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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 21 2011 20:30 GMT
#195
On February 22 2011 05:28 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 22 2011 05:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This thread is getting so spamtastic I love it <3. What is our escape strategy if a mod comes in? Half the players and the hosts getting banned would sure crimp my style. Should we work on our excuses?
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Oh no Mr. Modficcer I had no idea I was spamming

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Sorry my post counter needs to be fixed I didn't realize I was double posting

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I thought this was a no moderation zone


I'm sorry Mr.Modficcer, that manipulative Meapak_Ziphh tricked me into doing it!


He's just a bad influence on all of us!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#202
Why annul, why?!?!!?!?!?!? Protip: Don't click on spoilers.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 21 2011 22:04 GMT
#206
On February 22 2011 06:53 Conversion wrote:
hey I'm a new player

be nice to me!!


Vote to lynch me, or I will vote Kitaman
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 21 2011 23:50 GMT
#216
On February 22 2011 08:29 Coagulation wrote:
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On February 22 2011 07:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On February 22 2011 06:53 Conversion wrote:
hey I'm a new player

be nice to me!!


Vote to lynch me, or I will vote Kitaman


LYNCH TO ME VOTE OR MRWIGGLES I WILL.


VOTE TO LYNCH YOURSELF OR I WILL LYNCH COAG
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#224
No, the mods know that if we have this thread to spam we won't spread to the rest of TL :p

I also vote start early, it looks like a lot of people from my last games are banlisted O.o
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 22 2011 05:04 GMT
#231
It's a secret
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 22 2011 05:08 GMT
#235
First you must solve a series of Vigenere ciphers. jgdnenkgrkmnrhdcmknmlntojtcminkmfcmknncjndrc crjnrcjnrcdjnrcsnkjkthvivntmiisaliafpibianfdmua

:p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 22 2011 06:31 GMT
#241
On February 22 2011 14:14 Foolishness wrote:
Can you guys seriously stop mucking up the thread? Makes it hard to analyze people when you have to filter through a bunch of pregame posts. Not to mention we'll hit that 50 page mark where we can't "all" see the thread. To add to that, the increase in posts makes me think people have joined and the game is about to start and/or already started.

And yes I have debated the fact that me posting this is going to make you spam more, because your ego on the internet refuses to let someone else dictate what you shouldn't be doing, but honestly it's annoying and childish...there's a whole forum called "general" where to whole object is to spam away nonsense while pretending to mimic a thoughtful conversation. I have mulled over the thought of not playing because I feel that this is a prelude of what to expect in game, and I would like to be the optimist and think that we are all above that level

Let's save the posting for when the game starts shall we? Not to mention when the game starts, if your posting frequency does not accurately reflect what happened pregame, you can bet your ass I'm going to be posting loads of analysis on why we should lynch you (yes, I'm even making empty threats now).


I'm sorry...

Do you forgive me?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#260
When do roles normally go out? Also, when does day/night end?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 00:31 GMT
#269
Well I knew it was 24h/48h night/day, I just wasn't sure where he stated the cycle time, but it sounds like it's 10 EST. It doesn't say in the OP.

Currently the deadline is time, but that is subject to change.


So my question was, what time?

:p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 03:29 GMT
#282
/confirm

What shall be the topics of discussion for Day 1?

What to do with inactives?
What not to do in PM?

Let's start talking about something.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 04:33 GMT
#340
Also, I'm just going to point this out, the number of GFs is limited. There is no way there would be 6 GFs, as that would mean 6 mafia KP, which seems a bit ridiculous. The GF is worth 1 KP it says in the OP, so if you assume a set-up of 3 KP for mafia, that means 3 GFs max, 1KP each.

Speculation:
If a grunt is worth say, .5 kp, so not the same as a GF, and fits in line with power costs, possible set-ups become something like:

3GF, 3 mafia total (3kp)
2GF 2grunts, 4 mafia total (3kp)
1GF 4grunts, 5 mafia total (3kp)

I think the last two are more likely, but we should be able to tell more accurately after the first night kills and then after RB claims are in.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 07:17 GMT
#401
On February 23 2011 16:11 gryffindor wrote:
initial reads:

people to keep alive:
gryffindor
foolishness
coagulation
kenpachi
ser aspi

leaning town:
lunardestiny
LastArgument (you're thinking, WUT?, but i'll explain if questioned)
MrWiggles

leaning scum:
GMarshal
The guy voting annul


Lastargument because he is really pushing you, and asking for you to explain yourself, right?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 07:48 GMT
#408
I think he's thinking of Kavdragon, Fearless Leader of Mafia XXXVI?
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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#413
On February 23 2011 16:58 Coagulation wrote:
this early in the game.. and with this level of pressure... mafia tend to wait and jump on town formed bandwagons.. i cant see mafia rising up and starting a bandwagon at this point.


