EPTSweet.
So then why are all these townies supporting me?
Well, I think it's because when they got their role Pm, it didn't start with "You are mafia your scumbuddies are Annul/Seraph/Chaoser"
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Sweet. So then why are all these townies supporting me? Well, I think it's because when they got their role Pm, it didn't start with "You are mafia your scumbuddies are Annul/Seraph/Chaoser" | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:20 LSB wrote: So you agree that Jackal/Cogulation/The medic are townies? Sweet. So then why are all these townies supporting me? Well, I think it's because when they got their role Pm, it didn't start with "You are mafia your scumbuddies are Annul/Seraph/Chaoser" You know repetitively saying "you are scum!!!" is a rather poor argument. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Coag I have been suspecting, but he hasn't been playing decisively anti town. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, you are the scum here. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:19 chaoser wrote: It doesn't mean you're mafia, but it also doesn't mean you're 100% confirmed townie. 90% sure but not 100%. Why is this a problem? Look at the game where I did my MS paint analysis of BC. He survived a full two days cause we all thought he was 90% town. We then lost the game due to lying and bluesniping. Why not 100%? Give me one solution. LA is Vet, and I get him to claim that he was hit when he wasn't. Again, you are falling for the bait. Instead of evaluating like a townie with "which one is better if we lose it", you evaluate it like a mafia. Which one is better for us to kill? Which one won't hurt us if he is a confirmed townie. In fact, it still shows because instead of trying to lynch LA. You still try to push me. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:21 GMarshal wrote: You know repetitively saying "you are scum!!!" is a rather poor argument. Umm... Considering you've stopped actually responding to my arguments, I don't see how you can take the 'high ground' | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:00 Barundar wrote: You are being played Jackal. We all know you are town and that you are convinced, but really, what made you believe in LSB's lies? I haven't discounted that possibility. However if I have been the number of people that played me is impressive. The fact that they would think so highly of me to put this shitstorm in motion is also some what flattering. It would be one of the best and biggest games scum ever played. I'd feel like the biggest stooge on TL. It would be more epic than Coag blowing up GGQ. Yes I've considered that I'm being played. And shit has happened that makes that possibility nil. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:22 Barundar wrote: Nope, I got a pretty strong town read on Jackal, and as far as I can tell from his silence, he is starting to doubt, why am I really trusting this guy. The information he can give town about your doings once you flip will be pretty damn valuable. Coag I have been suspecting, but he hasn't been playing decisively anti town. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, you are the scum here. My silence is due to me cooking dinner not doubt.  Stuffed pork chops!!!!!!! | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:23 LSB wrote: Why not 100%? Give me one solution. LA is Vet, and I get him to claim that he was hit when he wasn't. Again, you are falling for the bait. Instead of evaluating like a townie with "which one is better if we lose it", you evaluate it like a mafia. Which one is better for us to kill? Which one won't hurt us if he is a confirmed townie. In fact, it still shows because instead of trying to lynch LA. You still try to push me. Ok time to draw a word picture from a town perspective, without knowing you shot someone else and were protected Scenario 1 LSB is Vigi LA is scum LA should have died and didn't , this is near impossible, discard this possibility Scenario 2 LSB is scum LA is vet LSB decides to waste a kp on a minor target to claim vigi, ok its doable, but odd, I guess if the scum team thought LA was a blue or really wanted to confirm LSB, this is a real possibility although unlikely here the best scenario is hang LSB Scenario 3 LSB is vigi LA is vet it makes no sense for LSB to waste his shot on LA but it could happen, if we hang LSB then LA could still be red and lying Scenario 4 LSB is scum LA is scum They are both lying double hang. if we hang LSB we prove nothing Whatever happens hanging LA and having him flip blue dosn't necessarily confirm LSB, although having him flip red confirms LSB as scum as it could still be a scum KP. If we lynch LSB and he flips anything but vigi it tells us nothing about LA. this actualy smacks of an LSB power play. if it were anyone else I would have a hard time believing it TLDR: from a logical town perspective lynching either LA or LSB would not necessarily tell us anything about the other players. This means that anyone who wanted to hang LSB was just as valid as anyone who wanted to hang LA as it gives us different and probably inconclusive information depending on the flip. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
LSB shot Bum, see last two pages. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
1) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, LSB. LSB shot bumatlarge. LSB was medic protected. LA is vet. 2) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, bumatlarge. LSB is lying about being vig. LA is vet. 3) Mafia hit Foolishness, bumatlarge. LSB, LA lying. 4) Something I'm missing. If it is situation 1 or 2, why would mafia hit LA? | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On March 06 2011 09:05 deconduo wrote: So last night the following happened: 1) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, LSB. LSB shot bumatlarge. LSB was medic protected. LA is vet. 2) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, bumatlarge. LSB is lying about being vig. LA is vet. 3) Mafia hit Foolishness, bumatlarge. LSB, LA lying. 4) Something I'm missing. If it is situation 1 or 2, why would mafia hit LA? 4.) Mafia hit bumatlarge, foolishness, LA and LSB are lying 5.) mafia hit foolishness, LSB, LSB was medic saved, LSB hit bumatlarge, LA lied at LSB's request so did LSB. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On March 06 2011 08:49 GMarshal wrote: I know, the point of this is that before we knew that it was not necessarily a mistake to want to lynch LSB based on the information we had at hand Oh I see. Well, I agree that the wagon on LSB doesn't prove much, because LSB has been targeted many, many times this game. So I kinda get why people would pick him over LA. It's just that chaoser has been far more aggressive than anyone else, and he's had some shifty posts in the past (see vote on LSB in day 2, with no real arguments). Well, off to sleep now. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
-Why did you lie about hitting LA -Why did you not claim hit earlier -Did LA actually get hit? | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
On March 06 2011 07:43 LSB wrote: Chaoser immediately pushed the town to lynching LSB instead of LA. Instead of lynching LA to confirm LSB, he realizes this could be his chance to take out LSB, who's been confirmed three times over Where were these confirmations? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 06 2011 05:47 Jackal58 wrote: Lemme rain on your collective parades. 1. LSB is town 2. LSB is vigi. 3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA. 4. I am speaking for one of our medics. 5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle. 6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand. 7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA. 8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA. 9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer. 10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness. !!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names. There are 2 ways you guys can confirm some of this. 1 - Continue with you lynch of LSB. He is a vigi. This will provide absolutely no info on LA. Will only let you know that I'm not bullshitting you. 2 - Lynch me. You get a vanilla townie. And no other useful information. Both options are anti-town. We need all the townies we can get no matter if they are lucid or not. Lynch Chaoser. How did you come to the 'Lynch Chaoser' conclusion from this post. Whether or not the rest of it is true, you have a really annoying habit of making large leaps in logic and not explaining them. | ||
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