EPTI'm happy voting him for the opposite of your reasoning, though, in that he doesn't want a GMarshal lynch. I would join his wagon if it gets to the point where we need to consolidate.
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
I'm happy voting him for the opposite of your reasoning, though, in that he doesn't want a GMarshal lynch. I would join his wagon if it gets to the point where we need to consolidate. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
My massclaim is to ONE PERSON who will be CONFIRMED through night actions That is how you play mafia as a town, you confirm a doctor or a vigilante through a protection or a kill. If it's a vigilante kill, it better be on mafia, or pre-called and you better hope the mafia don't skimp on killing power as opposed to previous nights, so the vigilante idea could be easily manipulated into submission. A protection, however, would give us a clear for a day. Cross-referencing counterclaims is how we would be able to create lynch-pools, or at the least be able to hold people accountable for their night actions in PMs, as opposed to in the thread which would enable mafia to counteract us with their role reversal mechanic. Just sayin'  | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
On February 24 2011 15:14 Coagulation wrote: I Should mention i talked with ROL in PM and he may have shared some information relevant to the nature of this setup and from what little i could decipher or gather of it so far claiming seems to be the wrong way to go. claiming, to a confirmed, in PM.. on like DAY 2 or DAY 3. I'm not saying claim on d1, although if you all wanted to claim to me that would work. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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gryffindor
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you create a confirmation you whisper them your claims mafia will likely claim townie, we will probably have 1-3 of each power role if we have like 5 trackers, though, who knows. It can happen if you have a certain mod. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
OK lets dissect that game... made... use PMs Ok, he made the game, and we can use PMs... It's not right to mass claim to someone who isn't confirmed, sure. That's what you're blindly saying, right? Now, if someone is confirmed to have taken a hit in the night (mafia have been killing 2 people n1 and n2, and then they only kill 1) -> vet comes forward and claims to have been hit -> town claims to him -> profit Now, I would only say N1 and N2 on this scenario, because mafia can choose to manipulate that. I would want to use this d3 at the earliest (if we haven't caught scum yet)... It's all just reactionary. Just because you make two barracks, doesn't mean you have to mass marines. You can end up floating one for scouting, or even make medics to blind observers. The point of my plan is that it is just a basic way to play this setup correctly, as opposed to people lashing out against it because they got played in one particular game... Salem mafia, was it? Well, I wasn't in that game. I love people getting raised up about being outted in PMs. It's actually proper to withhold information. That's why you wait on a confirmation. Then, you PM them, so the mafia can't see what you're saying in the thread to use it against you. The above veteran scenario is actually bad. If you get a PM from the mod, as a doctor, saying you had a successful protection though.... bingo. If a cop rolechecks someone, and sees they are a mad hatter, then there is confirmation there are many ways to have confirmed people on d2, d3 We wait on them to claim We can do this while having scumhunting cells. As long as you DONT ROLECLAIM in your cells, I don't see a problem in it. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
On February 24 2011 15:31 LSB wrote: PMs are great for purposes other than trying to make some kind of ill fated town circle which is going to fail and loose the town the game. For example, in PM gryffindor just defended Iceman/annul. When annul flips red this will prove very useful information. Are you kidding? I would lynch either one of them. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
however, i would vote him BECAUSE of that. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
On February 24 2011 15:31 LSB wrote: PMs are great for purposes other than trying to make some kind of ill fated town circle which is going to fail and loose the town the game. For example, in PM gryffindor just defended Iceman/annul. When annul flips red this will prove very useful information. I could reference a particular game in which it lead to a lopsided town victory, and a game in which the town didn't create a circle whatsoever which was a convincing scum win. It's a case by case scenario. People don't have to believe in confirmation, but I know I will claim immediately when that time comes, except seriously this time. Now, if you all want to lynch me, as some LAL(lynch all liars), go right ahead. Lose your best tactician. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
