Mini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles - Page 4

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darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 08 2011 03:11 GMT

#518

We don't get another set of clues?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 08 2011 04:13 GMT

#524

I think I solved the day 2 puzzle. Will be posting it in a few minutes.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 08 2011 04:51 GMT

#529

On February 08 2011 13:21 shannn wrote:
I thought darmousseh was the one who came up with the plan and with the people. I remember darmousseh making a post about it that he suggested the plan to drH which is suspicious now that he says drH was the one suggesting Node should be the volunteer.

And I've said it before. If we got townie out of it then it's still going to be a guess. Post behavior can help us but we don't have much on those 2 in the first place.

Node didn't do anything whereas darmousseh did a lot in day 3.
It does say something about Node just being quiet but something scummy?

We people are forgetting that there are 2 mafia left. The 2nd mafia will help the other mafia in order to get a mafia win right here. We need to tread carefully how we approach this. We know darmousseh or node is mafia and the other one must be helping them just to push for the wrong vote.

Kenpachi and Gmarshall being like sheeps should think for themselves rather than listening to others. You 2 are the perfect people to bait for mafia right now.

I can't imagine Node being mafia but darmousseh just PM'ed me accusing that Node and I was mafia that both of us are convincing others to vote against darmousseh but like I said before. Node hasn't said anything and I know I'm town. What would the reason darmousseh pming me have if he were mafia? Most logical would be that he's trying to save town which would make me think about it but it may as well be a last ditch effort to bring me off my path to finding mafia.

Shann, that was the most brilliant post ever, but I think I just figured it out.

So I promised clues and here they are.

Suspect Q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_at_Farpoint

Q threatens to destroy humanity for its crimes.
Using his magical powers he forces picard and the others to pass a test.
Twice he freezes people to show his power, once at a random lieutenant, then again he freezes lieutenant yar.
Eventually picard and the others discover the secret of farpoint station which is the two trapped aliens.

Clue #1 threatens to destroy humanity
Clue #2 two trapped aliens, or a reference to the fact that Q froze exactly 2 people.(the aliens are blue which is what they look like in the show too. Also one lego guy has a suit which looks similar to the one in the episode.
Clue #3 Q's freezing ability
Clue #4 Q's magical ability.

Here are some clips from the show
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Q threatens to destroy humanity.

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Freezing lieutenant Yar.

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The guy with the suit that looks like the one in the lego scene.

The final thing is that the heart of darkness is a reference to the fact that Q judged that humanity was dangerous
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But you can't deny Captain, that
you're still a dangerous, savage
child-race.

PICARD
Most certainly I deny it. I agree
that we still were when ...
(indicating)
... humans wore costumes like that
four hundred years ago...

"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
At which time you slaughtered
millions in silly arguments about
how to divide the resources of
your little world. And four
hundred years before that you were
murdering each other in quarrels
over tribal god-images. And since
there have been no indications
that humans will ever change
.....

Which is almost the entire premise of the book heart of darkness.

My new plan then is this, vote shann and town wins

##Unvote
##Vote: Shannn

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 08 2011 05:08 GMT

#534

Oh another thing too is if you look at the wikipedia page on Q in the overview, the very first line talks about his debut episode, which is encounter at farpoint.

In the jackal clues, LSB found a single event from the wikipedia and expanded. This is the same, LSB probably went to the page, found the first reference (which is the farpoint station episode) and then picked some stuff from it (Q's freezing ability, the throne room scene, Q's threatening to destroy humanity, his magical powers). Since he said he took the pictures himself, it leads me to believe the alien with the suit is intentional.

People had found references to Q earlier, but I think the kicker was remembering the freezing scene and then the snow scene clue makes sense and the fact that it seems to point to a very specific event (farpoint episode).

Also on the clues

#2 the lego scene is reminiscent of the judgement room in the episode.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 08 2011 16:54 GMT

#536

On February 08 2011 14:13 shannn wrote:
It is amazing that people are not focussing on the task at hand too. I won't say no to accuse someone but there are 2 people now which atleast 1 of them is mafia. Yet people are now diverting from the plan EVEN the creator. We've figured out the scenario's which is if the lynched is town which is true then the remaining people has atleast 1 mafia. But everyone ignores this. Analysing their post behavior is top priority yet not doing that. Especially with the 2 sheeps, town is surely going to lose when 2 mafia is voting against me.

