EPTMy only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow
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My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow | ||
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##unvote ##Vote GMarshal Now town come tomorrow don't let LSB persuade you that "it was all a mistake" and "oh look at this much better target" tomorrow you fucking hang LSB | ||
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##unvote GMarshal ##Vote: LSB | ||
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1. LSB is town 2. LSB is vigi. 3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA. 4. I am speaking for one of our medics. 5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle. 6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand. 7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA. 8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA. 9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer. 10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness. !!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names. 1.) right... 2.) ok... 3.) then why the hell did he lie about it? and why bum? EXPLAIN!!! 4.) ok... 5.) and why didn't he claim that this morning, it would have been nice to know? 6.) Then I want an explanation out of him, PM will suffice 7.) LSB believes alot of strange stuff 8.) ok... 9.) fine, I can accept that, I don't know how much of your circle is imaginary though. 10.) really now, that dosn't clear them at all though, being in a circle with someone means very little. 11.) and this list is? this proves nothing to me you provide no evidence, and no backup after LSB playing the way he is i'm not going to just take your word for it jackal sorry. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + GMarshal Hi! Would you like to be the first member of my analysis circle? if so I'll be PMing you with my thoughts and bouncing analysis off you! I hope you can do the same with me. If you *are* scum, I don't care, as this will just give me more to analyze, if you aren't then this will be good for the both of us. So yeah, RoL already warned us these would be necessary so I think we might as well start one, I think you should pick a 3rd member just so we can have the most unbiased analysis possible, if you don't want to pick a 3rd member then we can just go with a two person circle or I can choose. + Show Spoiler + chaoser You choose lol, and yes, lets, same to you. GMarshal So, I'm going to go with darmousseh, on a whim. that good with you? chaoser sure, i'd rather have a newbie in our group though since we're both decent players and I think by inviting a newbie in we prevent them from 1) lurking if they're mafia and 2) makes them feel more "part of the game" and so they'll actually want to play and help town instead of doing stupid shit/not saying anything so that by day 5 when we post analysis they'll come off as horrible red when they're just bored town, I know when I first started I chilled a lot and came off as that GMarshal I already sent him the invite, we can add a newb if you want though, go ahead and pick one randomly and we can incorporate him chaoser I picked icemat. I don't quite understand the cells. Sorry, running on pure coffee right now + Show Spoiler + Original Message From GMarshal: The cells are just a group of people you bounce ideas off, this encourages more active posting as you feel obliged by more active players asking you questions and bouncing ideas off you. This also leads to people posting more and more stuff to analyze Did you send him a PM btw? chaoser yeah, i told him I was in a group with you GMarhsal ok, thanks chaoser What do you think about annul's mafia count thing? also people need to get off my back, wish this was guts and glory again... Original Message From GMarshal: annul is playing stupid and I would lynch him just on that it is true you seem to always be picked on day 1... sorry? Its a fair assumption to assume 6 mafia in a 30 player game, but it could also be a scum slip, right now I'm unsure, if we did lynch him and he flipped red then I would believe we have a 6 mafia team to deal with chaoser Mr. Wiggle's post is exactly what I was thinking, we don't know the GF set up so it could be that there's 4 players only, or 5 for KP. Usually 6 mafia is standard when the KP is calculated as 3 for 6, 2 for 4, 1 for 2. But this is like some crazy addition thing with GF being 1 KP so the math would be off? 6 is like 1+2.5 so 3.5. I guess it's not that off since that means 3 KP + 1 power. Maybe I'm just too tired ugh. I think I'mm go back to studying and then turn in for the night + Show Spoiler + chaoser While I do like the idea of cells, I think you should back off of it, it's detracting from everything else town needs to do, feel like it's just two town (you and BM) butting heads over an issue you won't agree on. It gives a chance for mafia to seem like they contributing too by just dropping in and commenting. Let's just work on our own circle, it seems some have thought it was a