EPTmaybe he is just another town who is also bad and came up with a bad idea, but ;\
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maybe he is just another town who is also bad and came up with a bad idea, but ;\ | ||
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i dont know why this wagon is rolling on iceman we need to be voting for people that actually deserve it, such as people who bring in horrible ideas, like GM. obviously when there is 1 minute left if the vote is still close i will have to revote to iceman, but i would really much rather this wagon be GM/chaos or, if it HAS to be me (why is this always the case regardless of my role?), then me and GM. remember LSB just has a grudge against me. go read 35. ive called GM out for a bad idea and actually gave reasons, and i'm red... where 5 people have wagoned onto iceman for a much worse reason and face no heat? think about it | ||
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what, specifically, have i done? i called out a bad idea and voted based on it. what else? | ||
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"Reasoning: Bandwagonning, and LSB believing he is scum. I also like the wagon more, excluding astroorion who I feel will probably come off of it due to being Annul's scumbuddy." 1, bandwagoning. by whom? by you, you mean? because i am entirely certain that i began the wagons on chaoser and GM. called them out ridic early in the game and continued to question the cells idea logic all game. so... ? 2. this is a bad reason. LSB has a grudge against me (go read survivor too, occurring right now, to see that his entire game plan in every game is just to kill me). why are you so sure HE isnt red? why do you trust his belief so much? its a very curious reason. 3. you like the wagon more. okay, i guess i cannot argue with that per se, since the iceman wagon is dumb too -- though i know i am town, so they're [probably] both bad 4. i do not understand the astorian comment -- a. i am not red; b. what has he done to make you think that if i were red, he is also red? cuz i must be missing something there. | ||
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On February 25 2011 05:06 gryffindor wrote: Note the bolded that is a direct lie -> open voting thread -> see the first vote on GMarshal, in the VERY first vote, from yours truly You are lying. read the actual game thread, not the voting thread. note my first vote was on chaoser, and note at the same time, i have been calling out GM ALL GAME. i realized GM was better than chaoser, so i switched. at no point did i "wagon" up on him. i have always been the voice against him. if anything, YOU have wagoned onto the annul wagon. | ||
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3: don't use ad hominems; is my CLAIM false? who cares if i have a "psych degree" - it makes sense. nobody in TL mafia has a psych degree and there are psych analyses done all the time 4: i have the absolute authority to make value judgments that inform my vote. people asked why, so i told them. it still is a bad idea. 5: you assume i refer to proper analysis. maybe just a "i think D is scum because (reason why)" -- it doesnt need to be PBPA or anything detailed for B to influence A and tell them to stfu. 6: well, you are bad, then. 7: yes, the idea is still bad. so basically you think i am red for railing against an idea that inherently harms the town? cool ok | ||
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this is why TL towns are inactive; there is an institutionalized disincentive to actually arguing. | ||
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what do you want me to say? i think the die is cast, and either way its a bad outcome. town won't listen to me. | ||
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On February 25 2011 09:17 Coagulation wrote: role claim annul obviously not if i flip its irrelevant, if i dont then claiming is retarded | ||
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i can't really say anything since it will just be 'OMFG ANNUL IS SO AGGRESSIVE' if i do anything more, so i'll just stay AFK until we see the final vote. | ||
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mafia is not a short-term game. it's a long-term game. just because i MIGHT be dead today doesn't mean i need to give up my entire hand. as it is i still think i have a chance, since people are jumping off my wagon. the problem is they are creating other, split wagons in the process... but with 90 minutes to go, i figure i should keep this up since it is working. if you want to ask me specific questions i can answer them for you, but basic "what do you think" is fruitless, since ive been answering that and somehow that got me an 11 vote wagon | ||
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i don't like iceman as a lynch, and to be honest i would really rather it be GM (even still). but that won't happen, and i need to save my ass. there seems to be a wiggles and a gryffindor wagon forming, and of these, i'll go with what i think is most likely to roll instead of me. ##unvote ##vote gryffindor | ||
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that said, i do not feel myself being purposefully aggressive this game, and in fact i figured i wasnt being as hardcore as i usually am. but who knows, maybe it comes off that way 2. i was "easy to read" in 35 because i attacked LSB day 1 -- as a red -- with logic that LSB thought was crap because he knew he was town and i knew he was town. but i managed to convince everyone about it. i write pages and pages of stuff because A. i figured i could get him dead and B. it gave everyone else on my team cover. i knew i had to remove experience so my team could coast to victory on the back of the inactivity and inexperience remaining in the game. this was calculated and intentional. i still believe LSB gave me a good door to attack him through, even as he may disagree. 35 has nothing to do with 37. GM came up with what i still think was a crap idea, even if some people may like it, so i said such. 3. yeah my posts are related to GM and/or defending myself. it's day 1, these are the only topics at hand. when you get 11 votes of course you will be spending a disproportionate amount of time defending. | ||
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i cant exactly give you my reason due to an edict imposed onto me by ROL (i offer myself to lightning if i am lying about this). but part of it is "between wiggles and gryffindor, i like gryffindor more." i haven't done any deep analysis on either of them really, i am only voting to save my ass. but others seem to have done so, so perhaps go with them? | ||
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