TL Mafia XXXVII - Page 7

On March 14 2011 09:12 kevconsim wrote:
private messages from why to me

Jackal has assured me that you are town. The remaining mafia are almost certainly deconduo and CubedIn. CubedIn today and Deconduo tomorrow.

Wrong

I am going to keep posting about how I think you are mafia in thread so that hopefully the endgame will be me, you, and deconduo. The other possibility is scarier = me, GMarshal, and deconduo. We need to know where GMarshal stands today. I'll PM him but I don't think he responded much to Jackal even. It might be worth going after deconduo today just so Cubed is the definite lynch on the final day.

Wrong and didn't happen

No...but I have said multiple times in thread that I think you are. Therefore mafia will likely expect me to vote for you tomorrow so they'll let me live since you are actually town.

Obvious PM editing here, why do this? Also wrong.

Deconduo is the last scum and we will lynch him tomorrow.

k, except you died.

It doesn't matter at this point. GMarshal is pretty much on board, as long as deconduo is scum we win.

On March 14 2011 09:15 kevconsim wrote:
my private messages with jackal58


You sir are keeping me alive. Don't make me push you. I don't want anybody to start voting for you. Especially our scum team.
That team is -
CubEdin
LD
deconduo.
Dunno which is gf.
Don't get all up in arms about me fosing you. It's keeping you alive too.

I'm really hoping that either you or Why are a vet. If you are please claim so we can get a hit directed towards you.

Dude you are going to be called everything under the sun for the next 2 days.Really, where did this happen?



Don't take it personally. You are the key to town winning. Defend yourself but don't get angry. We have this won. But to win it you need to be the center of attention.
Wrong, never happened

You will not be lynched. Cubed is next up for that. But you are going to be called scum. Cubed is going to be the assumed GF.

Right, except that only Jackal called you scum.

LD is about to go down. Decon has let this happen because he believes I think you are scum. Wrong, in fact I tried to tell Jackal you were town, not the other way around.
Cubed has rolled over in the thread already. Decon has told his scum team that I am convinced Decon is town and that you are scum. LOL He believes this because that's what I told him I believe.

So basically all wrong as well.

Don't take the next 24 hours personally. Don't believe anything I post in the thread. All of my posts from here on out are for scum consumption only.
If you have issues or questions keep them in PMs

Except none of this even happened

If decon or cubed pm you with questions please forward them to me before answering. I have a multitude of lies sitting in their in boxes. Please don't hang me out to dry.

On March 14 2011 22:34 GMarshal wrote:
Alright, decon you know I was leaning towards you not being scum, and then I saw the kill pattern, noticeably the fact that I survived the night.

So let me analyze this from a killer's perspective shall I? Lets assume I'm kevoconism and I am the scum GF, now I'm looking at who is left as a viable target and its

Why
Decon
GMarshal

now as kev I have this wonderful PM from why sitting in my inbox saying that if I survive the night I'm going to hang decon, and I have nothing from GMarshal except suspicions from earlier in the thread. Why in the 9 hells of bator would I choose to hit why, who THINKS I'M TOWN? that kill makes absolutely no sense from that perspective, instead I would hit GMarshal and have the game in the bag... but notice how I the gullible one survived the night

He edited that PM, it could have said something quite different. Why could have changed his mind and he just didn't post that PM. Maybe Cubed told him to kill why. Any number of reasons.


Lets look at it from a deconduo perspective shall we? I am decon the mafia GF and I'm looking at my targets for the night:

Why
Kevconism
GMarshal

Now, I could go after GMarshal who I know to be both gullible AND scummy looking, an easy lynch is I can persuade kev, which should not be a challenge. So why would I kill him?

Kev would be an ok target but then I have to convince GMarshal that why is scum or why that GM is scum and why has said that GM is probably town, now that would be a challenge, considering why is a pretty decent player who might make good arguments against me.

Or I could take out why, who is clearly the best player from those who are still left alive, as insurance I'll even use .5 kp to reverse him first. Then its a simple task of convincing kev that GM is scum because he has defended scum all game long.

I would put you as a MUCH better player than why. Why's play this game has been atrocious, especially if the PMs are legit and he bought into Jackal's idiocy.

That was a mistake, you should have hit kev, I was more than willing to believe why as a scum player, however I didn't post it to avoid him targeting me at night

If I was mafia I would have 100% hit kev the moment I saw Cubed wasn't GF.

For completness sake lets consider it from GMarshal's view point as well. Lets say I am the GF and I'm looking at possible targets for tonight

Why
Decon
kevconism

I could go after why who has already told me that he thinks Decon is the GF but that would be eliminating a very useful ally. I could also take out Decon who is my likely lynchee for tomorrow but that would be moronic, or I could take out kevconism who is a useless player who's vote I'm unsure of. There the logical move would be to eradicate kev and count on why following through with his plan.

So logically the only person who would kill why at this point in the endgame is you deconduo

Which means you are deconduo the Mafia Godfather

On March 15 2011 06:44 GMarshal wrote:
You are right, my defense of chaoser was a sheep move as well as me being the only guy defending icemac, yep I'm a sheep.

Assume I am sheeping then. Its irrelevant, i've already proven that my judgment is suspect. every single independent decision I've made this game has sucked, I chose to trust the wrong people, I defended and sided with scum on every occasion. I've proven that I have to leave the big guns to analyze while I limit myself to what I'm good at.

On March 15 2011 06:49 GMarshal wrote:
You call it WIFOM, i call it logic combined with past behavior. Looking at your posts you never actually really weigh in definitively on anything, your only contribution is the thing about DTs in day one and it proved to be absolutely worthless, I think you played a magnificent game of lurking, staying in the shadows and avoiding being called out for it.

Satisfy my curiosity, what role are you?

On March 15 2011 06:55 GMarshal wrote:
I like how you don't care who changes their vote as long as someone does, pretty revealing.

On March 15 2011 07:40 GMarshal wrote:


and that is a modkillable offense IIRC, hopefully you'll only get a warning

damnit, bad kev, don't you recognize a gambit when you see it? decon wants to vote with me so bad he is probably salivating, he is just waiting to make a decent post where he justifies it, and then bam, I have him in the bag, I coudn't just tell you on the off chance you were scum

*fumes*

##unvote
##Vote deconduo

On March 15 2011 07:11 GMarshal wrote:
Alright, I was hoping for a blue claim at this point, it would have been pretty revealing. And btw annul was definetly a bus with 3/10 scum on the wagon, as a matter of fact there was no lynch with less than two scum on the wagon as far as I can tell so I have to say that scum had a pretty bussy policy this game. (and hell it might even still pay off)

So yeah I would have no difficulty believing that you bussed, well pretty much anyone, also your "I'm torn" vote with chaoser was pretty interesting, almost as if you knew what he was going to flip and jumped ship ahead of time