TL Mafia XXXVII

Chaoser didn't say anything new. He's repeating what GMarshal said, a typical "contribute without actually contributing" scumtell. But this early in the game I'm willing to excuse it, since new players and bad players won't have much to talk about anyways.

At least Chaoser read BC's Town guide.

I'm fine with the cell idea, but inactivity would still kill a pre-determined set of cells. In addition, what if you're mafia? Then you may have rigged these cells towards your favor. What if instead we made our own cells? Not everyone will get partnered with two mafia.

Please do, the recent trend on TL has been for mafia to lurk and wait for town to self-destruct.

Which would be the point of the cells, so town won't self-destruct as easily. I mean we got PMs, let's use them.

icemac that was possibly the easiest way to dodge taking sides. The dude's probably going to get replaced or modkilled anyways.

Seriously, take a stance on someone. Most of my game since my 6666th post has been going on through PMs, but I guess that was selfish of me >_>

##Vote Icemac

Things to take sides on:
GM vs Gryff- Cell System
Annul vs LSB- XXXV

Personally I doubt either of annul or LSB are scum, this is just a grudgematch. Coag and Kenpachi are playing more pro-town than usual (or maybe its just less spam?)

People I'm suspicious of:
Jackal- Playing a lot more passively than he did as town
Icemac- Stop dodging the issues at hand
Gofarman- Proponent of lynching inactives. Voting annul.
A few more I'm not too sure of, will follow up on their posts tomorrow when I'm awake. Maybe.

Oops, pretty sure I did, sorry. Will do that now.

GM's cell system are independent from each other during day-to-day activities. It also involves less risk because you're not roleclaiming. It's a bottom-up system.

Your cell system is really just one big cell, that doesn't really give each person much choice or flexibility in the matter. It has more risk because "confirmations" are never truly confirmations, just within certain likelihood. It's a top-down system.

In my eyes, GM's is the less-risk, less-return choice, and yours is the high-risk, high-return choice. Personally, I like GM's better, but would rather have a more community-chosen circles.

I propose that anyone who wants to do GM's plan sign up with a confirmation and then we make circles amongst them.

Do you seriously believe this? Do you really think annul would "accidentally" let slip how many mafia there are? I know its wifom but I'm more inclined to believe that there are more than 5 mafia.

Two families... I have no idea where you came up with that. 2 families of five pretty much DOOM the town of twenty completely.

Also no I don't actually believe icemac's mafia, but was happy to see the pressure rising on him. I was not, however, pleased with the lack of reaction he gave. Icemac, please prove me wrong this game and don't be useless.

##Vote: icemac
In case it takes a while to read, was kinda gone the whole weekend kinda

Ok, all caught up.

LSB vs Barundar- LSB is the one who really pushed the annul lynch. That alone makes me doubt that he's mafia, regardless of how scummy the rest of his play so far might seem. Barundar, on the other hand, doesn't have the cleanest record right now. I'd be ok with lynching Barundar, since LSB has already caught one.
interesting

icemac- Getting scummier, really starting to suspect him now. It doesn't help that his lynch is meeting with a lot of resistance. Especially this late in the day. Feels like someone's deliberately diverting the lynch off of him, doesn't it? Personally, I say we go for it. When there's post that triggers a swing in votes this late in the game it feels super suspicious.


Also, it's the end of the day. The entire day cycle was spent with great bickering and squabbles between two parties. Everything was dandy, with two camps clearly lined up. No matter who we lynched, we'd have much more information to look at. But now people are jumping off and actively diverting the lynch. At the end of the day. For no reason other than because foolishness said so.

I hate that. I respect foolishness and all as a player, but that does not mean that we should just blindly do what he tells us. This isn't a battle between a few "priority 1" players, this is isn't even a battle between "priority 1+2" players, this is a game where YOU decide who YOU think is mafia. Is anyone actually voting for people they think are really mafia? Because at this rate, we're going to lose all the progress we made today. And that's bullshit.

Few things:

I never voted for ICanFlyLow. Ever. Check the voting thread, read through my votes. RoL you're cheating >=(

@Axis of Evil post- Actually, the entire post that I made boils down to "IF YOU ALL FOLLOW ONE PERSON WITHOUT ANALYSIS OF YOUR OWN WE GET NO INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE GAME". But of course Ser Aspi you wouldn't really agree with that because you're just sheeping along with foolishness anyways. As for LD and JBright, my supposed "scumbuddies", I'm not going to waste my time defending them.

@KP Issue- I think it's likely that there's 2 godfathers and 3 goons left. That's 3.5KP, which should be enough to do everything. Or our vigi is someone who's under heavy pressure and doesn't think anyone will believe their claim, or a noob who was convinced by mafia not to claim (but he should still claim anyways hinthint). I suppose its also possible that LSB/jackal is lying, but until someone comes up with a plausible explanation why they would do that, I won't believe it.

As for lynch targets for today, I'd really like seeing a lynch on any of us axis of evil guys or gryffindor. Would really give us a good idea of where everyone stands, especially if they flip scum. I can assure you lynching me would only serve to get us a bit closer to LYLO, and also maybe let me make some memorable last words that you might actually listen to, so how about the other 3 guys?

@Jackal- You can't actually expect us to go along without telling us why you want kevconism lynched. Convince me. I don't think you'd lie about the RB, so I'm going to take any analysis you give me as town advice.