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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 15:23 GMT
#951
Epic post dude....I'mma put my vote on him cause there's no fucking way mafia would spend that much time crafting a post like that spanning 3 parts...

Vote: LSB
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 15:29 GMT
#952
if it's btw you and him...I highly doubt you are mafia in my eyes because of that post...jesus...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 18:42 GMT
#980
On February 28 2011 03:33 kevconsim wrote:
life support?


Think he's talk about you kev.

Also, LSB, shame on you. Your whole defense has been lynch him first! he's mafia! I'm not! when he flips red you'll see how I'm green. You claim all he's doing is WIFOM but you're doing the same by linking to old games. We can't trust "play style" analysis 100% since smart players will obviously change it up. Or not change it up. That's WIFOM too. Respond to his individual points please, until you do my vote will be on you. He was willing to write a fucking essay; if he was mafia trying that hard, and you're really town, you would try just as hard. So far you're not and so you scumminess is getting higher for me.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#985
Show nested quote +
I'm not! when he flips red you'll see how I'm green. You claim all he's doing is WIFOM but you're doing the same by linking to old games. We can't trust "play style" analysis 100% since smart players will obviously change it up. Or not change it up. That's WIFOM too.


So you agree with my response that his analysis is based on WIFOM.


Yes, I think some of it is WIFOM. But the fact that he wrote a 3 post essay + the fact that you won't even consider the idea that maybe he is town makes me wary of you.

Either way, the same can be said for you. If you get lynched, and you flip green, he will be suspect.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#987
EBWOP: Your defense back at him have been weak, WIFOM, and frankly, lacking. Pretty much the same qualities that you are saying his post against you has in them.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 19:33 GMT
#994
On February 28 2011 04:21 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 04:15 chaoser wrote:
I'm not! when he flips red you'll see how I'm green. You claim all he's doing is WIFOM but you're doing the same by linking to old games. We can't trust "play style" analysis 100% since smart players will obviously change it up. Or not change it up. That's WIFOM too.


So you agree with my response that his analysis is based on WIFOM.


Yes, I think some of it is WIFOM. But the fact that he wrote a 3 post essay + the fact that you won't even consider the idea that maybe he is town makes me wary of you.

Either way, the same can be said for you. If you get lynched, and you flip green, he will be suspect.

He's town because he wrote a lot?


No, i think he's MORE town than you because after his essay your responses have been lacking. My vote right after his case against you was:

1) me thinking jesus...no way mafia did this (illogical yes, but still, i'm sure the idea that "this isn't mafia-like" crossed many people's minds.)

2) to pressure you to see how you would respond. You didn't respond well.

To be truthful, the idea that both of you were green crossed my mind many times but after your recent responses...I dunno...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#1000
On February 28 2011 04:38 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 04:33 chaoser wrote:
On February 28 2011 04:21 LSB wrote:
On February 28 2011 04:15 chaoser wrote:
I'm not! when he flips red you'll see how I'm green. You claim all he's doing is WIFOM but you're doing the same by linking to old games. We can't trust "play style" analysis 100% since smart players will obviously change it up. Or not change it up. That's WIFOM too.


So you agree with my response that his analysis is based on WIFOM.


Yes, I think some of it is WIFOM. But the fact that he wrote a 3 post essay + the fact that you won't even consider the idea that maybe he is town makes me wary of you.

Either way, the same can be said for you. If you get lynched, and you flip green, he will be suspect.

He's town because he wrote a lot?


No, i think he's MORE town than you because after his essay your responses have been lacking. My vote right after his case against you was:

1) me thinking jesus...no way mafia did this (illogical yes, but still, i'm sure the idea that "this isn't mafia-like" crossed many people's minds.)

2) to pressure you to see how you would respond. You didn't respond well.

To be truthful, the idea that both of you were green crossed my mind many times but after your recent responses...I dunno...

Seriously, I'm really not liking what you are trying to pass as arguments.

First you claim that Mafia work a lot less than town, and that Barundar posted a bunch of long posts makes him green.
This is a silly argument that doesn't merit my response.

Secondly, you claim that I'm not responding to Barundar well, without actually answering any of my responses. In case you haven't noticed, I still have not seen a critisim of my responses from you. You are making a case out of nothing.

Thirdly you take a whishy washy position that looks good regardless of who gets lynched.

This isn't a direct FOS, but I don't believe your intentions are so pure.


I agree it's a silly argument (even said it was "illogical" in my post). But it's also a natural one, at least for me. I've never seen mafia make the kind of intense posts that he did. I don't think it's a scum thing to do. I never said work harder, I'm saying mafia doesn't need to do that kind of posting. To me it seems more like town trying realllyyy hard to figure something out. Think about it from an outside perspective and not from your perspective.

