EPT3/2/11 02:24
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Original Message From gryffindor:
you know what's both interesting and cool?
JBright and Seraph were both on icemac, but not annul, and they are two of the leading wagons. JBright's vote on me is so pitiful, but I don't feel like OMGUSing again
you know what's both interesting and cool?
JBright and Seraph were both on icemac, but not annul, and they are two of the leading wagons. JBright's vote on me is so pitiful, but I don't feel like OMGUSing again
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Original Message From deconduo:
Signs you need a break:
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Signs you need a break:
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Original Message From gryffindor:
Already on top of it!
To: Coagulation [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: mafi
Date: 3/1/11 21:23
why are you voting JBright with a nearly RVS-style post on d3? Can you not make a case? Like, are you completely incapable of giving proper reasoning?
Already on top of it!
To: Coagulation [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: mafi
Date: 3/1/11 21:23
why are you voting JBright with a nearly RVS-style post on d3? Can you not make a case? Like, are you completely incapable of giving proper reasoning?
Original Message From deconduo:
On a different note, Coag has 110 posts in the game, all but ~3 of them are one liners. I know he has a spammy reputation but I'm pretty sure he contributed a lot more in Orgah.
On a different note, Coag has 110 posts in the game, all but ~3 of them are one liners. I know he has a spammy reputation but I'm pretty sure he contributed a lot more in Orgah.
Original Message From gryffindor:
I am impressed.
That was a very good analysis.
I don't believe he believes LD is dead. There is no way. LD has been posting today.
Why is Foolishness alive still? There are only 2 explanations
1) Mafia feel like Foolishness will be medic protected
2) Foolishness is mafia
Otherwise, they would definitely be killing him. He is much more outspoken than this as a townie, and the fact that he is such a "veteran" is indicative he will actually have a role.
I also expect you have a role, though I'm not asking you to divulge me.
I am impressed.
That was a very good analysis.
I don't believe he believes LD is dead. There is no way. LD has been posting today.
Why is Foolishness alive still? There are only 2 explanations
1) Mafia feel like Foolishness will be medic protected
2) Foolishness is mafia
Otherwise, they would definitely be killing him. He is much more outspoken than this as a townie, and the fact that he is such a "veteran" is indicative he will actually have a role.
I also expect you have a role, though I'm not asking you to divulge me.
3/2/11 00:11
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Original Message From gryffindor:
I thought southern ireland was
What do you expect made him shift focus away from LD?
Do you feel he was attempting to bus LD.. well, not bus, but create distancing?
I thought southern ireland was
What do you expect made him shift focus away from LD?
Do you feel he was attempting to bus LD.. well, not bus, but create distancing?
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Original Message From deconduo:
Well its safer to assume the worst until a vig claims. It could also be 2 GF, 3 grunts which would add up right too. That would explain the ambiguity on the godfather numbers.
Foolishness had changed his focus to Seraph yesterday over LD. He didn't really explain why but he did ask for a vig shot on seraph and said he would be pushing for a seraph lynch today.
Also Ireland is not part of the UK -_-
Well its safer to assume the worst until a vig claims. It could also be 2 GF, 3 grunts which would add up right too. That would explain the ambiguity on the godfather numbers.
Foolishness had changed his focus to Seraph yesterday over LD. He didn't really explain why but he did ask for a vig shot on seraph and said he would be pushing for a seraph lynch today.
Also Ireland is not part of the UK -_-
Original Message From gryffindor:
I said United Kingdom, didn't I?
Also, I expected there to be 5 mafia left. Why do you believe there are 6?
2 days from now, unless we get mafia, will definitely be LYLO. I said that in the thread already, but that was assuming FIVE, not six.
If there are 6 left, with all the kp/mechanics, I am sort of disappointed in the balance.
You definitely have played with me a few times, and you are underrating yourself, because you should be much more confident in your ability. Sometimes, simply not being lynched as town is better than being a great scumhunter. Look at me, I'm very good at catching scum, but I have a hard time convincing people that I am correct. I also get lynched a lot, regardless of my alignment, because my playstyle is very inefficient compared to the logical and non-gut style that is used by people who are considered "good" in terms of convincing people of things.
I could use weighted language in the style of L to convince people, but I am not going to change myself. I have done it in the past, and I really didn't enjoy it, as me pushing lynches in a mini mafia here lead to a few greens dying. Therefore, even if I consider GMarshal scum, for instance, I'm not going to be pushing him.