Now that I think you are mafia from the day 2 clues, your volunteering to take node's spot make sense since the clues on you fit for day 2 and there are no clues to fit node yet. If you were in nodes position and got lynched instead of node, then we would have absolutely no clues to go on after that. Since you knew that a mafia would get lynched with my plan, you tried to do what you described earlier as "damage control" and sac yourself in order to ensure that node survives since we have no clues. Node would then probably take that opportunity to criticize DrH and try to get town to mislynch. The reason you did this was because you believed town would stick 100% with my original plan. When DrH started to propose lynching me instead, you used that opportunity to try to win the game, but now you are backed into a corner you didn't see, which is figuring out the clues and lynching you instead.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:09 GMT

#543

WTF. Dude, i think my clues pointing towards shannn were good. UGH!

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:12 GMT

#547

I seriously spent like an hour going through johnathan swift and gulliver's travels and the clues, but couldn't find the connection.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:14 GMT

#550

I think the day 2 clues were really weak

sorry LSB but that really misled me. Magic set = entertainment?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:16 GMT

#554

Random PM with DrH

Original Message From darmousseh:

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There is no connection between jonathan swift and heart of darkness. Do you understand that everything that has happened, that you have done, makes perfect sense if you are mafia?

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:23 GMT

#556

On February 09 2011 11:18 LSB wrote:

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Yeah. The thing was you had to figure out that the 4 pictures corresponded to the four parts of the story. Specifically pointing to one thing.

Sort of like Jackel, I picked on thing and built a theme around it

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When I thought about gulliver's travels I saw the lego reference, but I wouldn't describe his hate of the yahoo as xenophobic since yahoos are humans (metaphorically). At that point I gave up since I didn't see anything with music or magic.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 09 2011 02:31 GMT

#559

MVP post right here

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On January 31 2011 14:55 Node wrote:
So, seeing as we know that Jackal is red, here's some analysis of what he's done and what that implicates.

On January 29 2011 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear.
I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong.

Light defense of Pandain here.

On January 29 2011 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
From Wiki:

The thunder god of the Mortal Kombat universe, also known as Lord Raiden, is a protector of Earthrealm. Raiden commands many supernatural abilities such as the ability to teleport, control over lightning, and flight.

A reference to the missing bodies?

Puts some suspicion on Raiden / CubEdIn. As far as I can tell he's the only one to mention this character.

On January 30 2011 05:03 Jackal58 wrote:
Yep. I see points of the story in my wiki link. But I also can see points of the story in everybody's wiki link. Except Pandains. Haven't been able to make any connections to pandas.

Again, light defense of Pandain. But it's not like he lied here, we know that the post didn't apply to pandas at all.

On January 31 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 31 2011 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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On January 30 2011 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:

On January 30 2011 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On January 30 2011 10:59 Jackal58 wrote:

On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.

A couple things wrong here:

A. Saying "I already discounted J. Swift" as though you are some sort of authority on who can or can't be related via clue. I said there was another tentative connection through that work which is a pretty famous one in actuality. In fact GMarshall even quotes "A Modest Proposal" in his profile.

B. You assume "pirates" is the important aspect of the story. There are always red herrings. Very rarely (if ever) will anyones chosen profile fit all aspects without one being contradictory. Otherwise the game is too easy.

C. The Chainsaw Defense is defending yourself by attacking someone else (typically your accuser). Basically you have to find someone that fits the story better than you do.

I was responding to your perceived implication of my apparent attempt to connect Jonathan Swift to the clues.If you wish to include A Modest Proposal in the list of things a clue could point to feel free. If that's how you guts are doing clue analysis this game is going to be a slam dunk for red.

I'm disappointed. I thought the chainsaw defense was going to be something much more exciting.

i don't understand your response

so we should utilize only your connection of J Swift. and not consider any others? if anything its more likely he'll connect AMP than gullivers travels since that work is quoted in gmarshall's profile. it would be stupid not to consider it

Goddamit I HAVE MADE NO CONNECTION TO SWIFT!!!!!!
Stop putting words in my mouth.

He pretty vehemently denies having put suspicion on Swift / GMarshall.

In the end, he didn't really lead us anywhere, as pretty much anybody can analyze clues. But I'm a bit more suspicious of GMarshall now, as Jackal seemed incredibly determined to make sure that there was no link present between them. I'll also keep an eye out for clues related to Pandain, but there's definitely nothing concrete here.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

February 10 2011 01:00 GMT

#582

My first finished mafia game ever, I learned a lot.

1. cubedin reacting crazily doesn't mean he's mafia.
2. town are sheep
3. don't look too much into clues, i really thought i had it with the Q clues

4. town aligned players tend to talk a lot more than mafia.
5. Be very suspicious when there aren't very many reactions to a plan (like my plan to determine mafia with the puzzle).

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