Your attack is all WIFORM: You are saying "hey what if LSB was scum", well he would play that way. Only problem is it is a complete misrepresentation, my scum play and my town play are completely different, here is a link for how Incog describes it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190444&currentpage=21#415



On February 28 2011 02:04 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 19:04 Barundar wrote:
Part 2: LSB’s bad logic and scumslips

Hey guys, lets just use our lynch on Barundar, once he flips red, I'll be cleared.

Ezpz.

In addition, this is the same problem with Barundar's push against Jackal58,

+ Show Spoiler +
Oops, 'scumslip' I said Barundar was read



On February 28 2011 02:10 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 02:08 deconduo wrote:
@LSB
Thats not much of a defense.

Go lynch Barundar and once he flips red that will be my defense.


Those three responses are what made me suspicious. You say his case against you is WIFOM and then you use a WIFOM argument to argue back. Then you just say vote him guys, when he flips red, i'll be proven green.

To me your case against his case against you is

1) His case is a lot of fluff that's WIFOM
2) One of the reasons he thinks I'm mafia is cause he doesn't think Foolishness is
3) He will flip red and I will be exonerated

Is that correct?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 20:09 GMT
#1008
On February 28 2011 04:59 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, at this point I dont believe either Barundar or LSB are town, Barundar because of his analysis and convictions, LSB because he seems to be playing pro-town, knowing LSB's general scum style however its not impossible for him to be scum but if he is he is almost guaranteed to push a scummy plan or lynch sooner rather than later, why take a huge gamble on lynching a great player who seems pro-town when he is likely to screw up as scum and get lynched later?


##unvote

Hmm...I need some more time to think...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 22:07 GMT
#1037
He ask lied about his PMs with deconduo
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#1038
also lied*
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 22:45 GMT
#1043
AHHHHHHHHHHH GAH!

fuck it, i'm going to vote for the guy i've been suspicious of instead of this LSB/Barundar bullcrap

vote: icemac
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 03:26 GMT
#1143
damnit...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#1145
On February 28 2011 12:27 Beneather wrote:
Voting for yourself doesn't prove he's innocent, people vote for themselves when they don't know who to vote for. It's just a way to keep them from being modkilled. I have been inactive because of stupid english assignments. I'll be more active tomorrow on the day. :D


Coming out right after day...classy
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 04:01 GMT
#1151
On February 28 2011 12:56 Foolishness wrote:
Oh whoops I miscounted one, somehow I thought it would have been tied.

Points still stand though. You can't have a bandwagon in 30 minutes. Even me trying to bandwagon in 5 hours is a huge stretch.


Not if you're pandain
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 16:38 GMT
#1192
On March 01 2011 00:38 gryffindor wrote:
Also, I knew the list I made was completely randomized, whereas GMarshal had admitted to tweaking his.

Is it sad that I am almost as afraid, if not moreso, of dying to a terrible vigilante shot?
@Vig, if you are going to hit me, claim in thread beforehand so you can be clear and lead a lynch tomorrow.


Can I just say that that's a horrible scumslip? Really? telling a VIGI to claim in thread??? Role reversal will dick him over...blue fishing at its finest
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#1195
Role reversal fucks him over. It's not about protection, he'll shoot himself. There is no clearing to be had, just a dead blue.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#1196
On March 01 2011 01:43 gryffindor wrote:
ack, i forgot about that extra mechanic
claim in PM to me


LOL so apparently you are the most trusted person for this plan to go forward with? Yeah ok.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 28 2011 17:28 GMT
#1198
On March 01 2011 01:43 gryffindor wrote:
ack, i forgot about that extra mechanic
claim in PM to me


Also, how does that make sense? Vigi claims to you in PM. Shoots you, you die, no one knows who vigi is cause you're dead. I call bullshit on this plan. FoS to the fucking highest.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 01 2011 03:00 GMT
#1217
On March 01 2011 11:57 LSB wrote:
I was role blocked last night.


Ok, that means detectives and cops should have clean checks for today. They could only do one 0.5 KP power.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 01 2011 03:06 GMT
#1225
On March 01 2011 12:01 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 11:57 LSB wrote:
I was role blocked last night.


This is interesting, it hints at mafia having 3 kp or else they cannot afford to rb anyone.

Also do any vigi's claim to have shot last night? because if you did then we know that mafia spent a whole KP doing something else, if no-one claims the vigi hit then we have to work on the assumption that there wasn't one. Also gryff you seemed pretty convinced you were going to die...


Didn't we come to the conclusion that mafia had 6 members in the beginning? Annul died, leaving 3 KP. They used .5KP for powers and 2.5KP for three kills. I asked RoL about the KP usage and he said the rounding up system was the one he was using.

Cops and detectives, today's results should be a bit more reliable than yesterday's but still take it with a grain of salt.
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