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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#10
/in

Maybe I'll figure this damn game out eventually.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#25
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_the_Jackal
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#31
Sweeeetnesssss
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 00:38 GMT
#39
NP man.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 03:44 GMT
#44
Naval. For the love of King and Country it's NAVAL!!!!!!!



Sorry.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 03:52 GMT
#48
And puzzles can come in a variety of ways. Anagrams? Or Math and Logic? They can also be situational. But I think once the type of puzzle is discerned we can probably apply that to all the day and night posts.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:03 GMT
#50
Thanks for editing the day post.
Nave.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:22 GMT
#58
Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear.
I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:25 GMT
#61
From Wiki:
The thunder god of the Mortal Kombat universe, also known as Lord Raiden, is a protector of Earthrealm. Raiden commands many supernatural abilities such as the ability to teleport, control over lightning, and flight.

A reference to the missing bodies?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:27 GMT
#62
EBWOP From CubEdIn Raiden
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:57 GMT
#73
Jonathan Swift? Gulliver's Travels? 18th century British Naval references?
Anybody up on their Lilliputians?

I'm going to bed. My head hurts.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 20:03 GMT
#89
Yep. I see points of the story in my wiki link. But I also can see points of the story in everybody's wiki link. Except Pandains. Haven't been able to make any connections to pandas.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 22:14 GMT
#93
On January 30 2011 06:46 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 30 2011 03:35 darmousseh wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:03 Node wrote:
While I agree that "disappeared in a giant burst of gravel" would seem to point towards Gaara, I don't think the story as a whole fits him that much. I don't know too much about the character, I'm just going by the Wikipedia article. Is there any plot in Naruto that mirrors the events in the day post at all?

On January 26 2011 08:50 LSB wrote:
Each day post will be about one mafia. It won't be obvious, but it will be pretty specific once you figure out what is happening.

One idea I have for a day post is a Sherlock Holmes story.
A typical Sherlock Holmes story gives you enough info that you figure out everything that is happening, and then Holmes explains what happens. What if I gave you a Sherlock Holmes story, but killed off Sherlock before he could explain what happened? There's all the information, and its up to you to figure out what happened.

EDIT: The clues will be much more specific than XXXVI. Once you figure it out what the day post is about, it will point to one person, but the problem is figuring it out.


This all seems to state that the story as a whole will point to a specific person, rather than there being a small reference slipped in somewhere. This makes me think that Carlos the Jackal is the best fit so far. I mean, it's a string of hostage situations caused by a terrorist organization. Does that sound like anybody else?


Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but

Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all.

If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion.

Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints.





This is a dumb defense. If LSB had never watched/seen Naruto he'd have nearly no way of knowing all of that. And you can just as easily say with any one that "sure the story fits my character in X way but not in Y way" because there are very rarely perfect clue situations. If Node got the impression that gravel was a fair connection to Gaara then that could very well be what LSB was thinking when he wrote the clue. I'm not saying it's you but this doesn't actually rebutt anything Node was saying. The fact that you were that defensive when he didn't accuse you (and actually said the story doesn't really fit you overall) makes me more wary than anything.

But on the other hand. LSB could've just read the wiki's. There's a reason why there are links of everyone as that is enough to come up with clues about the suspects and Gaara isn't the biggest suspect in my view (biggest is Carlos due to all his characteristics of a terrorist). So far I can only think between Gaara or Carlos whereas leaning more towards Carlos. Neither of them have all clues matching with their characters which makes it hard (whether it's LSB's attention or not) to figure out precisely how LSB thinks and what he means with some clues.

I read the link of Gulliver's travels but I have not really seen any indication or similarity in the wiki about the clues that have been given. I didn't read anything about murdering people or bodies disappearing. The only link you could think of is about the 18th century and that it's from the same time as Jonathan Swift. But the place and time shouldn't really be relevant about the suspect as LSB mentioned in his post. So for me Jonathan Swift isn't a suspect for today.

To be fair to LSB and Gmarshall his wiki page is Jonathan Swift not Gulliver's Travels. Gulliver would open a whole new can of worms but Swift not necessarily so. I don't know how far afield from each persons page LSB may have drawn clues from but I don't see much on Swift.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 23:43 GMT
#101
On January 30 2011 08:24 Pandain wrote:
Okay let's get this started. First off I like Wiggles clue analysis, I think it really is the best option that we have as far as pinning people from clues go. The link to gaara is pretty vaugue, and while possible, there are more connections to Jackal than Gaara.

Furthormore, on an analysis view point, Jackal sticks out to me very heavily. While he's been posting alot, he hasn't contributed anything besides a very weak clue analysis that really I don't even see how that fits to the missing bodies. Obviously there is a slight connection(flight +teleportion), but its very weak.

Furthormore, he's often just brought up stuff, but not sure at all. I'm not sure how to phrase this, but its like he's just offering it up and then not actually "saying anything." I hope you know what I mean.
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On January 29 2011 13:57 Jackal58 wrote:
Jonathan Swift? Gulliver's Travels? 18th century British Naval references?
Anybody up on their Lilliputians?

I'm going to bed. My head hurts.

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On January 29 2011 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear.
I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong.



