun challenges.