good idea too. At the very least, activity is at an all time high this game lol. I'll post this idea in thread too. GMarshal Ok, I'm done talking about cells then. Lets get scum hunting/poking inactives + Show Spoiler + Original Message From GMarshal: gryffindor is really aggravating! Anyway I doubt the town is stupid enough to lynch me off his accusations, so I guess its best we consider real targets. Any thoughts on annul? chaoser holy crap i'm busy for a day and the game turns into a shit fest...wtf annul...I'm willing to vote him just cause spam is BAD for the game, especially if it's just two people yelling at each other. At least you and grfy were talking about plans, he's just spamming with LSB...going to make it hard to play endgame when there's like 60 pages to go through...i'll catch up tmr morning, just wrote a 6 page paper in 2 hours. I aced my test btw lol. + Show Spoiler + Original Message From GMarshal: I made a quick topic for our little circle, I still mistrust icemac, so keep an eye on his posts http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/hTug9L8PrCD chaoser Actually I was just about to pm you about that dude. Annul: At present, annul is bad for town whether he's mafia or not...I mean there's not helping town and there's being detrimental to town. Making the thread into a heated mud slinging battle=not very good atmosphere to be catching red in. Promoting discussion is fine, promoting flaming is not. It just lets mafia blend in and take sides and have an easy way of "contributing to discussion". I know he can do better too, it's just a question of why isn't he i guess. I hate policy lynches but if it keeps going this way... I'm willing to have him as a fall back lynch if no one else comes up. Icemat: That being said, icemat is looking pretty scummy to me. He's not saying anything at all, he's saying there's nothing to analysis day 1 so he won't do it, doesn't take a real stance on anything. And then he votes an inactive when clearly we have A LOT to go on? come on now...what's your opinion on him? + Show Spoiler + Original Message From GMarshal: Annul I don't have a very good read on, he is either an aggressive/stupid townie or just scum. I agree though, he would make a fine fall back lynch, although I think LSB is pushing for him a little too hard. Ice is playing faaaar to aggressive for a new player, its interesting how his PM to me is rather apologetic, which makes me think he is possibly flip flopping scum. Also notice how he didn't post all that much,yet he took annul/gryffindors side so he could have expected to go by kind of unnoticed yet noted as a contributor, also this would keep annul/gryffindor from jumping on him. Right now I have a minor scum read on him, hopefully we can bait out more information. Also anyone who says analysis isn't worth anything day 1 just looks scummy in my eyes thoughts on Jackal? chaoser LSB just doesn't like him lawl lol. They got history. Can i see the PM from ice? Gmarshal Sure "Hey chaoser told me that you me Darm and him are in the same circle or whatever. Just Pm'ing it up to get acquainted. My bad for shitting on your idea earlier. Still not a big fan of it but if it helps us win then so be it. talk to you later." + Show Spoiler + Original Message From GMarshal: Damnit, and I was sure he was town too... alright, thoughts? From the votes I would take a look at LD amongst others. chaoser dude...i don't trust icemac...he's in the group but hasn't said anything. He doesn't do analysis, gives shit reasons for not doing it, I think he's red, two bandwagons formed on him and annul, mafia couldn't do anything and bussed annul while trying to semi trying to see if they could get it off him and onto other targets. what do you think? Original Message From GMarshal: Its possible, but what *really* concerns me is the ridiculous blue sniping that took place, this makes me almost certain that a really good player is on the scum team, also notice how they used up all their KP (I'm assuming 3). The other possibility is those blues were stupid and claimed to someone (if wiggles claimed then it was probably to LSB, IMO), just my general thoughts. icemac we can go after if no better lynches present themselves chaoser if it's a 6 man setup and annul died, it's 5 men, meaning 3 KP. I don't know if RoL is using 1 KP per kill or rounding up system, I just PMed him. If it's rounding up then 2.5 KP can still kill 3 people and they can still frame/cover so if that's the case then i still wouldn't trust DTs, it could even be mafia claiming, and then when the person gets lynched, they can say he got framed... GMarshal I agree, I'm not saying to trust DTs, I'm pointing out that whoever mafia is feels confident enough to not care to use frames/covers that much day 1 Chaoser hey, what are you thoughts on __________? I think we can trust him. Talking to him on skype, if you got skype, get on and we can start a chat, I think we can get somewhere with this (moved onto skype from there on) | ||