Also, how is it that you can't correlate my idea with his cell idea? Just because we have cells scumhunting, doesn't mean we can't PM a confirmed on d2 or d3. I do not see how it is black vs white, when there is in fact a lot of room for gray area. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
Both address me I'm loving this Both of you want me to explain my confirmation idea, and Barundar, you will not be forced to claim or anything... How can mafia fake a PM received from a moderator to a doctor saying you protected successfully, or that they are such and such role... We can get confirmation very easily. Cubedin, We don't have to focus on creating one big cell all at once, we would want to only have 1 person knowing everything, actually. The person would likely be killed, unless there are multiple confirmations in the same night. We don't have to really do any of this, scumhunting is completely fine. Foolishness mentioned he would be fine voting Jackal in PM with me, and I can see the train of thought, but I would rather lynch someone through my proper sleuthery in finding tells that they have made, such as the associative tells between GMarshal and Annul that I found, which is enough for me to be happy with where my vote is. Couple that with the fact that both have had wishy-washy voting/pushing, and with the incrimination of icemac, and I'd be surprised if two out of three weren't scum. Foolishness, however, disagrees with me on this. His loss! | ||
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United States524 Posts
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gryffindor
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Jackal, your entrance into the game was your exit for me. I don't like being voted by a relative inactive, but I like it even less when said vote comes with an insult. Good riddance. | ||
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gryffindor
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1. 5. Jackal58 2. 17. astroorion 3. 1. Coagulation Cell 2, Cell leader: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler + 4. 19. Gofarman 5. 21. kitaman27 6. 12. icemac Cell 3, Cell leader: IDC, they're all competant+ Show Spoiler + 7. 6. Kenpachi 8. 2. LSB 9. 26. LunarDestiny Cell 4, Cell leader: Barundar+ Show Spoiler + 10. 30. LastArgument 11. 3. Barundar 12. 9. gryffindor Cell 5, Cell leader: deconduo+ Show Spoiler + 13. 16. ohN 14. 28. deconduo 15. 8. annul Cell 6, Cell leader: Foolishness+ Show Spoiler + 16. 18. Foolishness 17. 27. Ser Aspi 18. 22. kevconsim Cell 7, Cell leader: Seraph/Mr. Wiggles+ Show Spoiler + 19. 11. Beneather 20. 15. seRapH 21. 24. Mr. Wiggles Cell 8, Cell leader: OriginalName+ Show Spoiler + 22. 14. JBright 23. 23. ICanFlyLow 24. 13. OriginalName Cell 9, Cell leader: Chaoser+ Show Spoiler + 25. 7. darmousseh 26. 25. chaoser 27. 20. Conversion MaxwellE Cell 10, Cell leader: Cubedin+ Show Spoiler + 28. 4. CubEdIn 29. 29. why 30. 10. GMarshal Now, the "leader" to me is someone who needs to go out of their way to actually collaborate with the other people in their group. If you don't want to use my list of cells, and want to use GMarshal's, whatever. I have a good list I just made right here ready for us to use. Basically, the leaders need to go out of their way to make this work. I am fully confident in these peoples abilities to report what is going on within your cell, and to hold people accountable. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
Also, if I'm "most certain"ly scum, and you're the "most certain" about me, how come I'm 2nd on your list? Seems like a contradiction. I don't really care that you're voting for me, because I like that you're taking a definitive stance, as opposed to mulling over something halfheartedly - I was against the cells at first, too, when they I was concerned that they would encourage claiming The thing is, people will claim over time eventually anyways. It doesn't even matter how we go about this. People are either going to PM, or they're not. Noone can make you participate in your cell, but considering your latest posts, perhaps you should take the initiative and PM coagulation. I doubt you will, but it would be a good move for you being pro-town. The other member of the cell that I list randomized you into would be astroorion. I seriously considered your cell to be the weakest until you posted, and I am quite pleased that you seem competant, relatively speaking. I'm sad you suspect me, but whatever. I'll grow on ya. If Coagulation doesn't step up to the plate in your cell, you need to, because astroorion isn't going to (check the top of this page) | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
I guess that goes undetected. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
you are reaking of town right now | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
i don't feel like i have shit to explain, either, deconduo you want me to post that PM from you about your scummy idea? I didn't think so I could make a GREAT case on you right now, a very convincing one, but I'm not convinced yet myself. Call me a VI again, though, and that will change. I apologize if you feel like I have hurt the integrity of your game, RoL, and I would replace out if you so desire. | ||
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