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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 02:56 GMT
#1859
4 or so minutes!
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 02:58 GMT
#1864
fuck, I was dead wrong
I revoke PM privileges from myself for next game.

I am now going to go hit myself with the stupid stick
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:00 GMT
#1868
I still dont think "bait and switch" was a good plan.

Still, it got scum and I have a hard time arguing with results.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:05 GMT
#1872
by the way chaoser defended LD in PM, I think I posted it already but.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From chaoser:
what's with the flip flopping on the votes dude, I come back to everyone on LD...wtf. what happened to icemac vote?

Original Message From GMarshal:
I'm a really indecisive voter! I really don't think icemac is scum, if he is from now on I'll vote for whatever you do

anyway it was too late to deter the vote from ice anyway at this point we force LD to post more and can analyze the vote lists

Original Message From chaoser:
if he is i might start thinking you mafia...don't sheep after foolishness...he comes in and basically everyone goes, ok, ignore our day of talking, we'll follow you. i'mma channel anthoy weiner, representative from new york. VOTE IF YOU THINK HE'S MAFIA! DON'T VOTE IF YOU THINK HE'S NOT! DON'T SAY YOU'RE VOTING CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE SAID TO VOTE LIKE SO!

Original Message From GMarshal:
I made it pretty clear earlier that i did not think icemac was mafia, and him voting for himself pretty much convinces me of it, but LD voted for himself too to save icemac, at this point Im tempted to do like coag and jump on someone else entirely, but thats going to be a waste

chaoser
damn...looks like i was wrong =/
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:08 GMT
#1878
at this point I request a vigi please hit me, I dont want to wast a town lynch on me, I was wrong 3/3 lynches, proving that my scumhunting abilities are lacking to say the least.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:09 GMT
#1879
alternatively the mafia team could do me a favor here and make it quick and painless.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:13 GMT
#1882
yeah I know :'( after trusting chaoser and barundar too. Damn they got me good.

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#1883
whatever I'm off to play some starcraft, at least I don't suck horribly at that.

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 06 2011 06:56 GMT
#1924
So, since I'm still pissed at choaser flipping red and at LSB for his terrible play, and because I got four gated 5 games in a row right before being 6 pooled. I'm going to address why the "bait and switch plan" is absolutely awful, in the hopes that in the future other town players will refrain from emulating it.

1.) This isn't the main point but it is an issue. it revolved around false logic and any good townie is going to consider all the possible angles, it would have been much, much better if either someone who wasn't lsb claimed the vigi shot OR there weren't any holes that made lynching one not necessarily prove anything about the other, for example if jackal had claimed the vigi shot I may have well believed it without hesitation. Still before putting out such a risky plan it would have helped if you had considered the angles, specifically that lynching you 100% proved LA either way while the converse was not true.

2.)This is what pisses me the hell off about the plan. It involves lying, any plan that requires a townie to lie is bad by definition. Why? because from this point on no one is going to touch anything LSB says with a ten foot pole, because for all we know lsb is putting up some elaborate plot to catch scum and if our reactions dont match his preconceived notion of what an ideal townie would react like, well then, you are royally fucked. So grats LSB you confirmed yourself and got scum in exchange for making no one able to trust anything you say. I mean next time you say "a dt claimed to me and said RoL is scum" we wont know weather its actually true or some devious plot to see who jumps on the bandwagon vs who doubts your word vs who stands and dances a jig and for that reason people will try to avoid touching it or commenting on it, EVERYONE will be noncommittal about it, because if their reaction isn't what you expect well... then they must be scum, hang them. Lying is bad for town. I can't say it enough, yet some people seem to be unable to grasp it. I mean I had doubts when LSB claimed vigi and stuff but that was out of fear he was a scum lying, trying to confirm himself. Now whether I believe his alignment or not I cannot believe his words. there is a reason for LaL and its not only "scum tend to lie"

Was the plan clever? yes, yes it was, it gets applause from me for brilliant theory and decent execution. however I think you are going to find that it was overall detrimental to the town.