Why? Because it's pointless whether or not he is scum if I can't convince a bandwagon to form around him.
Speaking of bandwagons, I wouldn't be surprised if LD/JBright/Seraph were all town.
Speaking of their alignments, why do you believe Foolishness is now voting for Seraph, when he made a big case on LD yesterday, with only a minor FoS on Seraph?
I said United Kingdom, didn't I?
Also, I expected there to be 5 mafia left. Why do you believe there are 6?
2 days from now, unless we get mafia, will definitely be LYLO. I said that in the thread already, but that was assuming FIVE, not six.
If there are 6 left, with all the kp/mechanics, I am sort of disappointed in the balance.
You definitely have played with me a few times, and you are underrating yourself, because you should be much more confident in your ability. Sometimes, simply not being lynched as town is better than being a great scumhunter. Look at me, I'm very good at catching scum, but I have a hard time convincing people that I am correct. I also get lynched a lot, regardless of my alignment, because my playstyle is very inefficient compared to the logical and non-gut style that is used by people who are considered "good" in terms of convincing people of things.
I could use weighted language in the style of L to convince people, but I am not going to change myself. I have done it in the past, and I really didn't enjoy it, as me pushing lynches in a mini mafia here lead to a few greens dying. Therefore, even if I consider GMarshal scum, for instance, I'm not going to be pushing him.
Why? Because it's pointless whether or not he is scum if I can't convince a bandwagon to form around him.
Speaking of bandwagons, I wouldn't be surprised if LD/JBright/Seraph were all town.
Speaking of their alignments, why do you believe Foolishness is now voting for Seraph, when he made a big case on LD yesterday, with only a minor FoS on Seraph?
Original Message From deconduo:
Really? I always feel out of the loop and a bit lost as town. In fact I've been trying to play a bit more confident and more aggressive than normal. Strange that it seems to have had the opposite effect. What games did I seem less out of it in? I wouldn't be surprised if I was mafia in all of them.
I'm flattered that you think I'm a good scumhunter but I'm really not I would consider myself a good townie but a bad scumhunter if that makes sense. I've never been lynched as town. I'm usually good at drawing hits and I get killed pretty early on by mafia. But I've also never 'caught' a mafia as it were. If I have a list of 6-7 FoSes usually at most one is mafia. (I know this because whenever I die I play a little game with myself when I ask host for the role list. Most I've gotten right is 2 
) Even with annul I probably would have unvoted him near the end if I wasn't asleep at the time. I was kinda surprised that he was mafia tbh.
As regards the Foolishness thing, what's holding me back somewhat is that I kinda agree with him about Lunar. While I wouldn't have FoSd him initially his response to Foolishness has been less than stellar. I've been considering keeping this quiet for now and simply helping push the lynch on LD. If he flips red then I really doubt Foolishness, as mafia, tried to divert the bandwagon from LSB to LD. If LD flips town then I will definitely pushing them.
However, I have a problem here too. If there was no vig shot last night then we could be at mylo:
3.5 KP : 1 GF, 5 grunts
13 - 6 now
13 - 5 lynch 1, 3 KP left
10 - 5 3 KP used
10 - 4 lynch 1, 2.5 KP left
7 - 4 2.5 KP used
7 - 3 lynch 1, 2 KP left
5 - 3 2 KP used
5 - 2 lynch 1, 1.5 KP left
3 - 2 1.5 KP used
3 - 1 lynch 1, 1 KP left
2 - 1 1 KP used -> lylo.
There are a couple of assumptions in there that could be wrong, and it doesn't take into account vigs, bombers, medic saves, vet hits etc. Even still if we don't hit mafia today it could be really bad.
Sorry for the big wall of stuff. I just needed someone to unload my thoughts onto and you were the most convenient I still haven't forgiven you for calling me English though.
Really? I always feel out of the loop and a bit lost as town. In fact I've been trying to play a bit more confident and more aggressive than normal. Strange that it seems to have had the opposite effect. What games did I seem less out of it in? I wouldn't be surprised if I was mafia in all of them.