Yeah, there's a lot of accusations flying around already that mafia can choose whichever to bandwagon. What I'd watch out for, is people who start to heavily push someone else's suspicion of a player, or who start to tunnel really hard.From my experience, this early in the game, that can indicate scum.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 08:29 GMT
#422
Going to bed now, some last thoughts

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On February 23 2011 17:12 gryffindor wrote:
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On February 23 2011 17:08 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On February 23 2011 16:58 Coagulation wrote:
this early in the game.. and with this level of pressure... mafia tend to wait and jump on town formed bandwagons.. i cant see mafia rising up and starting a bandwagon at this point.


Yeah, there's a lot of accusations flying around already that mafia can choose whichever to bandwagon. What I'd watch out for, is people who start to heavily push someone else's suspicion of a player, or who start to tunnel really hard.From my experience, this early in the game, that can indicate scum.

QFT

It is relative to who, though.
Certain players doing that would be null


Yes, there are some aggressive players, but even still, this shouldn't be enough to get them off the hook depending how they play it. I'm remembering my first game, XXXV, where annul tunneled really hard day 1 and ended up getting LSB lynched, he almost got away with it too, with people simply putting it down to tunnel vision and aggression. Turned out he was mafia and chosen GF.

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On February 23 2011 17:20 chaoser wrote:
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On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss


Can you explain why this is a bad idea gryff? Your previous posts on why it's bad (weird, can lead to role reversal) don't really cut it. Roles aren't being revealed and people don't have to follow the list. Isn't it just making this 30 man game into many team mini games? Also, would being in a group with a mafia help a townie or not? More interactions in a more private setting might mean more likely for mafia to fuck up


I think it depends on the strengths of the players involved. A problem is if you get circles dominated by one veteran, because it firstly defeats the purpose of the circle, and secondly gives scum a good outlet to manipulate town behind the scenes. I think it will only work if everyone in the circle is contributing, and also isn't afraid of being frank and honest.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#505
On February 24 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote:
Look at the difference between annul's posting early on in Mafia XXXV:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=14#272
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=16#315
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#335
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#340

Much longer, thought out posts.


The only problem with this logic is that he was mafia that game, and played very aggressively against LSB to get him lynched. So you can't use this as a scum tell, but it does tell us that annul is capable of making long thought out posts when he wants to, so if anything, we should pressure him to do so.

So annul, what's keeping you back from posting anything longer than two lines? You seem to have an opinion on some players, why not write anything substantial?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 24 2011 00:04 GMT
#508
On February 24 2011 08:48 deconduo wrote:
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On February 24 2011 08:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On February 24 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote:
Look at the difference between annul's posting early on in Mafia XXXV:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=14#272
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=16#315
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#335
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#340

Much longer, thought out posts.


The only problem with this logic is that he was mafia that game, and played very aggressively against LSB to get him lynched. So you can't use this as a scum tell, but it does tell us that annul is capable of making long thought out posts when he wants to, so if anything, we should pressure him to do so.

So annul, what's keeping you back from posting anything longer than two lines? You seem to have an opinion on some players, why not write anything substantial?


Oh, yeah. Forgot to check role >.<

Nevermind then.


No, it's still good, because it show us that when he's motivated he will take the time to go through the thread and analyze. That was how he was able to pick on LSB as someone he could make a fake analysis on. So this begs the question of why he hasn't been doing anything in this game. Is he trying to hide? Why? Or does he just not care, because that's not very good for town.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 24 2011 01:32 GMT
#528
On February 24 2011 10:24 gryffindor wrote:
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On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.

Annul is teamed with gmarshal. When mafia fos someone d1 and vote someone else they are teamed with their fos. On my phone, will catch up more later. This is a huge slip for d1 though, two scum caught possibly.


Quoting so it doesn't get buried. What do people think of this? I find it very interesting for sure. Would any more experienced player like to point out if this is a slip, or if gryf is misleading town?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 24 2011 23:03 GMT
#742
##Vote Annul

I'm not entirely convinced he is scum, and this vote may change before the deadline. As it is though, lynching annul will clear up the thread a bit and make it easier to find scum.

I honestly think between GMarshal and Gryf, one is probably scum. I'm suspicious of both right now, gryf for pushing bad ideas and being wishy-washy, and GMarshal for the timing of his analysis on annul.
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