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On March 05 2011 07:23 GMarshal wrote: Well, why didn't you just shoot him instead of calling for a vigi to do it? Why did you shoot tonight rather than yesterday night? Do you know for a fact that there is a second vigi that could have overlapped with you, or is that just a guess? you didn't reply to this question with the natural response "I was roleblocked" which would have been a perfectly logical response, instead you dodge the question. Having a difficult time keeping track of your lies? Or is there something im missing? | ||
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Also its nice to see a blue circle formed, seems like we learned nothing of salem. I hope for all your sake's that LSB dosn't flip red or the streets will probably run with blue blood tonight. Lynch LSB because he lied and town has no need of lies. If he flips blue then its his own damn fault, if he wanted to defend LA he should have used logic not lies. | ||
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Like the absolute lack of a bandwagon against chaoser we are seeing right now... oh...wait... | ||
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I'm just going to stand here and think about that for the next 20 minutes or so... That is either an absolutely brilliant Town plan or the most diabolical piece of BS i have been graced with seeing... | ||
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Now if I'm wrong again and choaser flips red well then on my head be it. But I dont think thats going to happen | ||
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On February 10 2011 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: 7. darmousseh - Medic, Night 1 . Night 1 you say? assuming the poor sod is still alive though, you have no reason to kill him, you get to "suggest" who he protects, and look that way you don't have to double stack foolishness. or really worry about his protects. | ||
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On March 06 2011 08:20 LSB wrote: So you agree that Jackal/Cogulation/The medic are townies? Sweet. So then why are all these townies supporting me? Well, I think it's because when they got their role Pm, it didn't start with "You are mafia your scumbuddies are Annul/Seraph/Chaoser" You know repetitively saying "you are scum!!!" is a rather poor argument. | ||
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On March 06 2011 08:23 LSB wrote: Why not 100%? Give me one solution. LA is Vet, and I get him to claim that he was hit when he wasn't. Again, you are falling for the bait. Instead of evaluating like a townie with "which one is better if we lose it", you evaluate it like a mafia. Which one is better for us to kill? Which one won't hurt us if he is a confirmed townie. In fact, it still shows because instead of trying to lynch LA. You still try to push me. Ok time to draw a word picture from a town perspective, without knowing you shot someone else and were protected Scenario 1 LSB is Vigi LA is scum LA should have died and didn't , this is near impossible, discard this possibility Scenario 2 LSB is scum LA is vet LSB decides to waste a kp on a minor target to claim vigi, ok its doable, but odd, I guess if the scum team thought LA was a blue or really wanted to confirm LSB, this is a real possibility although unlikely here the best scenario is hang LSB Scenario 3 LSB is vigi LA is vet it makes no sense for LSB to waste his shot on LA but it could happen, if we hang LSB then LA could still be red and lying Scenario 4 LSB is scum LA is scum They are both lying double hang. if we hang LSB we prove nothing Whatever happens hanging LA and having him flip blue dosn't necessarily confirm LSB, although having him flip red confirms LSB as scum as it could still be a scum KP. If we lynch LSB and he flips anything but vigi it tells us nothing about LA. this actualy smacks of an LSB power play. if it were anyone else I would have a hard time believing it TLDR: from a logical town perspective lynching either LA or LSB would not necessarily tell us anything about the other players. This means that anyone who wanted to hang LSB was just as valid as anyone who wanted to hang LA as it gives us different and probably inconclusive information depending on the flip. | ||
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On March 06 2011 09:05 deconduo wrote: So last night the following happened: 1) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, LSB. LSB shot bumatlarge. LSB was medic protected. LA is vet. 2) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, bumatlarge. LSB is lying about being vig. LA is vet. 3) Mafia hit Foolishness, bumatlarge. LSB, LA lying. 4) Something I'm missing. If it is situation 1 or 2, why would mafia hit LA? 4.) Mafia hit bumatlarge, foolishness, LA and LSB are lying 5.) mafia hit foolishness, LSB, LSB was medic saved, LSB hit bumatlarge, LA lied at LSB's request so did LSB. | ||
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LSB is most likely scum, lynch him | ||
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