This isn't a "your sure mafia", rather a FoS. Jackal, you said you found clues to everyone's profile, mind sharing that?

Actually there are 3 that really have no attachment unless you really stretch it.

1. chaoser Holden Caulfield - Catcher in the Rye doesn't set off anything
2. darmousseh Gaara - Gravel
3. CubEdIn Raiden - Teleportation - No bodies
4. GMarshal Jonathan Swift - Unless this includes Gulliver's Travels nothing but perhaps time period
5. shannn Q Omnipotent character that can do anything. Including everything in the day post
6. Node Dinosaur Comics Main Cast - Other than squashing log cabins not much
7. Jackal58 Ilich Ramírez Sánchez Comparing pirates to terrorists
8. DoctorHelvetica Thom_Yorke Eye Patch, Eraser, British
9. Mr. Wiggles Yossarian Bombardier, Missing peoples
10. Kenpachi Zaraki Kenpachi Captain, Eyepatch, Blood
11. Pandain Ling Ling Dead Panda. Not much.

Perhaps this is the "puzzle" part. 3 that aren't connected?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 01:59 GMT
#111
On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 14:15 GMT
#119
On January 30 2011 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 10:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.


A couple things wrong here:

A. Saying "I already discounted J. Swift" as though you are some sort of authority on who can or can't be related via clue. I said there was another tentative connection through that work which is a pretty famous one in actuality. In fact GMarshall even quotes "A Modest Proposal" in his profile.

B. You assume "pirates" is the important aspect of the story. There are always red herrings. Very rarely (if ever) will anyones chosen profile fit all aspects without one being contradictory. Otherwise the game is too easy.

C. The Chainsaw Defense is defending yourself by attacking someone else (typically your accuser). Basically you have to find someone that fits the story better than you do.

I was responding to your perceived implication of my apparent attempt to connect Jonathan Swift to the clues.If you wish to include A Modest Proposal in the list of things a clue could point to feel free. If that's how you guts are doing clue analysis this game is going to be a slam dunk for red.

I'm disappointed. I thought the chainsaw defense was going to be something much more exciting.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 14:16 GMT
#120
BBWOP - Guys not guts.

##vote: darmousseh
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 22:47 GMT
#124
On January 31 2011 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 30 2011 10:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.


A couple things wrong here:

A. Saying "I already discounted J. Swift" as though you are some sort of authority on who can or can't be related via clue. I said there was another tentative connection through that work which is a pretty famous one in actuality. In fact GMarshall even quotes "A Modest Proposal" in his profile.

B. You assume "pirates" is the important aspect of the story. There are always red herrings. Very rarely (if ever) will anyones chosen profile fit all aspects without one being contradictory. Otherwise the game is too easy.

C. The Chainsaw Defense is defending yourself by attacking someone else (typically your accuser). Basically you have to find someone that fits the story better than you do.

I was responding to your perceived implication of my apparent attempt to connect Jonathan Swift to the clues.If you wish to include A Modest Proposal in the list of things a clue could point to feel free. If that's how you guts are doing clue analysis this game is going to be a slam dunk for red.

I'm disappointed. I thought the chainsaw defense was going to be something much more exciting.


i don't understand your response

so we should utilize only your connection of J Swift. and not consider any others? if anything its more likely he'll connect AMP than gullivers travels since that work is quoted in gmarshall's profile. it would be stupid not to consider it

Goddamit I HAVE MADE NO CONNECTION TO SWIFT!!!!!!
Stop putting words in my mouth.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#126
On January 31 2011 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 30 2011 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 30 2011 10:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.


A couple things wrong here:

A. Saying "I already discounted J. Swift" as though you are some sort of authority on who can or can't be related via clue. I said there was another tentative connection through that work which is a pretty famous one in actuality. In fact GMarshall even quotes "A Modest Proposal" in his profile.

B. You assume "pirates" is the important aspect of the story. There are always red herrings. Very rarely (if ever) will anyones chosen profile fit all aspects without one being contradictory. Otherwise the game is too easy.

C. The Chainsaw Defense is defending yourself by attacking someone else (typically your accuser). Basically you have to find someone that fits the story better than you do.

I was responding to your perceived implication of my apparent attempt to connect Jonathan Swift to the clues.If you wish to include A Modest Proposal in the list of things a clue could point to feel free. If that's how you guts are doing clue analysis this game is going to be a slam dunk for red.

I'm disappointed. I thought the chainsaw defense was going to be something much more exciting.


i don't understand your response

so we should utilize only your connection of J Swift. and not consider any others? if anything its more likely he'll connect AMP than gullivers travels since that work is quoted in gmarshall's profile. it would be stupid not to consider it

Goddamit I HAVE MADE NO CONNECTION TO SWIFT!!!!!!
Stop putting words in my mouth.


no

Show nested quote +
4. GMarshal Jonathan Swift - Unless this includes Gulliver's Travels nothing but perhaps time period


I was just saying there was something else possible besides Gulliver's Travels reference and that A Modest Proposal may be more likely to be referenced. That's all. I'm not insinuating you accused GMarshall. I'm just expanding on what you said.

My apologies then.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2011 01:57 GMT
#129
On January 31 2011 10:54 darmousseh wrote:
5 mins til voting ends.... where is everyone?

Collecting rope.
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