I'm flattered that you think I'm a good scumhunter but I'm really not
I would consider myself a good townie but a bad scumhunter if that makes sense. I've never been lynched as town. I'm usually good at drawing hits and I get killed pretty early on by mafia. But I've also never 'caught' a mafia as it were. If I have a list of 6-7 FoSes usually at most one is mafia. (I know this because whenever I die I play a little game with myself when I ask host for the role list. Most I've gotten right is 2 ) Even with annul I probably would have unvoted him near the end if I wasn't asleep at the time. I was kinda surprised that he was mafia tbh.As regards the Foolishness thing, what's holding me back somewhat is that I kinda agree with him about Lunar. While I wouldn't have FoSd him initially his response to Foolishness has been less than stellar. I've been considering keeping this quiet for now and simply helping push the lynch on LD. If he flips red then I really doubt Foolishness, as mafia, tried to divert the bandwagon from LSB to LD. If LD flips town then I will definitely pushing them.
However, I have a problem here too. If there was no vig shot last night then we could be at mylo:
3.5 KP : 1 GF, 5 grunts
13 - 6 now
13 - 5 lynch 1, 3 KP left
10 - 5 3 KP used
10 - 4 lynch 1, 2.5 KP left
7 - 4 2.5 KP used
7 - 3 lynch 1, 2 KP left
5 - 3 2 KP used
5 - 2 lynch 1, 1.5 KP left
3 - 2 1.5 KP used
3 - 1 lynch 1, 1 KP left
2 - 1 1 KP used -> lylo.
There are a couple of assumptions in there that could be wrong, and it doesn't take into account vigs, bombers, medic saves, vet hits etc. Even still if we don't hit mafia today it could be really bad.
Sorry for the big wall of stuff. I just needed someone to unload my thoughts onto and you were the most convenient
I still haven't forgiven you for calling me English though.Original Message From gryffindor:
Now that FIRST one is interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the godfather.
Can we afford to lose a player like you, me, LSB or Foolishness if they are town, though? I mean, we could afford to, but it's not advisable.
We need the active players who are good scumhunters around.
BTW, I don't mean for you to take this the wrong way, but you seem really out of it in comparison to games I've played with you in the past. I definitely would have an excuse for that, if the same was said for me, but I actually feel my play has been rather calm, composed, and collected in comparison to my normal play... regardless of what is going on in my life. So, basically, what I want you to answer is this: Why do you feel so out of the loop?
Now that FIRST one is interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the godfather.
Can we afford to lose a player like you, me, LSB or Foolishness if they are town, though? I mean, we could afford to, but it's not advisable.
We need the active players who are good scumhunters around.
BTW, I don't mean for you to take this the wrong way, but you seem really out of it in comparison to games I've played with you in the past. I definitely would have an excuse for that, if the same was said for me, but I actually feel my play has been rather calm, composed, and collected in comparison to my normal play... regardless of what is going on in my life. So, basically, what I want you to answer is this: Why do you feel so out of the loop?
Original Message From deconduo:
And this was the first one:
And this was the first one:
Original Message From Foolishness:
Can you give me an explanation of what happened between you and gryffindor in PM land? I know I'm probably making you angry for having to explain again, but if he messed up really bad I can help gather support for you in the thread. Or anyone else you might want to lynch.
Can you give me an explanation of what happened between you and gryffindor in PM land? I know I'm probably making you angry for having to explain again, but if he messed up really bad I can help gather support for you in the thread. Or anyone else you might want to lynch.
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Original Message From gryffindor:
I would find that suspicious as fuck, especially if it was from an experienced player, like Foolishness.
I would find that suspicious as fuck, especially if it was from an experienced player, like Foolishness.
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Original Message From deconduo:
I know this might sound strange but hear me out.
Suppose someone sent you a PM saying that they could 'help you get xxxx, or anyone else you want lynched'
In addition, a short time later they tell you to lay off on LSB, saying if he's scum he will slip up later. 'Just ignore him'
Finally, if you knew they told Barundar to do the same thing (ignore LSB).
Would that be really really suspicious? Or am I reading too much into it.
I know this might sound strange but hear me out.
Suppose someone sent you a PM saying that they could 'help you get xxxx, or anyone else you want lynched'
In addition, a short time later they tell you to lay off on LSB, saying if he's scum he will slip up later. 'Just ignore him'
Finally, if you knew they told Barundar to do the same thing (ignore LSB).
Would that be really really suspicious? Or am I reading too much into it.
I really don't think he's mafia