Have fun with your blue circle, remember that its just like the one in salem that screwed town over, except successful. I congratulate you guys on successfully braking everything this game was supposed to be about, not claiming, avoiding having one single strong leader, having people operating in small independent cells. Everything. I guess this is proof that no one learned anything from salem after all .

Also shout out to chaoser for awesome scum play. He certainly fooled me, and while you 'got' him with the bait and switch plan he got you by getting two townies to support him, ensuring you are going to waste at least one lynch, probably two.

I think this is going to be my last real contribution, I obviously suck at scumhunting and the town has the game well in hand with their wonderful circle of blues and confirmed townies.
/end rant
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 07 2011 02:59 GMT
#1960
good morning
##Vote GMarshal
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 08 2011 00:05 GMT
#2009
On March 08 2011 08:58 deconduo wrote:
I'm pretty sure gryffindor is town, JBright or LD are two people that people seem to have forgotten about somewhat after day 3. I know there are two votes for LD but there isn't any discussion about it really, just that 'he might be GF' While I'd be less suspicious of JBright over the suicide thing, doesn't mean he's cleared at all.

Well JBright is dead, you can feel free to try to kill him again if you please though

For now I'm moving my vote to LD, as from my PM history with chaoser he seemed upset when foolishness almost lynched him. Of course with my luck LD will be a vigi or cop or something.

##unovte
##Vote LunarDestiny
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 08 2011 00:41 GMT
#2018
well since coag PMed me such a convincing argument I may as well

##Unvote
##vote gryffindor


I'll just note for the postgame that the LSB, coag circle hasn't actually been confirmed, but the chances of LSB busing 3/5 or 3/6 of his teammates is rather slim, no?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 08 2011 02:57 GMT
#2031
well gryff I *was* going to defend you, but I realized that that would probably not be doing you a favor.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 08 2011 03:10 GMT
#2041
24 hours still remain, right?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 00:45 GMT
#2095
Well, gryff is looking like town to me, his reaction to "dying" was pretty townie, at least in my opinion, I think I'm going to vote for ohn, as lylo seems to be approaching and I don't want to bring someone who has almost no posts to their name with me. Also gryff's style may be a little odd compared to what I'm used to, but at its interesting, and at least he is thinking, which is something to be valued in a townie.

##unvote
##Vote: ohN
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 03:12 GMT
#2145
Sigh... can we stop with the stupid "I'm trolling you lololol" and the "well I'm not bothered" and the "well fuck you" stuff and actually make points if there are points to be made, or if not then perhaps put some kind of effort into scumhunting or something else that won't engender bad blood between people? I mean if you are really bored day[9] is on right about now
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 03:23 GMT
#2162
ARE WE DONE YET!?!?!?
if you two have not real points to bring up then for the love of god stop spamming
going back and forth saying "im town" "no you aren't" helps NO ONE.

If you want to do analysis is fine, but I'm tired of spam. stop.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 04:00 GMT
#2184
awesome...
*sigh* I guess I can't afford to sheep/be inactive. Time to lynch some scum!
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 04:14 GMT
#2195
I think modkills decided this game more than anything else, we lost, what 5-6 town to inactivity/modkills? We still have a chance at pulling through but we need to find the scum asap. I was really inactive after the chaoser fiasco, because I feel I'm just having an off game, but I'll make every effort to try to find scum tomorrow.

Never give up, never surrender!
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 04:16 GMT
#2196
On March 09 2011 13:14 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 13:12 Coagulation wrote:
Well at least mafia enjoyed that.

I think it does save us a lynch though.

It does shed some light on GMarshal's day 1 actions. Day 1 GMarshal was pushing pretty hard for the Gryff lynch, and shying away from Seraph and Annul.


I said in the thread that I thought gryff was town, albeit annoying, where did I "push" for a gryff lynch?
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